A question.

[Caroline]

Oh dear... Buddy. You buy into Carolines blatant baloney and now this?

Sorry but I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

More goading from the most useless poster on the forum! 

[Jane]

More goading from the most useless poster on the forum! 

Attention seeking. No one's talking to him.

[David1819]

Let's leave aside the reason Julie gave for having the sleeping pills in her possession (I would have told her Siberian ginseng worked better for me but then I wasn't an insomniac), but I can't help but compare this to the Lizzie Borden case (though Julie is far prettier I'm sure David will dredge up some physical resemblance). The reason I bring up the Falls River, Massachusetts murders in 1892 was that Ms. Borden had attempted to buy prussic acid the day before the murders, but at trial this was deemed inadmissible because it was too remote from the actual manner of deaths (bludgeoning with a hatchet) and I can't see how it would be relevant in the Bamber case either.

Given that both Lizzie and Jeremy lived in a dysfunctional family, they both had a history of minor theft and stealing from their family, they both felt as if the world was passing them by and there was the temptation of a large inheritance upon their parents' demise, I'm surprised the parallels haven't been remarked upon heretofore.

Of course Lizzie Borden got off..

There is an interesting equilibrium between both cases. Both are appauling miscarriage's of justice mainly down to the fact that many people (specially men) refuse to believe a woman is capable of such act.

They say It takes a woman to know a woman. Which explains why most of Jeremys supporters are female.

"Men cannot get away from the fascination of sex. Women jurors will not be moved by tears of a murderess. They will not permit their judgment to become paralyzed by the sight of a trembling lip and a pale face."

[David1819]

More goading from the most useless poster on the forum! 

"most useless poster on the forum?"  You know what Mrs Psychobabble would say about that. 

[Steve_uk]

There is an interesting equilibrium between both cases. Both are appauling miscarriage's of justice mainly down to the fact that many people (specially men) refuse to believe a woman is capable of such act.

They say It takes a woman to know a woman. Which explains why most of Jeremys supporters are female.

"Men cannot get away from the fascination of sex. Women jurors will not be moved by tears of a murderess. They will not permit their judgment to become paralyzed by the sight of a trembling lip and a pale face."

Yes: Jeremy chuckled to Julie behind closed doors on the slaughter of five and Lizzie cackled over the banisters..

[Caroline]

"most useless poster on the forum?"  You know what Mrs Psychobabble would say about that. 

Yeah, that you're a tosser!

[Caroline]

Attention seeking. No one's talking to him.

True colours! Just because Buddy wasn't falling for his BS, he turns on him. 

[Jane]

True colours! Just because Buddy wasn't falling for his BS, he turns on him. 

Guess it's lonely being on the outside.

[David1819]

Yeah, that you're a tosser!

Actually I take that back. You are not useless, you can be used as a bad example. 

[Caroline]

Actually I take that back. You are not useless, you can be used as a bad example. 

I certainly rattle your cage!

You earned that accolade when you went from a reasonable human being to an obsessed Bamber supporter, quite possibly the MOST obsessed poster this forum has ever known!

[Reader]

Bamber confirmed to the police he knew about the sleeping pills.

What exactly did he tell the police about them?

[David1819]

I certainly rattle your cage!

In order to rattle my cage, I must value your opinion first.

You earned that accolade when you went from a reasonable human being to an obsessed Bamber supporter, quite possibly the MOST obsessed poster this forum has ever known!

Says the woman who has made over 20,000 forum posts. Not including the god knows how many on your old account.

[Caroline]

In order to rattle my cage, I must value your opinion first.

Says the woman who has made over 20,000 forum posts. Not including the god knows how many on your old account.

Ha, ha! It's so bloody obvious to ALL  that I certainly do rattle your cage. Value my opinion? You spend hours trawling through my old posts - you sad little moron!

I've been a member here a lot longer than you - posts used to be quality before the likes of you joined.

[Jan]

Personally I think there is a chance that her statements were a load of tosh used to set a whole picture of his intention and character . Because without that the police had nothing to go on . And before we get the bleating about other statements they were all hearsay that could not be proven and yes in. Those days the police did do anything to get their man .

If she lied to protect herself from charges the pill thing did not even happen .

IMO

[Jane]

You're right, Buddy......................in theory There are some questions which need answering first, though First off, young female goes to her doctor and complains of uni/work related stress which is making it difficult for her to sleep, so please could he give her something to help her through this difficult phase. Is he really going to give her enough pills, of high enough strength, to do serious damage to several people, bearing in mind Jeremy wanted to get rid of the entire family. Second, how is Jeremy going to grind up enough of these pills -plus find something acceptable to dissolve them into, which will make them palatable- to supply the whole family with them? In all probability, it's likely that Julie's doctor gave her no more than a few days worth of pills, of a strength commensurate with her having the sort of sleep which didn't leave her feeling drunk and incapable the next day.

 THIS must surely raise the speculation that Julie was fully aware of this. That she felt perfectly safe about taking the pills to Goldhanger. COULD she have thought that if he tried -and FAILED- he'd give up on the idea? The other idea which occurs to me is that, at that stage, Jeremy wasn't entirely serious about carrying out his dastardly plan. That he never actually got round to testing it out. Could it be that Julie's plan to prevent it, MAY have been the trigger for him to put it into action?

Personally I think there is a chance that her statements were a load of tosh used to set a whole picture of his intention and character . Because without that the police had nothing to go on . And before we get the bleating about other statements they were all hearsay that could not be proven and yes in. Those days the police did do anything to get their man .

If she lied to protect herself from charges the pill thing did not even happen .

IMO

OR played out in an entirely different way.