Jeremy's belief, - relatives intent on getting hands on anything of value!!!

[mike tesko]

I can't believe that David Boutflour got away Scot free with him having been known to have tampered with the SM, and the court which tried Bamber, did not exclude the SM and everything associated with or to it?

[mike tesko]

I can't believe that David Boutflour got away Scot free with him having been known to have tampered with the SM, and the court which tried Bamber, did not exclude the SM and everything associated with or to it?

Let's get the facts right so that it is on record for all and everyone to see!

[mike tesko]

Let's get the facts right so that it is on record for all and everyone to see!

David Boutflour, tried to unscrew the end cap off the silencer, once 'it' was back at Ann and Peter Eaton's house after they took it there from the scene at whf!

He put the Sm's end cap in the palm of his right hand, or he used the fingers of his right hand and he exerted pressure to try to unscrew it, so that he 'could look inside it'...

[mike tesko]

David Boutflour, tried to unscrew the end cap off the silencer, once 'it' was back at Ann and Peter Eaton's house after they took it there from the scene at whf!

He put the Sm's end cap in the palm of his right hand, or he used the fingers of his right hand and he exerted pressure to try to unscrew it, so that he 'could look inside it'...

Now...

If there was a sticky jam like substance on the silencers end cap, why would Boutflour risk damaging the integrity of the SM and the Jam like substance 3 days after the shootings?

[mike tesko]

Now...

If there was a sticky jam like substance on the silencers end cap, why would Boutflour risk damaging the integrity of the SM and the Jam like substance 3 days after the shootings?

Why wouldn't the prosecution inform the jury, that which David Boutflour by his own admission, was responsible for doing, and 'had' done?

[mike tesko]

Even by what we know at present (that Boutflour tampered with the integrity of the SM by (a) trying to unscrew the SM's end cap, and (b) that he physically removed dried blood in the form of a flake from the SM), beggars belief, that cops, Lab' experts, and the prosecution during the trial, mentioned nothing whatsoever about these dastardly and wicked deeds!!!

[mike tesko]

Even by what we know at present (that Boutflour tampered with the integrity of the SM by (a) trying to unscrew the SM's end cap, and (b) that he physically removed dried blood in the form of a flake from the SM), beggars belief, that cops, Lab' experts, and the prosecution during the trial, mentioned nothing whatsoever about these dastardly and wicked deeds!!!

Quite clearly, the SM evidence, and everything associated with or to it, should have been deemed inadmissable by the trial judge had 'he' known what had taken place!!!

Instead, Boutflour, Essex Police, Lab' experts and the prosecution remained tight lipped thus preventing the court which was trying the matter, from exercising it's power to exclude all this / that evidence...

[mike tesko]

Quite clearly, the SM evidence, and everything associated with or to it, should have been deemed inadmissable by the trial judge had 'he' known what had taken place!!!

Instead, Boutflour, Essex Police, Lab' experts and the prosecution remained tight lipped thus preventing the court which was trying the matter, from exercising it's power to exclude all this / that evidence...

Surely there can't be a soul that believes the SM, blood and paint evidence isn't a piece of fabricated evidence, introduced and clearly designed to improve the prosecution's case?

[mike tesko]

Every defendant, is entitled to receive a fair trial - there was certainly nothing fair about the introduction of the silencer evidence as a vehicle by which to introduce blood and paint evidence in this prosecution!

[David1819]

Unfortunately, I can seek to rely on parts of his conclusions contained in his 1992 report!

He explains, how the triangular bloodstain in the region of Sheila's right shoulder, and right armpit, of her nightdress got created, it is consistent with Sheila's body having been rolled into the recovery position before someone rolled her onto her back and staged her death scene with the rifle in her possession! Someone obviously did this and Sheila couldn't have done any of this by herself because she was dead as soon as the second shot was inflicted!  With respect Herbert Leon McDonnell's latest conclusions do not prevent for the possibility that police had shot Sheila and then taken Swift measures to try and rectify their mistake! Similarly, it's possible that cops took the measures described in the knowledge that moments beforehand that Sheila could have just shot herself!

What makes me think this did not happen, is that if this was the case, cops would have simply told the truth, they would have said that within moments of Shooting herself a second time, they had placed her body in the recovery position and admisteted CPR, and placed fingers against the fatal bullet entry wound in an attempt to keep Sheila alive! They would not then proceed to stage Sheila's death scene as a suicide, even if it had been a suicide!!

Herbert Leon Mcdonnell concluded in 1992 that the large stain around Sheila's arm pit was a result of build up of blood as Sheila touched the wound on her neck. Creating a temporary build up of blood until Sheila's arm fell back.

Herbert was wrong for two reasons.

1. That wound with a smear was instantly fatal. Thus Sheila could not have touched it.

2. If you look closely it seems consistent with being caused by the rifle end.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7805.msg369805.html#msg369805

Furthermore there are many variables involved. Was Sheila sitting up or standing up as this poor guy?
https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck -NSFL

[mike tesko]

Herbert Leon Mcdonnell concluded in 1992 that the large stain around Sheila's arm pit was a result of build up of blood as Sheila touched the wound on her neck. Creating a temporary build up of blood until Sheila's arm fell back.

Herbert was wrong for two reasons.

1. That wound with a smear was instantly fatal. Thus Sheila could not have touched it.

2. If you look closely it seems consistent with being caused by the rifle end.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7805.msg369805.html#msg369805

Furthermore there are many variables involved. Was Sheila sitting up or standing up as this poor guy?
https://gfycat.com/GloriousHeavenlyBuck -NSFL

The truth of the matter was that the cops rolled Sheila into the recovery position on her right side at which time blood pooled in the void of her upper right arm! The triangular stain was created when cops rolled her body onto its back, placed the rifle in Sheila's possession and placed her right hand on the gun! It was the movement of her right hand onto the gun which released the trapped blood causing the triangular bloodstain!

Of course, MacDonnell never commented of the two bloody fingermarks which someone had pressed against the fatal bullet entry hole to try and stop blood from pouring out! Sheila herself couldn't have done that herself with death being instantaneous! Cops did it, there can be no other explanation...

[Caroline]

Herbert Leon McDonnell has recanted on his 1992 conclusions and now believes it could be suicide.

Herbert Leon McDonnell came to the conclusion of murder in 1992 based on incomplete information.

You cannot use his 1992 conclusions while simultaneously ignoring his revised 2009 conclusions.

(Once again), please provide a source for the 2009 conclusion?

[Caroline]

(Once again), please provide a source for the 2009 conclusion?

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[Steve_uk]

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It's here Caroline. I'd be interested in the clock face if anyone could blow the picture up? https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free

[Caroline]

It's here Caroline. I'd be interested in the clock face if anyone could blow the picture up? https://www.channel4.com/news/jeremy-bamber-new-evidence-will-set-me-free

Which picture Steve?