Jeremy Bamber Forum
JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: mike tesko on December 21, 2017, 04:48:PM
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When I first came into contact with Jeremy in 1989, he told me that his greedy relatives had paved the way to make him into the killer, so that they could lay their hands on anything of real value in his parents and his grandmother's estate(s)!
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When I first came into contact with Jeremy in 1989, he told me that his greedy relatives had paved the way to make him into the killer, so that they could lay their hands on anything of real value in his parents and his grandmother's estate(s)!
Well, he was hardly going to tell you that he'd got rid of his family because he'd had a gut full of labouring on the farm to pay for Sheila's life-style and her boys' education, was he?
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Well, he was hardly going to tell you that he'd got rid of his family because he'd had a gut full of labouring on the farm to pay for Sheila's life-style and her boys' education, was he?
He didn't get rid of his family, as far as the cops were concerned Sheila killed the other's, and there is absolutely not a shred of evidence to prove that someone else did, or had!
I am convinced that she did shoot and kill the other four victims - there is no reliable evidence imaginary or otherwise, which suggests that she could not have killed any of the other four victims all by herself - if you can think something up let me know and I will consider it!
That's the problem with this case, seems like Jeremy has been made into the killer, on the say so of relatives and cops making things up about the SM being on the barrel of the rifle at the time Sheila was shot and killed, but it now looks almost certain that the SM was not fitted to the guns barrel at the time she was shot, or by the time Neville Bamber was shot! Scratch marks on aga surround faked for whatever reason, just so the prosecutions case could lead with the argument, that with the SM fitted on the end of the guns barrel, not only would the overall length have been too long for Sheila to shoot herself with the weapon so configured, but more significantly, she would not have been able to take the SM off the barrel of the gun after she was already dead, and take it all the way downstairs to conceal it in a gun cupboard, and then make her way back upstairs to lay down dead on the bedroom floor!
Of course she couldn't, and of course she didn't, she didn't shoot herself with any gun, and neither did Jeremy shoot her with any gun, SM attached or not, it's all bogus evidence, the sort of evidence manipulation which the prosecution, the police and it's greedy witnesses needed to introduce to stand any chance of getting Jeremy convicted of anything!
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He didn't get rid of his family, as far as the cops were concerned Sheila killed the other's, and there is absolutely not a shred of evidence to prove that someone else did, or had!
I am convinced that she did shoot and kill the other four victims - there is no reliable evidence imaginary or otherwise, which suggests that she could boot have killed any of the other four victims all by herself - if you can think something up let me know and I will consider it!
That's the problem with this case, seems like Jeremy has been made into the killer, on the say so of relatives and cops making things up about the SM being on the barrel of the rifle at the time Sheila was shot and killed, but it now looks almost certain that the SM was not fitted to the guns barrel at the time she was shot, or by the time Neville Bamber was shot! Scratch marks on aga surround faked for whatever reason, just so the prosecutions case could lead with the argument, that with the SM fitted on the end of the guns barrel, not only would the overall length have been too long for Shgeila to shoot herself with the weapon so configured, but more significantly, she would not have been able to take the SM off the barrel of the gun after she was already dead, and take it all the way downstairs to conceal it in a gun cupboard, and then make her way back upstairs to lay down dead on the bedroom floor!
Of course she couldn't, and of course she didn't, she didn't shoot herself with any gun, and neither did Jeremy shoot her with any gun, SM attached or not, it's all bogus evidence, the sort of evidence manipulation which the prosecution, the police and it's greedy witnesses needed to introduce to stand any chance of getting Jeremy convicted of anything!
Or that she did. Difference being, Jeremy had time to rid himself of incriminating evidence - Sheila didn't.
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The tell tale oily residue on the left hand side of Sheila Caffells nightdress and the small hole situated there caused by the ejected cartridge case, tells it's own story - so does the fact that she shot the other victims invariably on the right hand side of their bodies...
Sheila shot the other four victims, first lot of cops got that part of this tragedy spot on - it was Ainsley, Stan Jones, Ron Cook, the then PC Whiddon, and Bob Miller who tarnished the evidence, edited it, got rid of it, re-submiited it disguised it by giving items different exhibit references and lab' item numbers! They lied about when the anshuzt rifle got test fired with control ammunition, they switched bullets and spent cartridge cases, goddamit they didn't even make their own witness statements of their own free will, they had all that nonsense thought up for them, at meetings held between Essex Police and the dastardly DPP, by some other interfering bugger!
Jeremy's trial was a pig circus, the 2002 appeal more of the same!
By the time the victims bodies were disposed of by way of cremation and burial, Essex police had all the evidence they required or needed to establish Jeremy Bambers innocence! They had to create a new crime reference no. So that Jeremy Bamber could be prosecuted without the cops having to disclose all the evidence they had gathered during the first month of the first investigation - SC/688/85 (original), SC/786/85 (the conspiracy file)...
I know what I am talking about, that what the buggers did...
That's why items of evidential evidence have different exhibit references and lab' item numbers, they had different references for different investigations, same items..
Crooked police, CPS, Relatives, and blind members of the public who will believe anything old bill tells them, or prosecution say, or what they read in newspapers, or hear on the news...
Open your eyes, and try to recognise reality, the truth is out there...
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He didn't get rid of his family, as far as the cops were concerned Sheila killed the other's, and there is absolutely not a shred of evidence to prove that someone else did, or had!
I am convinced that she did shoot and kill the other four victims - there is no reliable evidence imaginary or otherwise, which suggests that she could boot have killed any of the other four victims all by herself - if you can think something up let me know and I will consider it!
That's the problem with this case, seems like Jeremy has been made into the killer, on the say so of relatives and cops making things up about the SM being on the barrel of the rifle at the time Sheila was shot and killed, but it now looks almost certain that the SM was not fitted to the guns barrel at the time she was shot, or by the time Neville Bamber was shot! Scratch marks on aga surround faked for whatever reason, just so the prosecutions case could lead with the argument, that with the SM fitted on the end of the guns barrel, not only would the overall length have been too long for Shgeila to shoot herself with the weapon so configured, but more significantly, she would not have been able to take the SM off the barrel of the gun after she was already dead, and take it all the way downstairs to conceal it in a gun cupboard, and then make her way back upstairs to lay down dead on the bedroom floor!
Of course she couldn't, and of course she didn't, she didn't shoot herself with any gun, and neither did Jeremy shoot her with any gun, SM attached or not, it's all bogus evidence, the sort of evidence manipulation which the prosecution, the police and it's greedy witnesses needed to introduce to stand any chance of getting Jeremy convicted of anything!
Mike why are you so adamant the police shot Sheila? Would anything ever persuade you to think otherwise?
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Or that she did. Difference being, Jeremy had time to rid himself of incriminating evidence - Sheila didn't.
The evidence is all there, Sheila handled and fired a gun that night, oily residue on the left hand side of her nightdress, and a small hole to boot caused by an ejecting spent cartridge case from the gun she was using - it's all there in the ballistic experts handwritten notes! Pity he did not think to make mention of these findings in his witness statements, or better still when he testified during the trial!
The gouges and blood smears on her right forearm were caused because she was using her right hand to steady the end of the guns barrel, making it the closest part of her body to the victims she was shooting at! She used the finger of her left hand to activate the trigger, you can still see how the left forefinger set in a cadaveric spasm at the time she died! Cops dropped a clanger by staging her death scene with the rifle on the right hand side of her body trying to make it look like she had shot herself using her right hand fingers to activate the trigger mechanism of the gun - but she was left handed, goddamit, she was left handed, and cops in their haste to fake her death scene did not know this!
But guess what?
Jeremy knew his sister was left handed, he knew she had the habit of holding the rifle on the wrong side of her body, that she used her right hand to steady the barrel end, and that her trigger finger was on her left hand - cops have dropped a right clanger, and they got their ballistic expert to help them cover it up, because Fletcher found the oily residue from the guns ejection port right there where it would be if she fired the rifle just like she fired it when Jeremy and David Boutflour taught Sheila how to handle and fire guns!!!
Sheila invariable shot at victims so that bullets would cause wounds on the rhs of their bodies!!!
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He didn't get rid of his family, as far as the cops were concerned Sheila killed the other's, and there is absolutely not a shred of evidence to prove that someone else did, or had!
I am convinced that she did shoot and kill the other four victims - there is no reliable evidence imaginary or otherwise, which suggests that she could boot have killed any of the other four victims all by herself - if you can think something up let me know and I will consider it!
That's the problem with this case, seems like Jeremy has been made into the killer, on the say so of relatives and cops making things up about the SM being on the barrel of the rifle at the time Sheila was shot and killed, but it now looks almost certain that the SM was not fitted to the guns barrel at the time she was shot, or by the time Neville Bamber was shot! Scratch marks on aga surround faked for whatever reason, just so the prosecutions case could lead with the argument, that with the SM fitted on the end of the guns barrel, not only would the overall length have been too long for Shgeila to shoot herself with the weapon so configured, but more significantly, she would not have been able to take the SM off the barrel of the gun after she was already dead, and take it all the way downstairs to conceal it in a gun cupboard, and then make her way back upstairs to lay down dead on the bedroom floor!
Of course she couldn't, and of course she didn't, she didn't shoot herself with any gun, and neither did Jeremy shoot her with any gun, SM attached or not, it's all bogus evidence, the sort of evidence manipulation which the prosecution, the police and it's greedy witnesses needed to introduce to stand any chance of getting Jeremy convicted of anything!
I'm equally convinced that she did NOT shoot anyone. "There is no reliable evidence, imagery or otherwise" which suggests that she did.
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Mike why are you so adamant the police shot Sheila? Would anything ever persuade you to think otherwise?
Aah, at long last, someone wants to know why I am saying that Sheila was shot twice by police in two different parts of the farmhouse, on occasions, either side of 8.10am, when according to the then believed facts two bodies downstairs, and three bodies upstairs (PS Adams was the Commander throughout this part of the operation! I can tell you that Sheila did not die, she was not dead when Adams headed that part of the firearm operation (5.00am to 8.10am)! No, Sheila died in a different part of the operation, after PS Adams left the scene, when PI Montgomery assumed Commandership!
I know exactly how they shot Sheila, and I know how it can be proved!
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Mike why are you so adamant the police shot Sheila? Would anything ever persuade you to think otherwise?
https://youtu.be/mmCART1vcCo
Have you not seen Mike's video ? It's been up 2 years & explains this.
You, Nugs, Lookout & Mike need to work together to get Bamber released in 2018.
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https://youtu.be/mmCART1vcCo
Have you not seen Mike's video ? It's been up 2 years & explains this.
You, Nugs, Lookout & Mike need to work together to get Bamber released in 2018.
I'm doing just that-------you ?
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I'm doing just that-------you ?
You, Nugs, David & Mike will be effective together.
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Aah, at long last, someone wants to know why I am saying that Sheila was shot twice by police in two different parts of the farmhouse, on occasions, either side of 8.10am, when according to the then believed facts two bodies downstairs, and three bodies upstairs (PS Adams was the Commander throughout this part of the operation! I can tell you that Sheila did not die, she was not dead when Adams headed that part of the firearm operation (5.00am to 8.10am)! No, Sheila died in a different part of the operation, after PS Adams left the scene, when PI Montgomery assumed Commandership!
I know exactly how they shot Sheila, and I know how it can be proved!
Sheila was not seen nor shot downstairs. PC Collins saw Nevill though the window and thought it was a woman. Thus it became reported as a dead female.
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Sheila was not seen nor shot downstairs. PC Collins saw Nevill though the window and thought it was a woman. Thus it became reported as a dead female.
REALLY? :o ::)
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I'm equally convinced that she did NOT shoot anyone. "There is no reliable evidence, imagery or otherwise" which suggests that she did.
Sorry, but on this occasion you are wrong - you need to find out why the prosecutions ballistic expert, and I will name him, Malcolm Fletcher, found oily residue from the rifles ejection port on the left hand side of Sheila Caffells nightdress, right where there had been caused a small hole, a small hole that was consistent with an ejecting spent cartridge case, being ejected from the rifle she had just fired, and damaging her nightdress in an area saturated by oily residue from the ejection port of the rifle! Why didn't one of your heroes (Fletcher) make mention of this residue in one of his witness statements? Why didn't your expert hero tell the court about this when he testified during the trial?
Sheila fired the gun awkwardly, she used her right hand to steady the barrel she was pointing at her victims, and she activated the trigger with the forefinger of her left hand - spent cartridges ejected against the left side of her nightdress because of the unnatural way she was known by at least two people to handle guns (David Boutflour and Jeremy Bamber), oily residue from the ejection port of the rifle were present, it's all there in Fletcher's handwritten notes, but missing from his witness statement, and his testimony! Now, please tell me, do you think that discovering the oily residue from the ejection port of the rifle on the lhs of Sheila's nightdress deserved at least a mention by the prosecutions expert?
Of course it did!
Why did the prosecution ballistic expert have to tell a blatant lie to the effect that he did not know when the anshuzt rifle had last been fired prior to him conducting the official test fire of the same, using a SM, and control ammunition from exhibit DRH42, which his statement says he conducted on the 20th and 25th September , and the 1st and 2nd October 1985? We all know he was test firing the same rifle, SM and control ammunition much earlier than that because it's in the buggers handwritten notes that he had, and that he did! He even dated, and signed these handwritten notes, so please try to enlighten me why he should keep all of this vital information out of his witness statements? Oh, I get it now, the bugger didn't even make his own witness statement did he? It's a composite version of what someone else thought up that which Fletcher might say?
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Sorry, but on this occasion you are wrong - you need to find out why the prosecutions ballistic expert, and I will name him, Malcolm Fletcher, found oily residue from the rifles ejection port on the left hand side of Sheila Caffells nightdress, right where there had been caused a small hole, a small hole that was consistent with an ejecting spent cartridge case, being ejected from the rifle she had just fired, and damaging her nightdress in an area saturated by oily residue from the ejection port of the rifle! Why didn't one of your heroes (Fletcher) make mention of this residue in one of his witness statements? Why didn't your expert hero tell the court about this when he testified during the trial?
