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A question.
« on: January 09, 2018, 03:38:PM »
If it could be proved that someone aided or abetted JB in the slaughter of his whole family what would you think was a suitable sentence. bearing in mind that JB has a whole life term.
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Re: A question.
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 03:45:PM »
well the same sentence but I don't see how it could be proved.
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Re: A question.
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 03:47:PM »
well the dame sentence but I don't see how it could be proved.
It can Nugs.

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Re: A question.
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 04:17:PM »
In a confession.

If some goofball claims he was JBs accomplice. It wont prove anything other than he is a goofball.


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Re: A question.
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 04:19:PM »
If some goofball claims he was JBs accomplice. It wont prove anything other than he is a goofball.
I didn't say an accomplice, I said aided, or abetted.

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Re: A question.
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 04:47:PM »
I didn't say an accomplice, I said aided, or abetted.

Buddy, I THINK I read somewhere that doing -BEING- such incurs the same penalty as the actual murderer.

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Re: A question.
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 05:00:PM »
I didn't say an accomplice, I said aided, or abetted.

did you have specific person in mind ot is this hyperfectical.

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Re: A question.
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 05:02:PM »
did you have specific person in mind ot is this hyperfectical.


Is there a specific reason for your question?

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Re: A question.
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2018, 05:39:PM »

Is there a specific reason for your question?

just currosity.

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Re: A question.
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 03:20:PM »
OK time to come clean Who said I supplied Jeremy with sleeping pills in order to kill his entire family?
He said they did not work and had changed his mind, as there were valuables that he didn't want to destroy. The idea being to burn down the farm.
Now the same question, was that aiding or abetting a criminal action.
I think the answer is yes.

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Re: A question.
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 03:57:PM »
OK time to come clean Who said I supplied Jeremy with sleeping pills in order to kill his entire family?
He said they did not work and had changed his mind, as there were valuables that he didn't want to destroy. The idea being to burn down the farm.
Now the same question, was that aiding or abetting a criminal action.
I think the answer is yes.

You're right, Buddy......................in theory :) There are some questions which need answering first, though ;D First off, young female goes to her doctor and complains of uni/work related stress which is making it difficult for her to sleep, so please could he give her something to help her through this difficult phase. Is he really going to give her enough pills, of high enough strength, to do serious damage to several people, bearing in mind Jeremy wanted to get rid of the entire family. Second, how is Jeremy going to grind up enough of these pills -plus find something acceptable to dissolve them into, which will make them palatable- to supply the whole family with them? In all probability, it's likely that Julie's doctor gave her no more than a few days worth of pills, of a strength commensurate with her having the sort of sleep which didn't leave her feeling drunk and incapable the next day.

 THIS must surely raise the speculation that Julie was fully aware of this. That she felt perfectly safe about taking the pills to Goldhanger. COULD she have thought that if he tried -and FAILED- he'd give up on the idea? The other idea which occurs to me is that, at that stage, Jeremy wasn't entirely serious about carrying out his dastardly plan. That he never actually got round to testing it out. Could it be that Julie's plan to prevent it, MAY have been the trigger for him to put it into action?

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Re: A question.
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 04:17:PM »
You're right, Buddy......................in theory :) There are some questions which need answering first, though ;D First off, young female goes to her doctor and complains of uni/work related stress which is making it difficult for her to sleep, so please could he give her something to help her through this difficult phase. Is he really going to give her enough pills, of high enough strength, to do serious damage to several people, bearing in mind Jeremy wanted to get rid of the entire family. Second, how is Jeremy going to grind up enough of these pills -plus find something acceptable to dissolve them into, which will make them palatable- to supply the whole family with them? In all probability, it's likely that Julie's doctor gave her no more than a few days worth of pills, of a strength commensurate with her having the sort of sleep which didn't leave her feeling drunk and incapable the next day.

 THIS must surely raise the speculation that Julie was fully aware of this. That she felt perfectly safe about taking the pills to Goldhanger. COULD she have thought that if he tried -and FAILED- he'd give up on the idea? The other idea which occurs to me is that, at that stage, Jeremy wasn't entirely serious about carrying out his dastardly plan. That he never actually got round to testing it out. Could it be that Julie's plan to prevent it, MAY have been the trigger for him to put it into action?
You make some valid points Jane, but the fact remains that she supplied the pills knowing of the plan.
I think I speak for all that they would not have complied with Jeremy's request.
The fact that she went along with the plan means she aided or abetted with Bamber.
This means she was fully aware of his intentions, and should have been charged IMO.
Much has been made of her vunurability but she was not.

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Re: A question.
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2018, 04:26:PM »
You make some valid points Jane, but the fact remains that she supplied the pills knowing of the plan.
I think I speak for all that they would not have complied with Jeremy's request.
The fact that she went along with the plan means she aided or abetted with Bamber.
This means she was fully aware of his intentions, and should have been charged IMO.
Much has been made of her vunurability but she was not.

I know I'm splitting hairs, here, Buddy, but is 'knowing' about someone's intention and perhaps feeling "Yeah yeah! Here we go again" the same thing as FEELING "Oh my God, he's really serious about this"? Just how DEEPLY aware was she of his intentions. I'm having difficulty in getting my head round how I'd have believed, at 20, that the guy I was in love with was capable of murdering ONE person, let alone 5.