A Jeremy Scenario

[JackieD]

"Already in a bad state"!!! You bet they were, and not just physically. Imagine the psychological impact when the realization dawns that it's the child you took into your lives and provided for, who is hell bent on killing you! I truly believe he'd have wanted them to know who it was who was wielding the gun. I think he'd have wanted them to know why they had to die. I think he'd have wanted them to hear about how he hated the life the were forcing him to lead. It would have fuelled the anger he was feeling, spurring him on.

As usual in YOUR opinion. Just incase it hasn’t sunk in yet this is a forum to DEBATE miscarriages of justice. Not for you to promote your friends ideas because at THIS MOMENT thousands of pounds are investigating the case for numerous reason which you are fully aware

[Jane]

As usual in YOUR opinion. Just incase it hasn’t sunk in yet this is a forum to DEBATE miscarriages of justice. Not for you to promote your friends ideas because at THIS MOMENT thousands of pounds are investigating the case for numerous reason which you are fully aware

Had you fully understood what I said, you'd have noted that I said "I believe" and "I think". They are MY thoughts. Were I to promote others' thoughts, I would claim them to be such. Nowhere do I claim it to be other than MY opinion. It renders your post, like everything else you say, irrelevant.

[Munksa]

As usual in YOUR opinion. Just incase it hasn’t sunk in yet this is a forum to DEBATE miscarriages of justice. Not for you to promote your friends ideas because at THIS MOMENT thousands of pounds are investigating the case for numerous reason which you are fully aware

Good morning Jackie

But isn't it just our OPINION? Including your's? Unless we were present and had been the witness to the crime yes it's just our opinion which will differ from our own understanding of the case. No one is right or wrong in that context.

I think the debate/forum is about the Bamber case in general and not  whether it is MOJ or not.

Correct thousands of pounds, your's and my money. Unfortunately...

[JackieD]

Good morning Jackie

But isn't it just our OPINION? Including your's? Unless we were present and had been the witness to the crime yes it's just our opinion which will differ from our own understanding of the case. No one is right or wrong in that context.

I think the debate/forum is about the Bamber case in general and not  whether it is MOJ or not.

Correct thousands of pounds, your's and my money. Unfortunately...

When thousands of public money is being spent on another huge investigation into the case I and every tax payer deserves full transparency. There is not a single reason why Jeremy’s solicitors do not deserve to have full transparency

There is another documentary being commissioned as we speak and if this shows the case from start to finish there will be more than enough pressure to proof this is an unsafe conviction

Nobody has got close to broadcasting the full details of the case, evidence and witnesses
It will be the biggest true crime documentary about a British case but won’t be produced in this country for obvious reasons but will be broadcast worldwide

[killingeve]

Italian medical professionals did. I believe Calvani and Meloni? Are Italian professionals not as good as English ones? I thought we had moved on from that train of thought.  GDS probably did argue the case for a later time. GDS is an easy target for disdain - that doesn't mean he is wrong though. He has since gone on record saying something like a million percent Bamber is innocent. He may be a rogue but I quite like him.

Nothing to do with where professionals originate from or place of residence but the quality of evidence and the reliability of those involved with it!   

GDS is a bogus lawyer and convicted fraudster currently a guest at HMP.  First we have to put aside justifiable reservations about his reliability given his background. Second we have to ask ourselves why two eminent British pathologists overlooked what the Italian pathologists are claiming decades later! 

GDS saying this, that or the other is meaningless.  He is no more qualified to offer up opinion than you or I.

I don't know why you struggle to identify who is reliable and who isn't.  You seem to write off prof Knight for the defence and instead rely on 'Bill' and GDS and those he has probably duped. 

[killingeve]

Nothing to do with where professionals originate from or place of residence but the quality of evidence and the reliability of those involved with it!   

GDS is a bogus lawyer and convicted fraudster currently a guest at HMP.  First we have to put aside justifiable reservations about his reliability given his background. Second we have to ask ourselves why two eminent British pathologists overlooked what the Italian pathologists are claiming decades later! 

GDS saying this, that or the other is meaningless.  He is no more qualified to offer up opinion than you or I.

I don't know why you struggle to identify who is reliable and who isn't.  You seem to write off prof Knight for the defence and instead rely on 'Bill' and GDS and those he has probably duped.

Bamber certainly attracts them: bogus lawyer and convicted fraudster and now a paedophile apologist. 

[Roch]

Bamber certainly attracts them: bogus lawyer and convicted fraudster and now a paedophile apologist.

Meanwhile, we live in a country where a former prime minister who took us to war on a pack of lives, causing mass death and destruction, is given a knighthood.

[killingeve]

Meanwhile, we live in a country where a former prime minister who took us to war on a pack of lives, causing mass death and destruction, is given a knighthood.

Leaders have to make decisions.  Sometimes they get it wrong.  In Blair's case he was over reliant on intelligence that was clearly wrong. 

[lookout]

Meanwhile, we live in a country where a former prime minister who took us to war on a pack of lives, causing mass death and destruction, is given a knighthood.

Hear hear Roch, how disgusting is that. I nearly died.

[JackieD]

Meanwhile, we live in a country where a former prime minister who took us to war on a pack of lives, causing mass death and destruction, is given a knighthood.

Unforgivable, I actually couldn’t believe it when I read that

[Jane]

Hear hear Roch, how disgusting is that. I nearly died.

Not worth such a sacrifice, Lookout!

[Roch]

Leaders have to make decisions.  Sometimes they get it wrong.  In Blair's case he was over reliant on intelligence that was clearly wrong.

I'm sure all the victims will take great comfort from your assessment.

[Roch]

Unforgivable, I actually couldn’t believe it when I read that

It's vomit-worthy Jackie and tells you all you need to know about 'Great Britain'.

[lookout]

A grandson of mine was sent to war in Iraq. Fortunately he survived but saw 4 of his mates blown up in a roadside bomb.
He was made a sergeant and is now, if he already hasn't gone, joining other troops in the Ukraine.

[killingeve]

I'm sure all the victims will take great comfort from your assessment.

I wouldn't expect them to.