Sheila fired the gun awkwardly, she used her right hand to steady the barrel she was pointing at her victims, and she activated the trigger with the forefinger of her left hand - spent cartridges ejected against the left side of her nightdress because of the unnatural way she was known by at least two people to handle guns (David Boutflour and Jeremy Bamber), oily residue from the ejection port of the rifle were present, it's all there in Fletcher's handwritten notes, but missing from his witness statement, and his testimony! Now, please tell me, do you think that discovering the oily residue from the ejection port of the rifle on the lhs of Sheila's nightdress deserved at least a mention by the prosecutions expert?
Of course it did!
Why did the prosecution ballistic expert have to tell a blatant lie to the effect that he did not know when the anshuzt rifle had last been fired prior to him conducting the official test fire of the same, using a SM, and control ammunition from exhibit DRH42, which his statement says he conducted on the 20th and 25th September , and the 1st and 2nd October 1985? We all know he was test firing the same rifle, SM and control ammunition much earlier than that because it's in the buggers handwritten notes that he had, and that he did! He even dated, and signed these handwritten notes, so please try to enlighten me why he should keep all of this vital information out of his witness statements? Oh, I get it now, the bugger didn't even make his own witness statement did he? It's a composite version of what someone else thought up that which Fletcher might say?
I don't believe so. I have the feeling that words are being used to show what you'd like us to believe they say, which is an opinion you're entitled to own, but not one which I share.
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I don't believe so. I have the feeling that words are being used to show what you'd like us to believe they say, which is an opinion you're entitled to own, but not one which I share.
Have you not read Malcom Fletchers handwritten notes?
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Sheila was not seen nor shot downstairs. PC Collins saw Nevill though the window and thought it was a woman. Thus it became reported as a dead female.
No, he didn't...
If what you are saying was true, then please explain to me that by reference to the 'live' contemporaneously police radio message logs, it's reported that upon entry to the kitchen, 'the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female was found'? If what you are implying had any truth at all to it, the body of one dead female found in the kitchen, would have been mentioned before any mention of a dead male! You know as well as I know that what I am saying is true! The messages timed at 7.35am, 7.37am, and 7.38am, would have made mention of the body of one dead female first and foremost before any mention whatsoever of a dead male! The fact of the matter is that it doesn't, it makes mention of the body of one dead male, before mention is made of a dead female! Sorry, but you are looking at this as though the cops made a mistake, but you are wrong, they found Neville's body first, then they reported Sheila's body both downstairs in the kitchen! As if to confirm that which I am being forced to explain what did take place in the kitchen, as being two bodies, not one, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, we learn that at 7.45am, a Civilian operator at police HQ control room contacted DS Davidson at his home address, requesting him to come on duty into the office because police were dealing with an incident at whf involving two bodies, a murder, and a suicide! Now, if there was only one body as you are implying by reference to PC Collins COLP account, then ask yourself how on earth could Neville Bambers death be described as a suicide, and a murder? We only have to fast forward in time to 8.10am, and a report that a further three bodies found upstairs, five dead in total!
The three bodies found upstairs could only be reference to the bodies of June and her two grandchildren! I work this out because with June Bamber shot 7 times, we can hardly put her death down as the suicide referred to at 7.45am...
Finally for now, there exists the officers report (ref' 1612) which deals with the shooting incident in the kitchen upon entry!
Once you read it's content you will be in no doubt whatsoever that Sheila was shot by a police wepon / bullet, and believed to have been killed as a result of her pulling the barrel of the cop gun in toward her own neck - hence why by 7.45am, her death was being spoken about in terms of it being a suicide!
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I don't believe so. I have the feeling that words are being used to show what you'd like us to believe they say, which is an opinion you're entitled to own, but not one which I share.
Try reading his handwritten notes, dated, and signed by him, then you'll see that I'm not wanting you to believe anything - what I want to know is why this bugger has been allowed to get away with lying for over three decades and no-one has picked him up on it?
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If Sheila had shot herself on the second occasion in the main bedroom, the cops would have said so!
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Try reading his handwritten notes, dated, and signed by him, then you'll see that I'm not wanting you to believe anything - what I want to know is why this bugger has been allowed to get away with lying for over three decades and no-one has picked him up on it?
I find it particularly strange that you're the only one who says he's lying. They've had 30+ years to sort this out. The evidence has always been there. I can only think, that as it's never been picked up on, it's your interpretation against theirs.
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If Sheila had shot herself on the second occasion in the main bedroom, the cops would have said so!
They haven't said she did, because she hadn't, and she didn't..
Sheila's body was reported present on the far side of the bed in the main bedroom at 8.44am..
By the time Stan Jones, and Mick Clark saw Sheila's body it was laid on top of the bed, next to June Bambers body - this was what they told Ann Eaton and the other relatives (as well as Julie Mugford) when they met up at Jeremy's cottage on the first morning of the police investigation! Sheila's body was on the bed, so was June Bambers body! The gun was resting on the bed in between both of these bodies, and Sheila had a Bible on her chest! Why would these cops tell Ann Eaton and the others this if it wasn't true?
They told her and the others this, because it was true!
After this, Stan Jones returned to the farmhouse at about 11.30am, and whilst present he took possession of the SM and Anthony Pargeters rifle from the downstairs toilet! Now, I don't have to make anything up just for argument's sake, I am reporting what cops did!
According to notes on the file, Sheila was killed outright at 9.13am - the time the second fatal shot was discharged beneath the point of her chin!
I have no reason or motive to make something like this up! Sheila died whilst senior officers were conducting 'informatives' upon and around her body! Nobody checked the gun to see if it was still loaded, there was still a round in the breach which got activated whilst senior officers were contemplating whether or not it might be suggested that she could have shot herself initially with the gun they brought to her body (rather than the police gun)? The first SOC team were present in the main bedroom recording the positions of June and Sheila's bodies after they got moved from a top the bed, onto the main bedroom floor either side of the bed!
Stan Jones only saw one bullet wound in Sheila's neck when he first saw her body on the bed, he told the COLP investigators that he hadn't realised that Sheila had been shot twice until much later in the investigation!
The police surgeon also only reported a shot to Sheila's neck!
Crime scene photographs were taken by the first SOC team showing that Sheila had only been shot once in the neck!
She ended up with two shots in her neck, after the police surgeon, and after Stan Jones viewed Sheila's body on the far side of the bed, or as the case may be on top of the bed! Sheila's body being supposedly on the bedroom floor by the time the police surgeon verified her death at 8.44am, as opposed to being on the far side of the bed, is nonsensical in view of Stan Jones seeing Sheila's body laid on top of the bed twenty minutes or so afterwards!
Sheila's body was moved from the bed onto the bedroom floor at about 9.11am...
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No, he didn't...
If what you are saying was true, then please explain to me that by reference to the 'live' contemporaneously police radio message logs, it's reported that upon entry to the kitchen, 'the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female was found'? If what you are implying had any truth at all to it, the body of one dead female found in the kitchen, would have been mentioned before any mention of a dead male! You know as well as I know that what I am saying is true! The messages timed at 7.35am, 7.37am, and 7.38am, would have made mention of the body of one dead female first and foremost before any mention whatsoever of a dead male! The fact of the matter is that it doesn't, it makes mention of the body of one dead male, before mention is made of a dead female! Sorry, but you are looking at this as though the cops made a mistake, but you are wrong, they found Neville's body first, then they reported Sheila's body both downstairs in the kitchen! As if to confirm that which I am being forced to explain what did take place in the kitchen, as being two bodies, not one, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, we learn that at 7.45am, a Civilian operator at police HQ control room contacted DS Davidson at his home address, requesting him to come on duty into the office because police were dealing with an incident at whf involving two bodies, a murder, and a suicide! Now, if there was only one body as you are implying by reference to PC Collins COLP account, then ask yourself how on earth could Neville Bambers death be described as a suicide, and a murder? We only have to fast forward in time to 8.10am, and a report that a further three bodies found upstairs, five dead in total!
The three bodies found upstairs could only be reference to the bodies of June and her two grandchildren! I work this out because with June Bamber shot 7 times, we can hardly put her death down as the suicide referred to at 7.45am...
Finally for now, there exists the officers report (ref' 1612) which deals with the shooting incident in the kitchen upon entry!
Once you read it's content you will be in no doubt whatsoever that Sheila was shot by a police wepon / bullet, and believed to have been killed as a result of her pulling the barrel of the cop gun in toward her own neck - hence why by 7.45am, her death was being spoken about in terms of it being a suicide!
Its already explained in what I posted. Collins saw Nevill beleiving it to be female and reported a dead female. Moments later it is then reported correctly as a dead male. The person writing the logs cannot appreciate confusion of the situation as he is not there.
The police where using .223 ammunition. Had such gun been used on Sheila in the areas she was shot. Her head would have more or less exploded.
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They haven't said she did, because she hadn't, and she didn't..
Sheila's body was reported present on the far side of the bed in the main bedroom at 8.44am..
By the time Stan Jones, and Mick Clark saw Sheila's body it was laid on top of the bed, next to June Bambers body - this was what they told Ann Eaton and the other relatives (as well as Julie Mugford) when they met up at Jeremy's cottage on the first morning of the police investigation! Sheila's body was on the bed, so was June Bambers body! The gun was resting on the bed in between both of these bodies, and Sheila had a Bible on her chest! Why would these cops tell Ann Eaton and the others this if it wasn't true?
They told her and the others this, because it was true!
After this, Stan Jones returned to the farmhouse at about 11.30am, and whilst present he took possession of the SM and Anthony Pargeters rifle from the downstairs toilet! Now, I don't have to make anything up just for argument's sake, I am reporting what cops did!
According to notes on the file, Sheila was killed outright at 9.13am - the time the second fatal shot was discharged beneath the point of her chin!
I have no reason or motive to make something like this up! Sheila died whilst senior officers were conducting 'informatives' upon and around her body! Nobody checked the gun to see if it was still loaded, there was still a round in the breach which got activated whilst senior officers were contemplating whether or not it might be suggested that she could have shot herself initially with the gun they brought to her body (rather than the police gun)? The first SOC team were present in the main bedroom recording the positions of June and Sheila's bodies after they got moved from a top the bed, onto the main bedroom floor either side of the bed!
Stan Jones only saw one bullet wound in Sheila's neck when he first saw her body on the bed, he told the COLP investigators that he hadn't realised that Sheila had been shot twice until much later in the investigation!
The police surgeon also only reported a shot to Sheila's neck!
Crime scene photographs were taken by the first SOC team showing that Sheila had only been shot once in the neck!
She ended up with two shots in her neck, after the police surgeon, and after Stan Jones viewed Sheila's body on the far side of the bed, or as the case may be on top of the bed! Sheila's body being supposedly on the bedroom floor by the time the police surgeon verified her death at 8.44am, as opposed to being on the far side of the bed, is nonsensical in view of Stan Jones seeing Sheila's body laid on top of the bed twenty minutes or so afterwards!
Sheila's body was moved from the bed onto the bedroom floor at about 9.11am...
...................And confusion reined!! It's this confusion which has been exploited to create a different truth.
Sheila's body on far side of bed? Ambiguous. Therefore can be 'managed'
Bodies on the bed/floor? Perfectly possible for either -for a period of time- to be true. One NOT excluding the other, BUT can be used to create doubt.
Having no reason to make things............appear to be other than they are, doesn't preclude us doing it, especially if our raison d'etre is to prove something other. Therefore the more doubt which can be created, the better.
Noting only one bullet wound isn't preclusion of OTHER bullet wounds. Dr Craig never noted more than A bullet wound on any of the victims. One has to wonder if/when he realized that all the other victims had more than one wound. This doesn't denote incompetency, but can be used to advantage in helping to create such an illusion.
Time of Sheila's death? Half an hour AFTER she'd been pronounced dead....................having already been dead for several hours with two nicely neat bullet holes, just as one would expect from the weapon used to inflict them.
It occurs to me that if each police person noted what he saw on entry, each report, because of a rapidly changing scene, was likely to have been different from those who entered earlier or later, but the truth as they saw it at the time, coupled with the fact that they had NO reason to believe it to have been anything other than what Jeremy had indoctrinated them with, backed up by an alleged call from his father to which he failed to respond, ie mentally deranged, gun competent, suicide threatening sister, tipped over the edge by parents who were threatening to have her children taken away from her.
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I find it particularly strange that you're the only one who says he's lying. They've had 30+ years to sort this out. The evidence has always been there. I can only think, that as it's never been picked up on, it's your interpretation against theirs.
These handwritten notes of Fletchers have only just been found and as far as I know have not been seen by anybody for anybody to comment upon. I haven't made it up, or put any slant on what Fletcher concluded - he says it in his own words, there it is for all to see, oily residue from the ejection port of the rifle present on the LHS of Sheila Caffells nightdress, and in that same region where that residue was / is, there was a small hole!
Why wasn't the residue from the ejection port of the rifle, and the small hole accompanying it photographed so that everyone could see what he found? Why not preserve the nightdress so that it could be examined independently?
Instead, what he did was conceal his working notes, that were dated, and signed by him, so that nobody could see that he had found physical evidence that Sheila had fired the gun!
Sheila did fire the gun, her nightdress that she was photographed in contained the crucial evidence that she did and that she had fired the rifle! The small hole on the same left hand side of her nightdress was / is physical confirmation that a spent cartridge case ejected itself from the gun at the time she was in possession of it and fired it!
This highly significant piece of evidence was not included in the composite witness statements made up for him by the DPP and the dastardly Essex mob! They improved their own case by omitting any mention of the residue on the lhs of Sheila's nightdress, so that they could pursue Jeremy as the shooter at the behest of the relatives who were baying for Jeremy's blood!
If Jeremy was the shooter why was no oily residue from the gun found to be present upon his person, his clothing?
