Who Asked For The Carpets (etc.) To Be Burned?

[Steve_uk]

I guess the clue in this case is that Bambers in an A-cat prisoner because he murdered 5 family members.

I wonder how much effort it takes to deceive on a daily basis.

[lookout]

I guess the clue in this case is that Bambers in an A-cat prisoner because he murdered 5 family members.

That's what you think.

[Stephanie]

I wonder how much effort it takes to deceive on a daily basis.

None?

[guest154]

How on earth can you diagnose a person as having a personality disorder when you haven't even met them?

Isn't that what you do with Sheila? On an almost daily basis. But can't seem to handle that people may think bad of Jeremy.

Jeremy's writings, blogs, actions, behaviors and .. his crimes speak volumes and when you add it all together he really is a bullet point case for a personality disorder. None of us are trying to actually diagnose Jeremy as ANYTHING - but we're giving our opinions.

I wonder how much effort it takes to deceive on a daily basis.

Suppose it depends how much the person you're deceiving on a daily basis wants to believe what you're saying. 

[Jane]

I wonder how much effort it takes to deceive on a daily basis.

Probably no more effort than it takes to be you -OR me- on a daily basis. It's simply about who WE are. 

[Stephanie]

That's what you think.

It's what I strongly believe having seen all the evidence, having read his blogs, letters, interview with the guardian, news articles etc etc and numerous other reasons - not discounting how he appears to gaslight, smear, dupe etc - for me he's a classic psychopath!

[Jane]

That's what you think.

Are you saying that he's Cat A for other reasons, Lookout?

[lookout]

Isn't that what you do with Sheila? On an almost daily basis. But can't seem to handle that people may think bad of Jeremy.

Jeremy's writings, blogs, actions, behaviors and .. his crimes speak volumes and when you add it all together he really is a bullet point case for a personality disorder. None of us are trying to actually diagnose Jeremy as ANYTHING - but we're giving our opinions.

Suppose it depends how much the person you're deceiving on a daily basis wants to believe what you're saying.

Sheila's diagnosis were already reported in the media etc.. I was just disputing what it was. Whereas there's no sign of a diagnosis where Jeremy is concerned ( you're doing it for him ),which also means that you're deceiving whoever reads your posts into brainwashing them that Jeremy is a psychopath just because you've read about psychopathy and seem to think that every word you read refers to Jeremy.

What about Sheila's behaviour ? Perhaps you didn't think it odd when she opened up her thoughts to Dr Ferguson ?

[lookout]

Are you saying that he's Cat A for other reasons, Lookout?

False imprisonment would be a start.

[Stephanie]

which also means that you're deceiving whoever reads your posts into brainwashing them that Jeremy is a psychopath just because you've read about psychopathy and seem to think that every word you read refers to Jeremy.

What is brainwashing Lookout?

"Brainwashing is the attempt to change the thoughts and beliefs of another person against their will.

http://m.wikihow.com/Recognize-and-Avoid-Brainwashing

http://lifehacker.com/5886571/brainwashing-techniques-you-encounter-every-day-and-how-to-avoid-them

[Stephanie]

False imprisonment would be a start.

I'm using this as an example only - but would you be happy for say Jeremy Bamber to be released from prison in 5 minutes time in order to babysit your grandchildren?

[Jane]

False imprisonment would be a start.

The question WAS "Are you saying that he's Cat A for other reasons?" False imprisonment is NOT a reason for convicting anyone.

[Steve_uk]

Sheila's diagnosis were already reported in the media etc.. I was just disputing what it was. Whereas there's no sign of a diagnosis where Jeremy is concerned ( you're doing it for him ),which also means that you're deceiving whoever reads your posts into brainwashing them that Jeremy is a psychopath just because you've read about psychopathy and seem to think that every word you read refers to Jeremy.

What about Sheila's behaviour ? Perhaps you didn't think it odd when she opened up her thoughts to Dr Ferguson ?

Her thoughts were shocking lookout and Jeremy was done a disservice at trial by his legal team, who should have made far more of her illness and the initial mistakes in the investgation,which might have distracted the jury's attention from other evidence damning to him.

[Jane]

Sheila's diagnosis were already reported in the media etc.. I was just disputing what it was. Whereas there's no sign of a diagnosis where Jeremy is concerned ( you're doing it for him ),which also means that you're deceiving whoever reads your posts into brainwashing them that Jeremy is a psychopath just because you've read about psychopathy and seem to think that every word you read refers to Jeremy.

What about Sheila's behaviour ? Perhaps you didn't think it odd when she opened up her thoughts to Dr Ferguson ?

We have no confirmation that Sheila ever said she hated her parents or could easily kill them. All she said of her boys was that -at one time- she feared she might harm them. Several have testified to Jeremy's comments on his parents.

[lookout]

The question WAS "Are you saying that he's Cat A for other reasons?" False imprisonment is NOT a reason for convicting anyone.

It certainly is when they've done nothing.