Author Topic: Lawyers for Jeffrey MacDonald, Back In Court Filing to Overturn 1979 Conviction  (Read 17154 times)

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Offline David1819

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Would be interesting to see how this develops

I Believe this man is guilty however I would not have found him guilty based on the evidence. I think there is reasonable doubt. Is 46 years in Jail enough for the crime? 

http://www.people.com/article/jeffrey-macdonald-fighting-court-overturn-murder-conviction

Offline Steve_uk

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Would be interesting to see how this develops

I Believe this man is guilty however I would not have found him guilty based on the evidence. I think there is reasonable doubt. Is 46 years in Jail enough for the crime? 

http://www.people.com/article/jeffrey-macdonald-fighting-court-overturn-murder-conviction
A terrible and fascinating case David, with a tenuous link to Jeremy Bamber as he watched Fatal Vision shortly before he perpetrated his own massacre. As for MacDonald I doubt we will never know for sure now the key witness Helena Stoeckley is dead.

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A terrible and fascinating case David, with a tenuous link to Jeremy Bamber as he watched Fatal Vision shortly before he perpetrated his own massacre. As for MacDonald I doubt we will never know for sure now the key witness Helena Stoeckley is dead.

I doubt this could have inspired Jeremy since the guy got caught.

There is more evidence against Macdonald than there is Bamber

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i use to think he might be incont but looking at the case im pretty certan he was guilty hes story about the hippys just doesnt add up.

Offline Steve_uk

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i use to think he might be incont but looking at the case im pretty certan he was guilty hes story about the hippys just doesnt add up.
It's a can of worms nugnug and a very tragic one at that because Stoeckly has confessed numerous times to being at the apartment that night, which not in itself precluding MacDonald's guilt should as it has given leave for appeal.

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well for me its macdonald story about the hippys that makes me think he did it.

i mean kill the pigs hippys dident really say things like that.

and how the hell did they get in and out of there without being seen

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well for me its macdonald story about the hippys that makes me think he did it.

i mean kill the pigs hippys dident really say things like that.

and how the hell did they get in and out of there without being seen
Well I think they were coming for their fix, supposing MacDonald as a doctor stored drugs in the house. Stoeckley had possibly been in the apartment on a previous occasion as she was able to describe the interior. Don't get me wrong-I think he's guilty, which should satisfy some of you anyway.

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Well I think they were coming for their fix, supposing MacDonald as a doctor stored drugs in the house. Stoeckley had possibly been in the apartment on a previous occasion as she was able to describe the interior. Don't get me wrong-I think he's guilty, which should satisfy some of you anyway.

Do you think he should get the benefit of the doubt after 46 years inside?

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well for me its macdonald story about the hippys that makes me think he did it.

i mean kill the pigs hippys dident really say things like that.

and how the hell did they get in and out of there without being seen

There was a woman seen that night by an ambulance driver in the area wearing a pointy hat, and Macdonald reported the women was wearing a pointy hat.
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Do you think he should get the benefit of the doubt after 46 years inside?
I don't know enough about the case to pronounce on that. On the Bamber case I think Colin has behaved with so much dignity his wishes should be paramount.

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I don't know enough about the case to pronounce on that. On the Bamber case I think Colin has behaved with so much dignity his wishes should be paramount.

In my Opinion, I am not convinced that Colin is fully certain of the events on that faithful night. But would not dare say anything of that nature publicly because it would give Jeremy allot of credibility.

Don't forget he never questioned the original version of events and he knew Sheila and the Bamber's well. 
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In my Opinion, I am not convinced that Colin is fully certain of the events on that faithful night. But would not dare say anything of that nature publicly because it would give Jeremy allot of credibility.

Don't forget he never questioned the original version of events and he knew Sheila and the Bamber's well.
Jeremy ingratiated himself with Colin over a protracted period with the angle that he had been cajoled into marrying his sister and his parents were attempting the same strategy with himself. Colin felt guilty at being unfaithful during the marriage and ultimately abandoning her and regarded his brother-in-law as a friend. In retrospect Colin and Sheila were incredibly trusting individuals.
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Jeremy ingratiated himself with Colin over a protracted period with the angle that he had been cajoled into marrying his sister and his parents were attempting the same strategy with himself. Colin felt guilty at being unfaithful during the marriage and ultimately abandoning her and regarded his brother-in-law as a friend. In retrospect Colin and Sheila were incredibly trusting individuals.

does not change the fact that Colin never questioned the events pre mugford coming forward and the impending media circus

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does not change the fact that Colin never questioned the events pre mugford coming forward and the impending media circus
Well there is something called shock you know, which accompanies bereavement.

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And that shock would also account for Jeremy's bizarre behaviour------although in his case,it was called suspicion !!??