No residue found in any bathroom, or sink where the shooter might have cleaned themselves up?
Not residues from the gun at any point of exit from the farmhouse after four of the victims had been shot and killed!
No residues from the gun found on the bycicle that the prosecution and it's witnesses allege that Jeremy made good his escape after shooting dead four of the five victims!
All the residue that anybody needed to know about was there on the lhs of Sheila's light blue nightdress (ND/3)...
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...................And confusion reined!! It's this confusion which has been exploited to create a different truth.
Sheila's body on far side of bed? Ambiguous. Therefore can be 'managed'
Bodies on the bed/floor? Perfectly possible for either -for a period of time- to be true. One NOT excluding the other, BUT can be used to create doubt.
Having no reason to make things............appear to be other than they are, doesn't preclude us doing it, especially if our raison d'etre is to prove something other. Therefore the more doubt which can be created, the better.
Noting only one bullet wound isn't preclusion of OTHER bullet wounds. Dr Craig never noted more than A bullet wound on any of the victims. One has to wonder if/when he realized that all the other victims had more than one wound. This doesn't denote incompetency, but can be used to advantage in helping to create such an illusion.
Time of Sheila's death? Half an hour AFTER she'd been pronounced dead....................having already been dead for several hours with two nicely neat bullet holes, just as one would expect from the weapon used to inflict them.
It occurs to me that if each police person noted what he saw on entry, each report, because of a rapidly changing scene, was likely to have been different from those who entered earlier or later, but the truth as they saw it at the time, coupled with the fact that they had NO reason to believe it to have been anything other than what Jeremy had indoctrinated them with, backed up by an alleged call from his father to which he failed to respond, ie mentally deranged, gun competent, suicide threatening sister, tipped over the edge by parents who were threatening to have her children taken away from her.
The truth has been exploited by Essex police and it's experts and prosecution witnesses!
Sheila's body on far side of bed? Ambiguous. Therefore can be 'managed
Dr Craig doesn't once mention the fact that Sheila Caffells body was on the bedroom floor! Neither does the copper who accompanied him at that time! (8.44 am), the phrases used by both parties was that Sheila's body was 'on the far side of the bed'. Since, the three letters of the word 'BED' is mentioned in the accounts attributed to them is used, not only is it logical to assume that they were referring to Sheila's body at 'that' (8.44am) time as being 'on the bed', it requires a leap of faith to imagine that what Craig and the other one saw, was Sheila's body being actually on the floor of the bedroom! Now, I wasn't there inside the bedroom when Stan Jones and Mick Clark visited there, or later on when they informed Ann Eaton, and the others gathered at Jeremy's cottage, that Neville's body was found in the kitchen, and that the bodies of the two children were found in their separate beds in a bedroom! That Sheila and June's bodies were found both laid on top of the bed side by side each other, that Sheila had only been shot once, and that on the bed in between both of their bodies was the rifle, and that there was a Bible on top of Sheila Caffells chest!
Now, I can't begin to imagine why anybody at all would want to be placing Sheila Caffells body as though it had been found on the bedroom floor, if what Jones and Clark told Ann Eaton and the others, that Sheila's body had been laid on top of the bed when they visited the main bedroom prior to leaving the scene to come with Jeremy to his cottage? Why would they tell Ann Eaton and the others the correct location of Neville Bambers body, downstairs in the kitchen, and that the two child victims were found in their beds in another bedroom, yet lie about how the bodies of Sheila and June Bamber had been laid on top of the bed in the main bedroom?
I don't have to manage the evidence, it's all been recorded in various ways by Dr Craig (8.44am), and the cop who accompanied him at that time. Also by Stan Jones and Mick Clark, and Ann Eaton it's all in the file.
Then there are the photographs and the video footage that was taken at the scene by DC Oakey and DC Henderson (the first SOC team who performed the duty of recording the positions of the bodies of Sheila and June as and when senior officers moved the bodies whilst conducting 'informatives' in that bedroom between 9.00am and 10.00am). That's why the second team of SOC (Cook, Davidson, Hammersley, and Bird) were held back and prevented from entering the crime scene and taking control of it (after 10.00am)! Cops didn't want the staged death scenes of Sheila and June in the bedroom recorded on film and footage by the same SOCO's who had photographed the two bodies on the bed together!
They had to have two teams of SOCO's, the first one (Oakey and Henderson) to record the main bedroom scene before senior officers interferred with it, and whilst moving the bodies, the gun, and the bible around, followed by the second team (Cook, Davidson, Hammersley and Bird) whose job was to record the scene as it had been left by senior officers, with a view of relying upon what the second team recorded as it had allegedly been found two hours or so, beforehand!
So, please don't try to insinuate that I am managing the evidence, it's not me that's been deceiving everybody about where Sheila Caffells body was at one time or another that morning, look no further than the dastardly Essex police!
Why did they use two different SOC teams?
Why weren't all the photographs which Oakey and Henderson took, and all the photographs that Bird took, all disclosed to the defence? The answer is a relatively simple one, because the truth of the matter is that if all 581 photographs had been disclosed to Jeremy and his legal team, Jeremy would never have stood trial, because Oakey and Henderson took the film and footage of Sheila's body on the bed and on the floor, without the gun, and with the gun, with the Bible on Sheila's chest and without the Bible on her chest! Bird took photographs after 10.00am with Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, with no Bible in her chest, but instead the rifle on top of her body!
Everything I am saying is absolutely true, and Essex police, the DPP, the CCRC and every other Tom dick and Harry at the Home Office, and within the Criminal Justice System knows what has taken place here! It's shocking, and they know that when the shit hits the fan that the general public at large will view the role of the police entirely differently! They shoot people don't they, or let's just say they have shot people, sometimes by mistake? They used to be responsible for innocent people being hanged! They forge witness statements in people's names, they charge people with offences that the person concerned committed no offence, they are violent and have a mob mentality in many cases!
There were a total of 581 photographs that were taken in connection with these investigations (SC/688/85 and SC/786/85), and yet only around 223 saw the light of day, another 358 or so were deliberately withheld many of these missing photographs show Sheila and June's bodies on the bed together with the rifle on the bed in between both bodies and with a Bible on top of Sheila's chest! Some show only Sheila's body on the bed, with June's body taken off the bed, with the rifle taken off the bed, and with the Bible taken off Sheila's chest - more importantly, the fact that Sheila had only been shot once at the time these photographs were taken!
PC Bird had to fake a false photographic schedule showing that only around 223 photographs had been taken during the police investigation, but he wasn't clever enough to pull the deception off, as per his trial testimony where he let slip that DC Oakey had taken a particular photograph of Sheila at the scene with the barrel of the gun resting against the left side of Sheila's neck!
Bird dropped a clanger which throws the validity of these murder convictions wide open!
Officially, DC Oakey and DC Henderson were never present at whf on the first morning of the police investigation - but if that were true, how did DC Oakey manage to take at least one photograph showing the guns barrel resting against the left hand side of Sheila Caffells neck at the scene?
The truth will out, the tide of corruption and dishonesty in this prosecution will soon be turning into a raging tsunami..
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...................And confusion reined!! It's this confusion which has been exploited to create a different truth.
Sheila's body on far side of bed? Ambiguous. Therefore can be 'managed'
Bodies on the bed/floor? Perfectly possible for either -for a period of time- to be true. One NOT excluding the other, BUT can be used to create doubt.
Having no reason to make things............appear to be other than they are, doesn't preclude us doing it, especially if our raison d'etre is to prove something other. Therefore the more doubt which can be created, the better.
Noting only one bullet wound isn't preclusion of OTHER bullet wounds. Dr Craig never noted more than A bullet wound on any of the victims. One has to wonder if/when he realized that all the other victims had more than one wound. This doesn't denote incompetency, but can be used to advantage in helping to create such an illusion.
Time of Sheila's death? Half an hour AFTER she'd been pronounced dead....................having already been dead for several hours with two nicely neat bullet holes, just as one would expect from the weapon used to inflict them.
It occurs to me that if each police person noted what he saw on entry, each report, because of a rapidly changing scene, was likely to have been different from those who entered earlier or later, but the truth as they saw it at the time, coupled with the fact that they had NO reason to believe it to have been anything other than what Jeremy had indoctrinated them with, backed up by an alleged call from his father to which he failed to respond, ie mentally deranged, gun competent, suicide threatening sister, tipped over the edge by parents who were threatening to have her children taken away from her.
Noting only one bullet wound isn't preclusion of OTHER bullet wounds. Dr Craig never noted more than A bullet wound on any of the victims. One has to wonder if/when he realized that all the other victims had more than one wound. This doesn't denote incompetency, but can be used to advantage in helping to create such an illusion.
When Stan Jones visited the main bedroom and viewed Sheila Caffells body laid on top of the bed, he stated that when he looked closely at her body, it appeared to him that she looked so peaceful, as though she were simply asleep! Now, bearing in mind he told the COLP investigators this in 1991, and the fact that he told them that he didn't know until much later on that she had been shot a second time, and on the morning in question how Stan Jones had told Ann Eaton that Sheila's body was on top of the bed with June's, the rifle on the bed in between their bodies, with a Bible on top of Sheila's chest, and that Sheila only had been shot once by that stage, or at least that Sheila only had one bullet wound in her neck at the time Stan Jones had seen Sheila's body on top of the bed, how is it possible for an astute detective that StanJones makes his self out to be, to not be able to see two bullet holes in Sheila's neck at the time he says that she had looked so peaceful, as if she was merely sleeping?
What, with two bullet holes in her neck (if that's what we're being expected to believe), blood streaming from both corners of her mouth, blood running out of her left nostril and pooling in her left eye socket, and blood flowing from two bullet holes in her neck running diagonally in fashion across her throat towards her right shoulder, and a huge amount of blood on the collar of her nightdress, and a humongous triangular blood stain in the region of her right shoulder and her right armpit, together with bloodied fingermarks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, what with gouge marks and bloodstains in the region of her wrist and the top part of her right hand and right forearm, Stan Jones witnessed all of this and it seemed to him that Sheila had looked so peaceful as if she had just been asleep?
Well, I am sorry but there is no way in a month of Sundays that I am going to be buying into that fantasy!
It's obviously quite clear that Stan Jones didn't see any second bullet hole in Sheila's throat when he visited the main bedroom and viewed her body! He didn't see a second bullet hole in her neck because, hey guess what? She hadn't received the second shot by that stage! There was no blood running from the corners of her mouth, there was no blood escaping from Sheila's left nostril which had pooled into her left eye socket, there was no heavy bloodstaining on the collar of her nightdress, there wasn't a huge triangular blood stain on Sheila's nightdress in the region of her right shoulder and her right armpit, there wasn't any bloodied fingermarks on the front lower part of Sheila's nightdress, there wasn't any gouge marks and blood on the top part of her right hand, or smears of blood all the way around her right forearm - there was none of these things on Sheila's body and nightdress when Stan Jones visited the main bedroom scene and viewed the peaceful looking, body of Sheila laid on top of the bed with one bullet hole in her neck, with very little blood which had seeped vertically in fashion down her neck indicative that she must have been standing upright at the time that single shot had been inflicted, and remember what Stan Jones said, he said Sheila looked as if she was simply asleep at the time he viewed her body before he left the scene to go to Jeremy's cottage with DC Mick Clark!
Now, I find it hard to imagine how anybody can assume that somebody who has two bullet holes pumped into the neck, with blood pouring for every orifice above waist height except for the victims ears, and blood gushing here there and everywhere, staining the nightdress that Sheila was wearing, with all these marks on the top part of her right hand, wrist and forearm, and bloody fingermarks on the front part of her nightdress, and despite there having been a Bible on top of Sheila's chest, that anybody can come to the conclusion that Sheila looked so peaceful, like she was just a sleep!!
What..
Give me a break...
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Noting only one bullet wound isn't preclusion of OTHER bullet wounds. Dr Craig never noted more than A bullet wound on any of the victims. One has to wonder if/when he realized that all the other victims had more than one wound. This doesn't denote incompetency, but can be used to advantage in helping to create such an illusion.
When Stan Jones visited the main bedroom and viewed Sheila Caffells body laid on top of the bed, he stated that when he looked closely at her body, it appeared to him that she looked so peaceful, as though she were simply asleep! Now, bearing in mind he told the COLP investigators this in 1991, and the fact that he told them that he didn't know until much later on that she had been shot a second time, and on the morning in question how Stan Jones had told Ann Eaton that Sheila's body was on top of the bed with June's, the rifle on the bed in between their bodies, with a Bible on top of Sheila's chest, and that Sheila only had been shot once by that stage, or at least that Sheila only had one bullet wound in her neck at the time Stan Jones had seen Sheila's body on top of the bed, how is it possible for an astute detective that StanJones makes his self out to be, to not be able to see two bullet holes in Sheila's neck at the time he says that she had looked so peaceful, as if she was merely sleeping?
What, with two bullet holes in her neck (if that's what we're being expected to believe), blood streaming from both corners of her mouth, blood running out of her left nostril and pooling in her left eye socket, and blood flowing from two bullet holes in her neck running diagonally in fashion across her throat towards her right shoulder, and a huge amount of blood on the collar of her nightdress, and a humongous triangular blood stain in the region of her right shoulder and her right armpit, together with bloodied fingermarks on the front lower right hand side of her nightdress, what with gouge marks and bloodstains in the region of her wrist and the top part of her right hand and right forearm, Stan Jones witnessed all of this and it seemed to him that Sheila had looked so peaceful as if she had just been asleep?
Well, I am sorry but there is no way in a month of Sundays that I am going to be buying into that fantasy!
It's obviously quite clear that Stan Jones didn't see any second bullet hole in Sheila's throat when he visited the main bedroom and viewed her body! He didn't see a second bullet hole in her neck because, hey guess what? She hadn't received the second shot by that stage! There was no blood running from the corners of her mouth, there was no blood escaping from Sheila's left nostril which had pooled into her left eye socket, there was no heavy bloodstaining on the collar of her nightdress, there wasn't a huge triangular blood stain on Sheila's nightdress in the region of her right shoulder and her right armpit, there wasn't any bloodied fingermarks on the front lower part of Sheila's nightdress, there wasn't any gouge marks and blood on the top part of her right hand, or smears of blood all the way around her right forearm - there was none of these things on Sheila's body and nightdress when Stan Jones visited the main bedroom scene and viewed the peaceful looking, body of Sheila laid on top of the bed with one bullet hole in her neck, with very little blood which had seeped vertically in fashion down her neck indicative that she must have been standing upright at the time that single shot had been inflicted, and remember what Stan Jones said, he said Sheila looked as if she was simply asleep at the time he viewed her body before he left the scene to go to Jeremy's cottage with DC Mick Clark!
Now, I find it hard to imagine how anybody can assume that somebody who has two bullet holes pumped into the neck, with blood pouring for every orifice above waist height except for the victims ears, and blood gushing here there and everywhere, staining the nightdress that Sheila was wearing, with all these marks on the top part of her right hand, wrist and forearm, and bloody fingermarks on the front part of her nightdress, and despite there having been a Bible on top of Sheila's chest, that anybody can come to the conclusion that Sheila looked so peaceful, like she was just a sleep!!
What..
Give me a break...
So how would you, as a close relative, wish to have the victim described to you? A) She was barely recognizable, sir. Half her face was blown away taking her jaw and teeth with it, and the other half was covered in blood. B) She looked peaceful, just like she was asleep.
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The truth has been exploited by Essex police and it's experts and prosecution witnesses!
Sheila's body on far side of bed? Ambiguous. Therefore can be 'managed
Dr Craig doesn't once mention the fact that Sheila Caffells body was on the bedroom floor! Neither does the copper who accompanied him at that time! (8.44 am), the phrases used by both parties was that Sheila's body was 'on the far side of the bed'. Since, the three letters of the word 'BED' is mentioned in the accounts attributed to them is used, not only is it logical to assume that they were referring to Sheila's body at 'that' (8.44am) time as being 'on the bed', it requires a leap of faith to imagine that what Craig and the other one saw, was Sheila's body being actually on the floor of the bedroom! Now, I wasn't there inside the bedroom when Stan Jones and Mick Clark visited there, or later on when they informed Ann Eaton, and the others gathered at Jeremy's cottage, that Neville's body was found in the kitchen, and that the bodies of the two children were found in their separate beds in a bedroom! That Sheila and June's bodies were found both laid on top of the bed side by side each other, that Sheila had only been shot once, and that on the bed in between both of their bodies was the rifle, and that there was a Bible on top of Sheila Caffells chest!
Now, I can't begin to imagine why anybody at all would want to be placing Sheila Caffells body as though it had been found on the bedroom floor, if what Jones and Clark told Ann Eaton and the others, that Sheila's body had been laid on top of the bed when they visited the main bedroom prior to leaving the scene to come with Jeremy to his cottage? Why would they tell Ann Eaton and the others the correct location of Neville Bambers body, downstairs in the kitchen, and that the two child victims were found in their beds in another bedroom, yet lie about how the bodies of Sheila and June Bamber had been laid on top of the bed in the main bedroom?
I don't have to manage the evidence, it's all been recorded in various ways by Dr Craig (8.44am), and the cop who accompanied him at that time. Also by Stan Jones and Mick Clark, and Ann Eaton it's all in the file.
Then there are the photographs and the video footage that was taken at the scene by DC Oakey and DC Henderson (the first SOC team who performed the duty of recording the positions of the bodies of Sheila and June as and when senior officers moved the bodies whilst conducting 'informatives' in that bedroom between 9.00am and 10.00am). That's why the second team of SOC (Cook, Davidson, Hammersley, and Bird) were held back and prevented from entering the crime scene and taking control of it (after 10.00am)! Cops didn't want the staged death scenes of Sheila and June in the bedroom recorded on film and footage by the same SOCO's who had photographed the two bodies on the bed together!
They had to have two teams of SOCO's, the first one (Oakey and Henderson) to record the main bedroom scene before senior officers interferred with it, and whilst moving the bodies, the gun, and the bible around, followed by the second team (Cook, Davidson, Hammersley and Bird) whose job was to record the scene as it had been left by senior officers, with a view of relying upon what the second team recorded as it had allegedly been found two hours or so, beforehand!
So, please don't try to insinuate that I am managing the evidence, it's not me that's been deceiving everybody about where Sheila Caffells body was at one time or another that morning, look no further than the dastardly Essex police!
Why did they use two different SOC teams?
Why weren't all the photographs which Oakey and Henderson took, and all the photographs that Bird took, all disclosed to the defence? The answer is a relatively simple one, because the truth of the matter is that if all 581 photographs had been disclosed to Jeremy and his legal team, Jeremy would never have stood trial, because Oakey and Henderson took the film and footage of Sheila's body on the bed and on the floor, without the gun, and with the gun, with the Bible on Sheila's chest and without the Bible on her chest! Bird took photographs after 10.00am with Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, with no Bible in her chest, but instead the rifle on top of her body!
Everything I am saying is absolutely true, and Essex police, the DPP, the CCRC and every other Tom dick and Harry at the Home Office, and within the Criminal Justice System knows what has taken place here! It's shocking, and they know that when the shit hits the fan that the general public at large will view the role of the police entirely differently! They shoot people don't they, or let's just say they have shot people, sometimes by mistake? They used to be responsible for innocent people being hanged! They forge witness statements in people's names, they charge people with offences that the person concerned committed no offence, they are violent and have a mob mentality in many cases!
There were a total of 581 photographs that were taken in connection with these investigations (SC/688/85 and SC/786/85), and yet only around 223 saw the light of day, another 358 or so were deliberately withheld many of these missing photographs show Sheila and June's bodies on the bed together with the rifle on the bed in between both bodies and with a Bible on top of Sheila's chest! Some show only Sheila's body on the bed, with June's body taken off the bed, with the rifle taken off the bed, and with the Bible taken off Sheila's chest - more importantly, the fact that Sheila had only been shot once at the time these photographs were taken!
PC Bird had to fake a false photographic schedule showing that only around 223 photographs had been taken during the police investigation, but he wasn't clever enough to pull the deception off, as per his trial testimony where he let slip that DC Oakey had taken a particular photograph of Sheila at the scene with the barrel of the gun resting against the left side of Sheila's neck!
Bird dropped a clanger which throws the validity of these murder convictions wide open!
Officially, DC Oakey and DC Henderson were never present at whf on the first morning of the police investigation - but if that were true, how did DC Oakey manage to take at least one photograph showing the guns barrel resting against the left hand side of Sheila Caffells neck at the scene?
The truth will out, the tide of corruption and dishonesty in this prosecution will soon be turning into a raging tsunami..
Time of Sheila's death? Half an hour AFTER she'd been pronounced dead....................having already been dead for several hours with two nicely neat bullet holes, just as one would expect from the weapon used to inflict them
It's not me making things up - all the evidence is there, it appears there because there are those amongst us who cannot begin to imagine or comprehend that there were two distinct investigations into these shootings, and an internal firearms enquiry into the circumstances surrounding the discharge of a police officers firearm at the time entry was gained into the kitchen (Officers Report, reference no. 1612, applies). I don't think some of those amongst us can grasp that by the time Jeremy Bamber stood trial in October 1986, that the dastardly Essex police and it's collaborators the DPP, sang from the evidence gathered during the term of the second part of the police investigation (gathered under a Crime Reference of SC/786/85) - at this stage, a totally misleading account was not only being relied upon by the prosecuting authorities and it's allies, or interested parties, but this misleading truth was fed to the unsuspecting Jury, who had no knowledge that in fact there had existed another police file, (SC/688/85) containing contradictory information and conclusions, and other evidence capable of establishing beyond reasonable doubt that the prosecutions case against Jeremy Bamber was and is a totally dishonest one!
You see, the dastardly Essex police, and the equally questionable DPP, and all other interested parties, held a dark secret which they never intended to leak out to the court which tried Jeremy Bamber as the out and outright killer! There was no hitman, no mercenary, no accomplice, no third party involvement in the killings of these poor victims!
Jeremy Bamber was portrayed as the greedy son who wanted to lay his hands on his parents wealth, sooner, rather than later!
He had carried out the killings, using the family owned .22 semi - automatic Anshuzt rifle, it's SM and 25 rounds of Ely .22 LR subsonic hollow point ammunition belonging to the family, etc, etc, etc...
It is not necessary for me to have to go over everything that was said during the 1986 trial, or even what took place at the 2002 failed appeal hearing! Save to say, that it was not until after the failed 2002 appeal that most of the fresh evidence contained in the first part of the police file (SC/688/85) fell into Jeremy Bambers and those who have represented him in one form or anothers, hands...
Since 2002, there has been a concerted effort on the part of the dastardly Essex police, the DPP and other state agencies to play down much of this previously unseen, evidence! In point of fact, 'they' have proceeded as though this previously undisclosed material had always been available to the defendant and his solicitors from the beginning!
This is a lie!!!
Jeremy Bamber was never arrested in connection with any of the evidence gathered by Essex police during the first part of the police investigation, contained in police file SC/688/85, he was not entitled to see any information gathered in that file because none of its contents related to him, or any suspicion that he had done anything untoward with regard to the circumds
His legal team were only entitled to see the evidence collected by the police which they had gathered during the second part of their investigation (SC/786/85)...
Now, back to responding to the instant Time of Sheila's death? Half an hour AFTER she'd been pronounced dead....................having already been dead for several hours with two nicely neat bullet holes, just as one would expect from the weapon used to inflict them[/i][/color]
This anomaly occurs because of previously undisclosed evidence, from the first part of the police investigation (or should I say, the police file gathered under SC/688/85)! The location at the time of first contact with Sheila Caffells was downstairs in the kitchen at the time the firearms team entered the kitchen! This was at 7.35am, and the altercation which took place involving the discharge of a police firearm in the kitchen at around that time was over and done with by 7.37am, confirmed a minute later at 7.38am! Sheila believed dead by 7.37am, onwards...
Of course, the jury never got an opportunity to consider and reject the significance of such evidence, because this evidence was never part of the SC/786/85 file used to prosecute Jeremy! Now, you can insinuate all you like about me supposedly making all of this up, but the truth is that I am not making anything up! It's evidence which has always been in the first part of the investigation (SC/688/85) that Jeremy and his solicitors were never given access to prior to the commencement of his October 1986, Chelmsford Crown Court trial, or indeed, for that matter, prior to or inclusive of the failed 2002 appeal hearing!
I do not wish to go into too much detail at this stage save to say you will need to see the 'Officers Report' concerning the shooting incident which occurred at the time of the first armed police officers entry into the kitchen at 7.35am - the report in question has a reference of '1612'...
It is not for me to have to post the contents of this report, it's supposedly withheld under pii, that is the contents of that / this report!
Why don't Jeremy's current campaign team demand it's disclosure, they are entitled to see it's contents providing that they give a legitimate explanation for why the report in question and it's contents should be disclosed, since when something is withheld under the pii rules, it does not mean that the contents of such material can never be disclosed! For example, if Jeremy's current campaign team requested that it should be disclosed, because it's contents will confirm that Jeremy Bamber could not have shot dead his sister, Sheila Caffells, and staged her death scene on the bedroom floor, and that he could not have removed a SM from the end of the guns barrel, and did so because he feared that if he had left the SM on the end of the guns barrel, it would have been possible to prove that his sister had not in fact shot and killed herself, and that 'he' Jeremy Bamber had not, in fact taken the SM all the way downstairs as alluded to by the prosecution at his October, 1986 trial, and hidden it away inside some ammunition box or other in a cupboard in a downstairs room known to the family as 'the den', because right up until 7.35am his sister had still been very much alive, that prior to the shooting incident involving a firearm officers weapon becoming involved in a shooting incident at that moment, that Jeremy Bambers sister, 'Sheila Jean Caffell' had not in fact been shot at all, and could not in fact have been killed by Jeremy Bamber more than four hours previously, as alleged!
The 'Officers Report' (1612) should be disclosed in the interests of Justice, also in the public interest, and this miscarriage of justice set straight!
No matter how much the relatives hated Jeremy, one thing is absolutely certain - and that fact is that Jeremy Bamber could not have shot and killed his sister Sheila and staged her body to fool police into thinking that she had shot and killed the others, and that he had then staged her death scene on the main bedroom floor, to fool police into thinking that his sister had taken her own life, because at 7.35am, was the very first time that Sheila had got shot by anyone!
As for Sheila's body being 'on the far side of the bed' at 8.44am when the police surgeon saw Sheila's body and mistakenly pronounced her as being dead at 'that' stage, and later on when Stan Jones saw Sheila's body laid on top of the bed, sporting one bullet wound to her neck, when Sheila had appeared so peaceful, and as though she were but sleeping thereafter, well I could go into prolific detail here, but what would be the point?
Cops shot Sheila in the kitchen, it should be clear to anyone that this is the correct interpretation of what happened - cops thought she was dead, but alas she wasn't! Next Sheila's body ended up 'on the far side of the bed' at 8.44am, at which stage a police surgeon pronounced Sheila as being dead, as a result of what appeared to be a single shot in the neck! Then there was Stan Jones, he visited the main bedroom scene and he described how he had seen Sheila Caffells body laid 'on top of the bed', looking so peaceful, as if she was merely just a sleep!
Well, she wasn't dead by that stage either...
By the time Stan Jones saw Sheila's body laid 'on top of the bed' she had not yet been shot a second time!!!
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So how would you, as a close relative, wish to have the victim described to you? A) She was barely recognizable, sir. Half her face was blown away taking her jaw and teeth with it, and the other half was covered in blood. B) She looked peaceful, just like she was asleep.
You overlook one vital piece of evidence, 'THE CONTENTS OF OFFICERS REPORT' (reference 1612, refers)...
if what you say was true, why does such an 'Officers Report' exist, and why are it's contents withheld under pii?
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You overlook one vital piece of evidence, 'THE CONTENTS OF OFFICERS REPORT' (reference 1612, refers)...
if what you say was true, why does such an 'Officers Report' exist, and why are it's contents withheld under pii?
If Sheila was already dead by the time the first armed officers entered the kitchen at 7.35am, why was there a shooting incident in that kitchen, who got shot, and who do you think discharged a loaded gun?
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If Sheila was already dead by the time the first armed officers entered the kitchen at 7.35am, why was there a shooting incident in that kitchen, who got shot, and who do you think discharged a loaded gun?
Well, you are now going to have to pay attention because what I have got to say next proves beyond any doubt whatsoever that PS Woodcock ( Yes, I can name him because it's the truth, I know it to be the truth, and I believe it to be the truth ) PS Woodcock gun discharged a shot when he entered the kitchen, his gun and one round of ammunition was discharged when he entered that kitchen at about 7.35am! So, prey tell me, and educate me regarding what type of Shooting incident he was involved in? Who did he shoot at? Why did he shoot at that person? Why has PS Woodcock's witness statement been tampered with from the very point where he makes mention of himself entering the kitchen?
Do you think you and they are dealing with a numpty brain dead person when they are confronted by me, with all these facts?
Pages are missing from Woodcock's witness statement, and a page has been inserted with use of a completely different typeset at the stage where he allegedly enters the kitchen, where the shooting incident occurred according to the 'Officers Report' (1612)...
Hope your not insinuating that I am making these facts up?
Why would the 'Officers Report' (1612) be withheld under pii, concerning a shooting incident in the kitchen upon entry? Moreover, why would page contents be missing from PS Woodcock's witness statement? Why would a completely different type writer be used to insert evidence into the body of an already existing and complete witness statement, at the very point where Woodcock himself enters the kitchen?
Do you believe that I haven't got a brain that is capable of understanding precisely what has been going on here?
The Criminal Justice System should hold its pig breath head in shame for what the system has been allowed to do to this innocent chap Jeremy Bamber..
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Oh, I get it...
Woodcock's weapon went off accidentally!!!
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Oh, I get it...
Woodcock's weapon went off accidentally!!!
Such was the accidental nature of the Woodcock firearm discharging a shot when he entered the kitchen, that it was felt necessary to tampered with the contents of his witness statement, take some contents out, and insert different contents using a completely different type writer (see inserted page 5 contents, and query a further 3 pages of missing contents)!!!
So, where are the missing pages of evidence that some corrupted bugger took out if the statement?
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Such was the accidental nature of the Woodcock firearm discharging a shot when he entered the kitchen, that it was felt necessary to tampered with the contents of his witness statement, take some contents out, and insert different contents using a completely different type writer!!!
So, where are the missing pages of evidence that some corrupted bugger took out if the statement?
We are now getting down to the nitty-gritty part of the case, where the guilty fear to tread!
Well, I'm here trying to get them to answer for that which they have done!
I want answers .
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Where are the missing original page full of contents from PS Woodcock's witness statement?
Who authorised the removal of this evidence?
When was it authorised?
Which corrupted bugger retyped the inserted page contents?
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Where are the missing original page full of contents from PS Woodcock's witness statement?
Who authorised the removal of this evidence?
When was it authorised?
Which corrupted bugger retyped the inserted page contents?
Here is the inserted page 5 contents, retyped by a different typewriter:-
The contents have been inserted at this point for a number of important reasons, (1) to conceal the truth concerning the shooting incident which occurred when Woodcock entered the kitchen (1612, refers), and (2) to alter the alleged description of two bodies being present at this stage in the kitchen, here Woodcock adopts a description befitting how PC Bird photographed the kitchen scene from 10.00am, onward, not what Woodcock was actually confronted with, and (3) he describes the kitchen table as having been 'Overturned', so, who put the table back on its four legs and reset the crockery and the utensils?
The devil is always in the detail - please note that on page (1) of Woodcock's witness statement, it states that his statement consisted of 13 pages (each missing page content is true to the best of his knowledge and belief, so please where are the absent three pages of content (4 pages in total including the original page 5 contents)?
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The kitchen table 'OVERTURNED' by Jove...
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You overlook one vital piece of evidence, 'THE CONTENTS OF OFFICERS REPORT' (reference 1612, refers)...
if what you say was true, why does such an 'Officers Report' exist, and why are it's contents withheld under pii?
Do you overlook the vital fact that if YOU have hold/knowledge of " 'THE CONTENTS OF OFFICERS REPORT' (reference 1612, refers)..." it would appear that it's contents are either not/no longer/never have been withheld under pii, OR are available to anyone who asks to see them.
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Do you overlook the vital fact that if YOU have hold/knowledge of " 'THE CONTENTS OF OFFICERS REPORT' (reference 1612, refers)..." it would appear that it's contents are either not/no longer/never have been withheld under pii, OR are available to anyone who asks to see them.
I have seen the contents of the officers report made by PS Woodcock, it's been withheld from Jeremy and his campaign team as far as I know - if not, ask for it and say why it's needed, nothing could be any simpler, pii will not protect its contents because it contains direct evidence that Sheila was still alive and had not in fact been shot at all until the shooting incident!
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I have seen the contents of the officers report made by PS Woodcock, it's been withheld from Jeremy and his campaign team as far as I know - if not, ask for it and say why it's needed, nothing could be any simpler, pii will not protect its contents because it contains direct evidence that Sheila was still alive and had not in fact been shot at all until the shooting incident!
Why shoot Neville if he was already dead with 7 bullets already pumped into his body by Sheila?
Do you think it was Neville Bamber who Woodcock shot, and not Sheila?
Of course it was Sheila, who he shot who else could it have been?
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Why shoot Neville if he was already dead with 7 bullets already pumped into his body by Sheila?
Do you think it was Neville Bamber who Woodcock shot, and not Sheila?
Of course it was Sheila, who he shot who else could it have been?
June?
Hardly likely if she never left the confines of the main bedroom upstairs?
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Well, you don't think that the shooting incident in the kitchen involved Woodcock shooting dead an already dead child victim, either, do you?
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Why shoot Neville if he was already dead with 7 bullets already pumped into his body by Sheila?
Do you think it was Neville Bamber who Woodcock shot, and not Sheila?
Of course it was Sheila, who he shot who else could it have been?
MORE likely it was the Phantom of the Opera.
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I have seen the contents of the officers report made by PS Woodcock, it's been withheld from Jeremy and his campaign team as far as I know - if not, ask for it and say why it's needed, nothing could be any simpler, pii will not protect its contents because it contains direct evidence that Sheila was still alive and had not in fact been shot at all until the shooting incident!
Well, if it's only being withheld from Jeremy and his team, what's stopped you from sending for it, making copies and sending them to Jeremy's legal team?
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Well, you don't think that the shooting incident in the kitchen involved Woodcock shooting dead an already dead child victim, either, do you?
I'll you a clue, it had something to do with a shooting incident when Woodcock entered the internal kitchen door! Furthermore, this shooting incident is linked to one of the two bodies reported as present downstairs in the kitchen referred to in the first police file (SC/688/85), and it involved a female! The females death was reported as a suicide! The females body was noted after the mention of Neville Bambers body in all police radio messages thus discounting for any possibility of there having been some sort of a mix up! There couldn't have been the sort of mix up where cops are saying Neville's body was originally mistaken for that of a female because the male body was reported before mention of the female body! Furthermore, no-one would explain Neville Bambers death as being a suicide, because he had been shot a total of 7 times! June Bambers death couldn't have been the female body referred to as being present downstairs in the kitchen because she had been shot by 7 bullets and her death could not be described by any bodies standards as a suicide - and besides at 8.10am, there were only three bodies upstairs, not four!
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MORE likely it was the Phantom of the Opera.
wonder why Essex police refused Jeremy all the paperwork relating to all the firearms and ammunition drawn from the force armoury by all 20 of the firearm officers who attended the incident at whf on 7th August 1985? Why Essex police refuse to release information regarding the number of rounds PS Woodcock was issued with prior to him attending the seize, and the total number of rounds he returned there after he left the scene?
You don't think it's because he was one round short, do you?
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wonder why Essex police refused Jeremy all the paperwork relating to all the firearms and ammunition drawn from the force armoury by all 20 of the firearm officers who attended the incident at whf on 7th August 1985? Why Essex police refuse to release information regarding the number of rounds PS Woodcock was issued with prior to him attending the seize, and the total number of rounds he returned there after he left the scene?
You don't think it's because he was one round short, do you?
I have no idea, ballistics not being my forte...................but I'm willing to bet it has very little -indeed, probably nothing- to do with what you're claiming.
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wonder why Essex police refused Jeremy all the paperwork relating to all the firearms and ammunition drawn from the force armoury by all 20 of the firearm officers who attended the incident at whf on 7th August 1985? Why Essex police refuse to release information regarding the number of rounds PS Woodcock was issued with prior to him attending the seize, and the total number of rounds he returned there after he left the scene?
You don't think it's because he was one round short, do you?
Don't overlook the significance of who was involved in the shooting incident that took place downstairs in the kitchen when PS Woodcock entered the kitchen (1612, refers), and don't be afraid to think this might have got something to do with the body of one dead female being present downstairs in the kitchen after Neville Bambers body had already been accounted for!
Oh, and don't be afraid to think how a piece of badly fragmented bullet (PV/20) which the pathologist removed from Sheila's neck during autopsy performed on 7th August 1985, had manifested itself and grown into a whole bullet by the 20th September 1985, to enable the prosecutions ballistic expert to say that the newly acquired whole bullet had been fired via the anshuzt rifle!!
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Don't overlook the significance of who was involved in the shooting incident that took place downstairs in the kitchen when PS Woodcock entered the kitchen (1612, refers), and don't be afraid to think this might have got something to do with the body of one dead female being present downstairs in the kitchen after Neville Bambers body had already been accounted for!
Oh, and don't be afraid to think how a piece of badly fragmented bullet (PV/20) which the pathologist removed from Sheila's neck during autopsy performed on 7th August 1985, had manifested itself and grown into a whole bullet by the 20th September 1985, to enable the prosecutions ballistic expert to say that the newly acquired whole bullet had been fired via the anshuzt rifle!!
try not to pretend that there was only a series of official test firing of the anshuzt rifle, with and without a SM, using control ammunition on and after the 20th September 1985, when by reference to his own working handwritten notes, dated, and signed by him (Fletcher) confirms that he carried out earlier test firings of the same long before that official date!
Why does the prosecutions ballistic expert in this case feel the need to have to lie and make false and very misleading witness statements?
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DC Oakey took this particular crime scene photograph at the scene according to PC Bird whilst Bird was testifying during the trial in October 1986 :-
please note that in this particular image (photo' no.25) that the blood which had ran from the corners of Sheila's mouth, from her left nostril which pooled in her left eye socket, blood which ran diagonally across her neck toward her right shoulder, etc, etc, etc, had dried and coagulated by the time DC Oakey captured this image - it should also be noted that it must have been DC Oakey and not PC Bird who had taken photographs numbered 23 and 24, of which phorto' no.23 is of particular importance, since it shows a view from the middle landing on the main stairs looking into the main bedroom with the anshuzt rifle resting against the bedroom window! Whilst testifying both PC Bird and Ron Cook testified to the effect that Cook had placed the rifle there after 'he' had removed it from Sheila's body and given it to PI Montgomery to make safe beforehand! The truth of the matter was that Ron Cook could not have placed the rifle there at that main bedroom window, and that PC Bird could not have taken photograph no.23, because DC Oakley was still taking photographs inside the main bedroom and did so right up to and inclusive of all the numbered photographs, (1) to (25) inclusive, and by the time Ron Cook took charge of the crime scene at 10.00am onward with the second team of SOCO's compromising of himself, Davidson, Hammersley and Bird, the first team of SOC (compromising of Oakey and Henderson) had already left the farmhouse - how, therefore could Ron Cook have placed the rifle at the main bedroom window and how could PC Bird have took that (23) photograph long before they were given the crime scene and took control of it! Let us not forget that Ron Cook testified that there was no-one else present inside the farmhouse once his team had been given control of it at 10.00am!
DC Oakey was still there in the main bedroom in order for him to take photograph no.25, so who was Cook and Bird trying to kid?
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We also know with a degree of certainty, that PC Bird could not have captured the following image which shows a similar view of Sheila's face and neck as shown in photo' no.25 taken by DC Oakey, only the blood was still leaking and running out of the two wounds in Sheila's neck and fresh looking!
PC Bird could not possibly have taken the image below at the scene after 10.00am that morning for obvious reasons, it must have been captured prior to photo' no.25 that PC Bird told the court that DC Oakey had taken! I have taken into consideration different explanbations which have been put forward where it has been suggested that somebody has been messing with the contrast and picture settings to create the impression that the blood looks wet but I have dismissed this! What is more likely was that DC Oakey had his camera fixed in position on a tripod pointing at the victim, and that at various intervals he took the same picture with the blood drying at different intervals! Sheila was shot on the second occasion at 9.13am, and the quality and consistency of the blood in this latest photograph is consistent with there having been a delay of 47 minutes before senior officers handed over control of the bedroom scene to Cook, Davidson, Hammersley and Bird, from Oakey and Henderson at around 10.00am..
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PC Bird needs to be arrested and shown the image above and asked when he could have taken such a photograph?
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PC Bird needs to be arrested and shown the image above and asked when he could have taken such a photograph?
His bottle will go and he will spill the beans, that's what I think!
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OK, next approach find the police negative of this photograph and the other 9 images captured in sequence in the same roll of film!!
Boy, oh boy, things are starting to look up all of a sudden!!!
DC Henderson and DC Oakey have all the answers to this part of the conspiracy to doctor the crime scene of this multiple murder case...
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I feel a new job for Mr Smethurst to look into, seems like he's about to become more famous than he already is...
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I feel a new job for Mr Smethurst to look into, seems like he's about to become more famous than he already is...
I wonder what the other 9 consecutively taken photographs on that particular roll of film will show?
Might have to get the whiskey out..
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One thing of certainty is that PC Bird (from second SOC team which took control of the main bedroom crime scene after 10.00am) could not possibly have taken the first photographs showing the position of the guns barrel on the body of Sheila Caffell, positioned close to the collar of Sheila's nightdress, and that be the position and location of the gun on top of Sheila's body undisturbed from the alleged moment her body could have been found by 8.10am upstairs on the main bedroom floor - police officers were queing up to verify that no-one touched or had moved Sheila's body, nobody it seems had touched the Bible, or the rifle, they all made witness statements saying that Sheila's body had been found as shown by photographs taken by PC Bird after 10.00am..
Oh, right... But what of the position of Sheila's body, and the position of the guns barrel virtually resting against the left side of Sheila's neck way above the collar of her nightdress, when of course, DC Oakey took photograph no. 25? Hang on, what about the position of the gun when the police surgeon viewed Sheila's body at 8.44am when the rifle was laying alongside Sheila's body? Moreover, what about when Stan Jones had seen Sheila and June's bodies both laid on top of the bed, with the rifle resting on the bed in between both bodies? What about when the Commander of the firearms operation, PS Adams had visited the main bedroom scene at around 9.00am, when according to his version of events there was no gun with Sheila's body? What about the Coroner's Officer, PC Wright who attended the incident at about 9.30am and whilst viewing Sheila's body in the main bedroom and although he states that by that stage Sheila had been shot twice in the neck, the gun had been removed from her body by that stage?
Gun moved from the body?
Oh, it gets worse because the gun ends up resting against the inside main bedroom window as captured by photograph no.23 in sequence! This was followed by at least one disclosed photograph taken by DC Oakey (no.25) long before the second SOC team were handed the main bedroom crime scene by senior officers and the first SOC team (Oakey and Henderson)...
And so...
Any claim that Sheila's body, the gun, the Bible had remained undisturbed from the moment the raid team had first discovered her body there on the main bedroom floor by at the earliest 8.10am, in possession of that gun and the Bible alongside! Now, if Sheila's body had been one of only three bodies found upstairs by that stage, to be pondered was where was June Bambers body at that time? If her body was also one of the three bodies upstairs by 8.10am, then whose was the third body, Daniel Caffells, or Nicholas Caffells? If it was Daniels body then where was Nicholas' body, and vice versa?
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Just to recap, we have Sheila's body in different locations within the farmhouse dependant upon whichever police case file you might be reading from? (SC/688/85 or SC/786/85)
If the contents of the first part of the police investigation had been fully disclosed, Sheila's body would have been found downstairs in the kitchen along with Neville Bambers body she having only been shot once, her death being referred to as a suicide, as supported by the contents of the police radio log contents!
On the other hand, by reference to the second police file (SC/786/85) Sheila's body was found upstairs on the bedroom floor, shot twice and in possession of the rifle!
The current situation results in total confusion because both versions of the alleged true versions exist and contradict one another - evidence from the two separate parts of the police investigations (SC/688/85 and SC/786/85) place Sheila's body as found upstairs on the main bedroom floor, and downstairs in the kitchen along with the body of Neville Bamber! More worryingly, Sheila is found upstairs in possession of a rifle and she is dead as a result of two shots in the neck, whereas in the other account she was found downstairs and has only been shot once and her death is reported as being a suicide by 7.45am!
What are we to believe?
What would a jury make of such contradictions?
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Just to recap, we have Sheila's body in different locations within the farmhouse dependant upon whichever police case file you might be reading from? (SC/688/85 or SC/786/85)
If the contents of the first part of the police investigation had been fully disclosed, Sheila's body would have been found downstairs in the kitchen along with Neville Bambers body she having only been shot once, her death being referred to as a suicide, as supported by the contents of the police radio log contents!
Mike. The female spotted downstairs has been explained.
(http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9063.0;attach=50611)
What you need to explain is how police managed to shoot Sheila with .223 ammunition yet the wounds are consistent with a .22lr. A contact wound to Sheila's chin would result in an exit wound out the head and it will be very messy.
(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/22_penny_223-tfb.jpg)
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Just to recap, we have Sheila's body in different locations within the farmhouse dependant upon whichever police case file you might be reading from? (SC/688/85 or SC/786/85)
If the contents of the first part of the police investigation had been fully disclosed, Sheila's body would have been found downstairs in the kitchen along with Neville Bambers body she having only been shot once, her death being referred to as a suicide, as supported by the contents of the police radio log contents!
On the other hand, by reference to the second police file (SC/786/85) Sheila's body was found upstairs on the bedroom floor, shot twice and in possession of the rifle!
The current situation results in total confusion because both versions of the alleged true versions exist and contradict one another - evidence from the two separate parts of the police investigations (SC/688/85 and SC/786/85) place Sheila's body as found upstairs on the main bedroom floor, and downstairs in the kitchen along with the body of Neville Bamber! More worryingly, Sheila is found upstairs in possession of a rifle and she is dead as a result of two shots in the neck, whereas in the other account she was found downstairs and has only been shot once and her death is reported as being a suicide by 7.45am!
What are we to believe?
What would a jury make of such contradictions?
So a policeman mistakes -on first glance and from outside- the back view of a long haired, middle aged man for a woman. Another policeman sees only a long haired, middle aged man. It was then perceived, because one had believed the body to be female and the other had believed the body to be male, that -momentarily- there must have been two bodies. An error which was later rectified but has been used ad nauseum to try to convince people that there WERE two bodies and that police were attempting to cover it up.....................though it's never been satisfactorily explained why.
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Just to recap, we have Sheila's body in different locations within the farmhouse dependant upon whichever police case file you might be reading from? (SC/688/85 or SC/786/85)
If the contents of the first part of the police investigation had been fully disclosed, Sheila's body would have been found downstairs in the kitchen along with Neville Bambers body she having only been shot once, her death being referred to as a suicide, as supported by the contents of the police radio log contents!
On the other hand, by reference to the second police file (SC/786/85) Sheila's body was found upstairs on the bedroom floor, shot twice and in possession of the rifle!
The current situation results in total confusion because both versions of the alleged true versions exist and contradict one another - evidence from the two separate parts of the police investigations (SC/688/85 and SC/786/85) place Sheila's body as found upstairs on the main bedroom floor, and downstairs in the kitchen along with the body of Neville Bamber! More worryingly, Sheila is found upstairs in possession of a rifle and she is dead as a result of two shots in the neck, whereas in the other account she was found downstairs and has only been shot once and her death is reported as being a suicide by 7.45am!
What are we to believe?
What would a jury make of such contradictions?
Sandwiched in-between these two quite extraordinary accounts are the linking episodes, where the police surgeon refers to Sheila's body as being on the far side of the bed at 8.44am! We have Stan Jones account that when he saw Sheila's body it was laid on top of the bed and laid on the bed beside her was June Bambers body! The rifle was resting on the bed in between the bodies of both victims, and Sheila had a Bible on her chest, she only had one shot in her neck by that stage! We had PS Adams saying that when he viewed Sheila's body before leaving the scene shortly after 9.00am that there was no gun with the body when he viewed Sheila's body at that time! Then we had the Coroner's Officer, PC Wright, who at 9.30am, States that by that time the gun had already been removed from the body of Sheila, but that she had two bullet wounds in her neck! Then we have the rifle resting at the main bedroom window as shown in crime scene photograph no.23, before it was taken for staging purposes and Sheila Caffells death scene was fabricated there on the main bedroom floor by senior officers in the course of carrying about their duties involving 'informatives', so that by the time senior officers and the first team of SOCO's left the scene at 10.00am, and had handed over the main bedroom crime scene at that time, Sheila's body was on the bedroom floor in possession of the gun, with the Bible that had previously been on her chest whilst she was laid on top of the bed earlier, was now alongside her upper and outside right arm?
How peculiar, and also of some significance how two bloodied fingermarks surrounded the upper bullet entry wound as if some would be good Samaritan had attempted to stem the flow of blood once that second shot beneath the point of Sheila's chin had been received in an attempt to save Sheila's life, rather than as in Jeremy's case it had been an intention to terminate it!..
What chance it was a coppers two fingers which tried to stem the flow of blood immediately after Sheila had been shot on the second occasion?
Had Sheila used two of her own fingers likewise?
Or, had Jeremy the killer tried to stem that flow of blood from that what turned out to be the critical shot which killed Sheila off?
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Sandwiched in-between these two quite extraordinary accounts are the linking episodes, where the police surgeon refers to Sheila's body as being on the far side of the bed at 8.44am! We have Stan Jones account that when he saw Sheila's body it was laid on top of the bed and laid on the bed beside her was June Bambers body! The rifle was resting on the bed in between the bodies of both victims, and Sheila had a Bible on her chest, she only had one shot in her neck by that stage! We had PS Adams saying that when he viewed Sheila's body before leaving the scene shortly after 9.00am that there was no gun with the body when he viewed Sheila's body at that time! Then we had the Coroner's Officer, PC Wright, who at 9.30am, States that by that time the gun had already been removed from the body of Sheila, but that she had two bullet wounds in her neck! Then we have the rifle resting at the main bedroom window as shown in crime scene photograph no.23, before it was taken for staging purposes and Sheila Caffells death scene was fabricated there on the main bedroom floor by senior officers in the course of carrying about their duties involving 'informatives', so that by the time senior officers and the first team of SOCO's left the scene at 10.00am, and had handed over the main bedroom crime scene at that time, Sheila's body was on the bedroom floor in possession of the gun, with the Bible that had previously been on her chest whilst she was laid on top of the bed earlier, was now alongside her upper and outside right arm?
How peculiar, and also of some significance how two bloodied fingermarks surrounded the upper bullet entry wound as if some would be good Samaritan had attempted to stem the flow of blood once that second shot beneath the point of Sheila's chin had been received in an attempt to save Sheila's life, rather than as in Jeremy's case it had been an intention to terminate it!..
What chance it was a coppers two fingers which tried to stem the flow of blood immediately after Sheila had been shot on the second occasion?
Had Sheila used two of her own fingers likewise?
Or, had Jeremy the killer tried to stem that flow of blood from that what turned out to be the critical shot which killed Sheila off?
Moreover, let us not forget that prior to Sheila's body being staged in the throes of death on the main bedroom floor, in possession of the gun, that her body had been turned on its right hand side in the recovery position (see report of Herbert Leon McDonnell), before being rolled into the supine position and the gun planted with Sheila's body - so who would go to such lengths of placing Sheila's body in that recovery position there on the bedroom floor?
Sheila herself?
Cops who were trying to keep her alive?
Or, the killer Jeremy Bamber who by all accounts had wanted to kill Sheila and blame her for what he had done?
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Seems to me, two highly significant indicators as to where culpability of having shot Sheila Caffells dead, there on the main bedroom floor lies!
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Seems to me, two highly significant indicators as to where culpability of having shot Sheila Caffells dead, there on the main bedroom floor lies!
(a) - the attempt to stem the blood from flowing from the upper fatal wound immediately after that second fatal shot had been, was inflicted, and
(b) - the rolling over of Sheila's body onto its right side in the recovery position!
Somebody tried desperately hard to try and keep Sheila Caffells alive!, The person or persons who took these actions intended not to kill her, they didn't want her to die, and Jeremy Bamber had he been the person who had planned to kill his sister and lay the blame at her feet would surely not do quite the opposite of what the prosecution alleged he had intended to do!
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Moreover, let us not forget that prior to Sheila's body being staged in the throes of death on the main bedroom floor, in possession of the gun, that her body had been turned on its right hand side in the recovery position (see report of Herbert Leon McDonnell), before being rolled into the supine position and the gun planted with Sheila's body - so who would go to such lengths of placing Sheila's body in that recovery position there on the bedroom floor?
Sheila herself?
Cops who were trying to keep her alive?
Or, the killer Jeremy Bamber who by all accounts had wanted to kill Sheila and blame her for what he had done?
Herbert Leon McDonnell has recanted on his 1992 conclusions and now believes it could be suicide.
Herbert Leon McDonnell came to the conclusion of murder in 1992 based on incomplete information.
You cannot use his 1992 conclusions while simultaneously ignoring his revised 2009 conclusions.
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(a) - the attempt to stem the blood from flowing from the upper fatal wound immediately after that second fatal shot had been, was inflicted, and
(b) - the rolling over of Sheila's body onto its right side in the recovery position!
Somebody tried desperately hard to try and keep Sheila Caffells alive!, The person or persons who took these actions intended not to kill her, they didn't want her to die, and Jeremy Bamber had he been the person who had planned to kill his sister and lay the blame at her feet would surely not do quite the opposite of what the prosecution alleged he had intended to do!
The conclusions I have reached in this matter give a clear indication that had Jeremy Bamber been the evil cold blooded murderer that the prosecutions case sought to portray him as, that surely such a callous killer would not have tried to save Sheila's life by performing actions (a) and (b)...
Whoever performed these actions did so within short moments after Sheila got shot the second time and died as a result of being shot on that occasion! This wasn't cops trying to stem blood flowing from a fatal wound in her neck which had been inflicted as long ago as prior to 3.52am (over 5 hours previously) that same morning! This was a cop, or cops taking action to try and save the life of somebody they had just shot, or if I bend the truth a bit, who had just shot herself!
Just look at the evidence in that photograph and see how fresh blood flow from the upper bullet wound overflows the two bloodied fingermarks (a), and the presence of pooled blood on the bedroom carpet beneath the open pages of the Bible which someone placed there in an attempt to conceal the blood which had stained that part of the bedroom carpet whilst Sheila's body had been laid in the recovery position upon its right side!
Who planted that Bible there, intent on trying to hide Sheila's blood on that part of the main bedroom carpet?
Did Sheila place the Bible there?
How about Jeremy?
No, the only people with an interest of concealing such a vital piece of evidence were the police themselves! They didn't want anyone to know that they were responsible for shooting Sheila Caffells dead on the main bedroom floor! They didn't want anyone to know that they had placed Sheila's body in the recovery position on its right side! They didn't want anyone to know that an officer had placed two of his own fingers against the upper bullet entry hole in an attempt to stop or slow down the rate of escaping blood that began gushing out when they shot Sheila Dead in a training exercise tragedy which was being carried out on the footting that the victim was already pronounced as being dead!
The words of Stan Jones which he told the COLP investigators becomes somewhat poignant at this juncture - 'Sheila looked so peaceful like she was simply asleep'!
Yes, she was not dead when the police surgeon, Dr Craig had pronounced her as being dead at 8.44am, her body at that time 'on the far side of the bed', it matters not if any of you choose to believe her body was already on the bedroom floor by that stage (8.44am), because the actions of the police in rolling her body into the recovery position upon its right side, and the placing of two strong fingers against the fresh wound inflicted by a bullet fired by way of the anshuzt rifle the police themselves had been manipulating upon her body in a training exercise, to try and stem the flow of blood in an effort to keep Sheila alive, tells it's own story!
Jeremy Bamber has told the truth all along, he did not shoot dead his sister on the main bedroom floor and he did not stage his sister's death scene to try and make police think his sister had taken her own life! The police staged Sheila's death scene to try and make it look like she had killed herself!
This is the correct interpretation involving the circumstances surrounding the death of Sheila Caffells on the main bedroom floor!
Jeremy Bamber must be released immediately, and his position in jail replaced by all those responsible for framing him for these killings, and all of whom are all respinsibke for conspiracy to pervert the course of Justice!
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Herbert Leon McDonnell has recanted on his 1992 conclusions and now believes it could be suicide.
Herbert Leon McDonnell came to the conclusion of murder in 1992 based on incomplete information.
You cannot use his 1992 conclusions while simultaneously ignoring his revised 2009 conclusions.
Unfortunately, I can seek to rely on parts of his conclusions contained in his 1992 report!
He explains, how the triangular bloodstain in the region of Sheila's right shoulder, and right armpit, of her nightdress got created, it is consistent with Sheila's body having been rolled into the recovery position before someone rolled her onto her back and staged her death scene with the rifle in her possession! Someone obviously did this and Sheila couldn't have done any of this by herself because she was dead as soon as the second shot was inflicted! With respect Herbert Leon McDonnell's latest conclusions do not prevent for the possibility that police had shot Sheila and then taken Swift measures to try and rectify their mistake! Similarly, it's possible that cops took the measures described in the knowledge that moments beforehand that Sheila could have just shot herself!
What makes me think this did not happen, is that if this was the case, cops would have simply told the truth, they would have said that within moments of Shooting herself a second time, they had placed her body in the recovery position and admisteted CPR, and placed fingers against the fatal bullet entry wound in an attempt to keep Sheila alive! They would not then proceed to stage Sheila's death scene as a suicide, even if it had been a suicide!!
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Unfortunately, I can seek to rely on parts of his conclusions contained in his 1992 report!
He explains, how the triangular bloodstain in the region of Sheila's right shoulder, and right armpit, of her nightdress got created, it is consistent with Sheila's body having been rolled into the recovery position before someone rolled her onto her back and staged her death scene with the rifle in her possession! Someone obviously did this and Sheila couldn't have done any of this by herself because she was dead as soon as the second shot was inflicted! With respect Herbert Leon McDonnell's latest conclusions do not prevent for the possibility that police had shot Sheila and then taken Swift measures to try and rectify their mistake! Similarly, it's possible that cops took the measures described in the knowledge that moments beforehand that Sheila could have just shot herself!
What makes me think this did not happen, is that if this was the case, cops would have simply told the truth, they would have said that within moments of Shooting herself a second time, they had placed her body in the recovery position and admisteted CPR, and placed fingers against the fatal bullet entry wound in an attempt to keep Sheila alive! They would not then proceed to stage Sheila's death scene as a suicide, even if it had been a suicide!!
Set as a backdrop to these possibilities, are the conflicting locations where Sheila's body was found in the first instance, dependant upon whether an enquirer relies solely upon the evidence contained in the first part of the police investigation, police file SC/688/85, where it states categorically that Sheila was reported found and dead by way of a suicide downstairs in the kitchen, she having been shot only once! Hers being the dead female body found upon entry along with the body of Neville Bamber, facts which are backed up by timed police radio log messages at 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am, and 7.45am. A further three bodies found upstairs in two bedrooms, five dead in total!
Or..
By way of a reliance upon the second part of the police investigation, in police file SC/786/85, that her body was found in possession of the rifle on the main bedroom floor, shot twice!
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Of course, there is the added complication of WPC Julia Jeapes seeing the rifle concerned resting at the box room window (a sighting also verified by PC Brown) which was noted just as the six man raid team were commencing their approach to enter the farmhouse intent upon bringing the ongoing seige to a conclusion! At best it would be safe to assume that the said rifle was there at the box room window at about 7.15am, or shortly afterward....
Now, if Sheila had already been shot and killed by that stage, how did that rifle get from the box room window into the possession of Sheila Caffells on the main bedroom floor in time for the armed officers to discover Sheila's body there grasping it by let's say on the one hand by either 8.10am, or as the case may be, the time when DC Oakey took photograph no.25 which is the first photograph that has been disclosed showing that rifle in Sheila's possession?
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Of course, there is the added complication of WPC Julia Jeapes seeing the rifle concerned resting at the box room window (a sighting also verified by PC Brown) which was noted just as the six man raid team were commencing their approach to enter the farmhouse intent upon bringing the ongoing seige to a conclusion! At best it would be safe to assume that the said rifle was there at the box room window at about 7.15am, or shortly afterward....
Now, if Sheila had already been shot and killed by that stage, how did that rifle get from the box room window into the possession of Sheila Caffells on the main bedroom floor in time for the armed officers to discover Sheila's body there grasping it by let's say on the one hand by either 8.10am, or as the case may be, the time when DC Oakey took photograph no.25 which is the first photograph that has been disclosed showing that rifle in Sheila's possession?
In those circumstances, Jeremy Bamber cannot have been responsible for staging his sister's death scene, using that rifle!
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In those circumstances, Jeremy Bamber cannot have been responsible for staging his sister's death scene, using that rifle!
Any would be slueth worth their own weight in salt, might also contemplate how oily residue from the rifles ejection port and a small hole both of which were found to be present on the left hand side of Sheila's nightdress got there, and what relation this had with the sighting of the rifle earlier at the box room window, and by the time the same rifle ended up in Sheila's possession in time for DC Oakey to photograph it there by the time he got around to taking photograph no.25?
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All the problems involving different exhibit references for the same item have arisen because of the existence of two different police files (SC/688/85 and SC/786/85)...
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All the problems involving different exhibit references for the same item have arisen because of the existence of two different police files (SC/688/85 and SC/786/85)...
Let's take the exhibit references for the hand swabs taken from Sheila:-
SC/688/85 - DRH/44 Lab' item no. 17 (rejected)
SC/786/85 - DRH/33 Lab' item no.75 (resubmitted)
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Let's now look at the Bible:-
SC/688/85 - DRH/33
SC/786/85 - DRH/44
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Anyone with a bit of intelligence can work out what game these cops were playing when they kept altering and changing the exhibit references of key items of evidential value, between both police files!
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Anyone with a bit of intelligence can work out what game these cops were playing when they kept altering and changing the exhibit references of key items of evidential value, between both police files!
Next, the SM:-
SC/688/85 - SBJ/1, SJ/1(22) and DB/1(23)
SC/786/85 - DRB/1(22)
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Let's now look at bullet PV/20
SC/688/85 - a piece of badly fragmented bullet recovered from vertebrae inside neck of Sheila Caffells during autopsy performed on 7th August 1985
SC/786/85 - a whole bullet as of 20th September 1985
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Now, let's look at the identity of the SM inside which was found the key flake of blood by ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, at Lab' on 12th September 1985
SC/688/85 - DB/1 (23) submitted to Lab on 30th August 1985
SC/786/85 - DRB/1 (22) submitted to Lab on 20th September 1985 (court exhibit 9)
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Now, let's look at 14 spent cartridge cases believed to have originally been part of the batch of 25 spent cartridge cases of the crime scene ammunition:-
SC/688/85 - MDF/1 (submitted to Lab' on 30th August 1985)
SC/786/85 - MDF/100 (12th September 1985)
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Now, let's look a Malcolm Fletcher's 'Cloth pull through test of the rifles Barrel':-
SC/688/85 - not recorded
SC/786/85 - MDF/1 (12th September 1985)
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Consider the following features of evidence:-
There was only ever just the one SM. The relatives found it at the scene (whf) on the 10th August 1985, and after it was handed to the police by Peter Eaton on 12th August 1985, it led the following charmed life in the possession of Essex police, the lab' from that date until it was eventually produced as a court exhibit (9) during the trial of Regina versus Jeremy Bamber, at Chelmsford Crown Court, in October 1986:-
The SM fell into the possession of Essex police at a time when the police file was SC/688/85, it was subsequently taken to the lab' to be provisionally examined by Glynis Howard on 13th August 1985, under an identifying mark of SJ/1 (Lab' item number 22)! It should be noted that to all intents and purposes between 13th and 30th August 1985, Lab' item number 23 was vacated without explanation, the vacating of which helped Essex police and their Lab' collaborators, to introduce either a second SM, the Brno bolt action rifle, or a flake of dried blood which David Boutflour had scraped off the outside of a SM using a razor blade!
Involved in this police investigation at different times, were key exhibits which got introduced in a substitution process of exhibits, the purpose of which has been to clone the substituted item with a replacement and to proceed from that point forward as though such an item had always been the same item throughout its lifetime as an exhibit! I am here to inform you that many such items did not start of life as the exhibit in question from the outset, some were introduced once the police file changed from SC/688/85 to SC/786/85, or later on...
I would like to take this opportunity to provide background information about the SM bearing the exhibit reference of DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9, the vehicle with which the key blood group and paint evidence got introduced into the case!
The SM (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) was not the SM inside which was supposedly found the key blood group evidence attributable uniquely to Sheila Caffell, allegedly found in the form of a flake of dried blood that was trapped between two internal barrel plates of a SM which had been dismantled at the Lab' in Huntingdon on the 12th September 1985! Well, I can categorically confirm that the SM inside which the key blood flake had been found, was definitely not the SM (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) because this particular SM was still in the possession of Essex police, on the key date in Question...
So, if the crucial flake of dried blood could not possibly have been found inside the SM (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) it can only lead to two other possible explanations as to where the key flake of dried blood had originated from:-
(1) - it was found inside a second SM that Essex police had submitted to the lab' on the 30th August 1985, under an exhibit reference of DB/1, (23), or that (2) - exhibit DB/1 (23) was the actual flake of dried blood which David Boutflour had scraped off the enbd of a SM, using a razor blade!
In order to get a better picture of what probably did occur, we need to look carefully at the facts surrounding how Ann Eaton still had the SM, (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) in her possession as late as the 11th September 1985? Well, we know she did, and therefore, there would have to have been two different SM's which between themselves, the cops, the experts at the lab' and the relatives manipulated in such a way that it only appeared as if there only ever could have been one SM...
Well, if there was only the One SM, as attested by the relatives, cops and experts, one thing for certain must be that cops must have given the SM back to the relatives for one reason or another, and that there simply was no SM at the Lab' on the 12th September 1985, for the ballistic expert to find a flake of blood trapped between two of its baffle plates!! Therefore, I have concluded that it must have been the flake of blood which David Boutflour had scraped off a SM previously!
This flake of blood must have been sent to the Lab' at Huntingdon, by Ron Cook, who in turn had retrieved it from David Boutflour!
After the flake (DB/1, 23) arrived at the lab', it was analysed and it produced key blood group evidence (A, EAP BA, AK1, and HP 2-1)!
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Consider the following features of evidence:-
There was only ever just the one SM. The relatives found it at the scene (whf) on the 10th August 1985, and after it was handed to the police by Peter Eaton on 12th August 1985, it led the following charmed life in the possession of Essex police, the lab' from that date until it was eventually produced as a court exhibit (9) during the trial of Regina versus Jeremy Bamber, at Chelmsford Crown Court, in October 1986:-
The SM fell into the possession of Essex police at a time when the police file was SC/688/85, it was subsequently taken to the lab' to be provisionally examined by Glynis Howard on 13th August 1985, under an identifying mark of SJ/1 (Lab' item number 22)! It should be noted that to all intents and purposes between 13th and 30th August 1985, Lab' item number 23 was vacated without explanation, the vacating of which helped Essex police and their Lab' collaborators, to introduce either a second SM, the Brno bolt action rifle, or a flake of dried blood which David Boutflour had scraped off the outside of a SM using a razor blade!
Involved in this police investigation at different times, were key exhibits which got introduced in a substitution process of exhibits, the purpose of which has been to clone the substituted item with a replacement and to proceed from that point forward as though such an item had always been the same item throughout its lifetime as an exhibit! I am here to inform you that many such items did not start of life as the exhibit in question from the outset, some were introduced once the police file changed from SC/688/85 to SC/786/85, or later on...
I would like to take this opportunity to provide background information about the SM bearing the exhibit reference of DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9, the vehicle with which the key blood group and paint evidence got introduced into the case!
The SM (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) was not the SM inside which was supposedly found the key blood group evidence attributable uniquely to Sheila Caffell, allegedly found in the form of a flake of dried blood that was trapped between two internal barrel plates of a SM which had been dismantled at the Lab' in Huntingdon on the 12th September 1985! Well, I can categorically confirm that the SM inside which the key blood flake had been found, was definitely not the SM (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) because this particular SM was still in the possession of Essex police, on the key date in Question...
So, if the crucial flake of dried blood could not possibly have been found inside the SM (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) it can only lead to two other possible explanations as to where the key flake of dried blood had originated from:-
(1) - it was found inside a second SM that Essex police had submitted to the lab' on the 30th August 1985, under an exhibit reference of DB/1, (23), or that (2) - exhibit DB/1 (23) was the actual flake of dried blood which David Boutflour had scraped off the enbd of a SM, using a razor blade!
In order to get a better picture of what probably did occur, we need to look carefully at the facts surrounding how Ann Eaton still had the SM, (DRB/1, 22, court exhibit no.9) in her possession as late as the 11th September 1985? Well, we know she did, and therefore, there would have to have been two different SM's which between themselves, the cops, the experts at the lab' and the relatives manipulated in such a way that it only appeared as if there only ever could have been one SM...
Well, if there was only the One SM, as attested by the relatives, cops and experts, one thing for certain must be that cops must have given the SM back to the relatives for one reason or another, and that there simply was no SM at the Lab' on the 12th September 1985, for the ballistic expert to find a flake of blood trapped between two of its baffle plates!! Therefore, I have concluded that it must have been the flake of blood which David Boutflour had scraped off a SM previously!
This flake of blood must have been sent to the Lab' at Huntingdon, by Ron Cook, who in turn had retrieved it from David Boutflour!
After the flake (DB/1, 23) arrived at the lab', it was analysed and it produced key blood group evidence (A, EAP BA, AK1, and HP 2-1)!
The ballistic expert, Fletcher, the blood experts Howard and Hayward, Ron Cook (SOCO), the relatives, all lied about the key flake of dried blood being found inside a SM at the Lab' on the 12th September, 1985, because there was no silencer at Huntingdon Lab' on that date, at least not the SM that David Boutflour claimed he had found in a gun cupboard in the den on 10th August, 1985. This is provable by virtue of the fact that relatives still had possession and control of 'that' (DRB/1) SM right up until 11th September, 1985, that Ann Eaton handed 'that' SM to DC Oakley on that date! It must follow therefore, that the SM the relatives found could not already be at Huntingdon Lab' from 30th August, 1985, onward...
If the SM the relatives found at the scene on 10th August 1985, was already at the Lab' and it had been there from 30th August 1985, then Ann Eaton could not still have had possession of the same SM by 11th September 1985, to enable her at she was at pains to do so, and hand 'it' to DC Oakley 11 days afterwards!!!
We know that the SM Ann Eaton gave to DC Oakley on 'that' date (11th September 1985) was the SM produced during the trial as court exhibit 9, bearing the exhibit reference, 'DRB/1', it did not get submitted to the Lab' at Huntingdon so the flekeof dried blood alluded to by Fletcher in terms that he had found this trapped between baffle plates of a SM he had in his possession, which he dismantled at the Lab' on 12th September, 1985, I don't believe Fletcher had a SM at the Lab' on the occasion he says he had it, at least not the 'DRB/1' SM, for the reasons given!
The ballistic expert, the blood expert, the cops and relatives have simply attributed the blood results obtained from the flake to a SM the blood could not necessarily have been found inside, what appears to have happened is that Cops have been persuaded by David Boutflour, that he scraped the flake off 'that' silencer, without actually knowing that what Boutflour was telling them was true or not!
This should not be dismissed easily, because there came a time in September 1985, that Essex police believed that relatives were trying to frame Jeremy Bamber as the killer!
They overcame this suspicion by introducing fake evidence which supposedly proved that a SM (not a flake of dried blood) had been submitted to the Lab' as exhibit 'DB/1' (23) on the 30th August 1985! They faked the claim that Fletcher had dismantled it on the 12th September 1985, and discovered the dried flake of blood trapped between baffle plates of the silencer David Boutflour had found a month previously! But it was all a lie, cops submitted the flake which David Boutflour claimed he had scraped off a SM using a razor blade!
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David Boutflour needs to be arrested and interviewed under caution for tampering with the SM after its recovery!
He needs to be interviewed about the flake of dried blood he says he scraped off the outside of that SM!
He needs to say what happened to that flake!
If he gave it to police when did he give it to them?
Who did he give it to?
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David Boutflour needs to be arrested and interviewed under caution for tampering with the SM after its recovery!
He needs to be interviewed about the flake of dried blood he says he scraped off the outside of that SM!
He needs to say what happened to that flake!
If he gave it to police when did he give it to them?
Who did he give it to?
It appears that Essex police took possession of 'that' flake of dried blood and they sent it off to the Lab' at Huntingdon...
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It appears that Essex police took possession of 'that' flake of dried blood and they sent it off to the Lab' at Huntingdon...
So, we need to hear the truth, we need to hear it from the horses mouth, when David Boutflour handed over that flake to cops?
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We need Essex police to try and be honest, for once!
When did David Boutflour tell you about the flake of dried blood and when did he hand 'it' over to you?
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We know, that David Boutflour did not contact Essex police to tell them that he had recovered the SM to the anshuzt rifle, until the 12th September 1985...
His taking of the flake from 'this' SM (DRB/1), could not have been handed over to cops any time prior to that date! What this means is that on the 30th August 1985, exhibit DB/1 (23) could have originated from any source, that 'it' was an extremely suspicious feature of the prosecution's case against Jeremy Bamber...
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David Boutflour gave dodgy evidence, as did his sister, Ann Eaton, and their father, Robert Woodwind Boutflour...
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One lesson that I have learned as a result of my experiences at the hands of crooked cops, bias CPS and despicable prosecution witness accounts, is that a jury will treat any evidence given by this motley crew of liars, and disbelieve anything a defendant or his / her witnesses might have to say!
There's no thing, such as a fair trial...
A defendant is guilty until proven innocent!
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I can't believe that David Boutflour got away Scot free with him having been known to have tampered with the SM, and the court which tried Bamber, did not exclude the SM and everything associated with or to it?
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I can't believe that David Boutflour got away Scot free with him having been known to have tampered with the SM, and the court which tried Bamber, did not exclude the SM and everything associated with or to it?
Let's get the facts right so that it is on record for all and everyone to see!
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Let's get the facts right so that it is on record for all and everyone to see!
David Boutflour, tried to unscrew the end cap off the silencer, once 'it' was back at Ann and Peter Eaton's house after they took it there from the scene at whf!
He put the Sm's end cap in the palm of his right hand, or he used the fingers of his right hand and he exerted pressure to try to unscrew it, so that he 'could look inside it'...
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David Boutflour, tried to unscrew the end cap off the silencer, once 'it' was back at Ann and Peter Eaton's house after they took it there from the scene at whf!
He put the Sm's end cap in the palm of his right hand, or he used the fingers of his right hand and he exerted pressure to try to unscrew it, so that he 'could look inside it'...
Now...
If there was a sticky jam like substance on the silencers end cap, why would Boutflour risk damaging the integrity of the SM and the Jam like substance 3 days after the shootings?
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Now...
If there was a sticky jam like substance on the silencers end cap, why would Boutflour risk damaging the integrity of the SM and the Jam like substance 3 days after the shootings?
Why wouldn't the prosecution inform the jury, that which David Boutflour by his own admission, was responsible for doing, and 'had' done?
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Even by what we know at present (that Boutflour tampered with the integrity of the SM by (a) trying to unscrew the SM's end cap, and (b) that he physically removed dried blood in the form of a flake from the SM), beggars belief, that cops, Lab' experts, and the prosecution during the trial, mentioned nothing whatsoever about these dastardly and wicked deeds!!!
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Even by what we know at present (that Boutflour tampered with the integrity of the SM by (a) trying to unscrew the SM's end cap, and (b) that he physically removed dried blood in the form of a flake from the SM), beggars belief, that cops, Lab' experts, and the prosecution during the trial, mentioned nothing whatsoever about these dastardly and wicked deeds!!!
Quite clearly, the SM evidence, and everything associated with or to it, should have been deemed inadmissable by the trial judge had 'he' known what had taken place!!!
Instead, Boutflour, Essex Police, Lab' experts and the prosecution remained tight lipped thus preventing the court which was trying the matter, from exercising it's power to exclude all this / that evidence...
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Quite clearly, the SM evidence, and everything associated with or to it, should have been deemed inadmissable by the trial judge had 'he' known what had taken place!!!
Instead, Boutflour, Essex Police, Lab' experts and the prosecution remained tight lipped thus preventing the court which was trying the matter, from exercising it's power to exclude all this / that evidence...
Surely there can't be a soul that believes the SM, blood and paint evidence isn't a piece of fabricated evidence, introduced and clearly designed to improve the prosecution's case?
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Every defendant, is entitled to receive a fair trial - there was certainly nothing fair about the introduction of the silencer evidence as a vehicle by which to introduce blood and paint evidence in this prosecution!
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Unfortunately, I can seek to rely on parts of his conclusions contained in his 1992 report!
He explains, how the triangular bloodstain in the region of Sheila's right shoulder, and right armpit, of her nightdress got created, it is consistent with Sheila's body having been rolled into the recovery position before someone rolled her onto her back and staged her death scene with the rifle in her possession! Someone obviously did this and Sheila couldn't have done any of this by herself because she was dead as soon as the second shot was inflicted! With respect Herbert Leon McDonnell's latest conclusions do not prevent for the possibility that police had shot Sheila and then taken Swift measures to try and rectify their mistake! Similarly, it's possible that cops took the measures described in the knowledge that moments beforehand that Sheila could have just shot herself!
What makes me think this did not happen, is that if this was the case, cops would have simply told the truth, they would have said that within moments of Shooting herself a second time, they had placed her body in the recovery position and admisteted CPR, and placed fingers against the fatal bullet entry wound in an attempt to keep Sheila alive! They would not then proceed to stage Sheila's death scene as a suicide, even if it had been a suicide!!
Herbert Leon Mcdonnell concluded in 1992 that the large stain around Sheila's arm pit was a result of build up of blood as Sheila touched the wound on her neck. Creating a temporary build up of blood until Sheila's arm fell back.
Herbert was wrong for two reasons.
1. That wound with a smear was instantly fatal. Thus Sheila could not have touched it.
2. If you look closely it seems consistent with being caused by the rifle end.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7805.msg369805.html#msg369805 (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7805.msg369805.html#msg369805)
Furthermore there are many variables involved. Was Sheila sitting up or standing up as this poor guy?
https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck (https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck) -NSFL
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Herbert Leon Mcdonnell concluded in 1992 that the large stain around Sheila's arm pit was a result of build up of blood as Sheila touched the wound on her neck. Creating a temporary build up of blood until Sheila's arm fell back.
Herbert was wrong for two reasons.
1. That wound with a smear was instantly fatal. Thus Sheila could not have touched it.
2. If you look closely it seems consistent with being caused by the rifle end.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7805.msg369805.html#msg369805 (http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7805.msg369805.html#msg369805)
Furthermore there are many variables involved. Was Sheila sitting up or standing up as this poor guy?
https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck (https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck) -NSFL
The truth of the matter was that the cops rolled Sheila into the recovery position on her right side at which time blood pooled in the void of her upper right arm! The triangular stain was created when cops rolled her body onto its back, placed the rifle in Sheila's possession and placed her right hand on the gun! It was the movement of her right hand onto the gun which released the trapped blood causing the triangular bloodstain!
Of course, MacDonnell never commented of the two bloody fingermarks which someone had pressed against the fatal bullet entry hole to try and stop blood from pouring out! Sheila herself couldn't have done that herself with death being instantaneous! Cops did it, there can be no other explanation...
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Herbert Leon McDonnell has recanted on his 1992 conclusions and now believes it could be suicide.
Herbert Leon McDonnell came to the conclusion of murder in 1992 based on incomplete information.
You cannot use his 1992 conclusions while simultaneously ignoring his revised 2009 conclusions.
(Once again), please provide a source for the 2009 conclusion?
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(Once again), please provide a source for the 2009 conclusion?
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It's here Caroline. I'd be interested in the clock face if anyone could blow the picture up? https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free
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It's here Caroline. I'd be interested in the clock face if anyone could blow the picture up? https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free
Which picture Steve?
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It's here Caroline. I'd be interested in the clock face if anyone could blow the picture up? https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free
Dr MacDonell, who testified in the OJ Simpson murder case and was involved in the investigations into the assassinations of US Senator Robert F Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr, told Channel 4 News: “From the bloodstain patterns the victim’s arms must have been moved.
“Bloodstains on the floor showed that other objects were also moved. I concluded that it had to have been murder because of the two shots under her chin. (But) Some time later I learned that the pathologists concluded that she could have fired both shots so I now believe it could have been suicide as well.”
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If a pathologist hired by Bamber says Sheila's contact shot could have been without the silencer, of course MacDonell will say Sheila could have shot herself. Anyone would.
When hired by Bamber MacDonell said Sheila must have been murdered & asked Bamber who else it could have been. Bamber said he didn't know.
Bamber then started focusing on the silencer evidence.
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It's here Caroline. I'd be interested in the clock face if anyone could blow the picture up? https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free
Talk about a load of technicality attempts. Six years later they have all come to nothing.
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Herbert Leon McDonnell has recanted on his 1992 conclusions and now believes it could be suicide.
Herbert Leon McDonnell came to the conclusion of murder in 1992 based on incomplete information.
You cannot use his 1992 conclusions while simultaneously ignoring his revised 2009 conclusions.
That simply mean he doesn't know either way.
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It's here Caroline. I'd be interested in the clock face if anyone could blow the picture up? https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free
Thanks Steve - which picture of the clock face do you mean?
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Which picture Steve?
It must be my eyesight but there was a reference to the clock face showing 10:20am. Maybe it's a different picture?
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If we had a timeline of when the photographs were taken and who saw what when we might fare better.
There is a timeline of sorts here: http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/alibis-1?tmpl=%2Fsystem%2Fapp%2Ftemplates%2Fprint%2F&showPrintDialog=1