The Myths of Circumstantial Evidence

[Caroline]

Claire Powell's. She who spoke of Sheila's £40,000 drug debt.

And it was bollocks.

[lookout]

Amazing isn't Caroline how these facts are over looked. His guilt is there for all to see; only bias is stopping them from seeing it. It was my own bias that stopped me from seeing SH's guilt when I learned he had lied about his movements on the night of the murder.

I could say the same about you and your own bias. Works both ways.

[Stephanie]

Nonetheless, Lookout, which ever way we choose to see it, Jeremy was responsible for leaving out the gun he'd been using and it was used to kill 5 people. There are those amongst us who would wish, for ever more, that we'd put the gun away. Jeremy has said nothing.

There's no getting away from this fact. Not one shred of guilt from him in 32 years over this crucial point of fact. Not an iota of regret!

And I guarantee there isn't a single letter in existence (Written to a supporter/or anyone else for that matter) where he has ever mentioned his remorse or carelessness for having left the gun and ammunition out. The facts speak for themselves. What a purely wicked man he is!

[Caroline]

Jeremy 'said' left the gun propped up near the kitchen door, where the coats are hanging. NOT propped up next to the bedroom window, that is the SAME rifle that was on Sheila after it was moved.

[lookout]

And it was bollocks.

Well there you are. Does that include the fact that she made it clear she's on the guilty side ?

[Caroline]

I could say the same about you and your own bias. Works both ways.

I think that is the point Steph is making. She admits she was manipulated by SH and did have a biased view until she realised she was being manipulated. She is speaking from experience!

[Stephanie]

I could say the same about you and your own bias. Works both ways.

I'm not emotionally invested in Bambers case. There is no bias. Just years of experience and a wealth of knowledge gained from having heard and seen it all before. As an outsider looking in, Bambers guilt is as clear as day.

[Caroline]

Well there you are. Does that include the fact that she made it clear she's on the guilty side ?

What does one have to do with the other? I don't know anything about CP but just because she thinks Bamber is guilty doesn't make her the fountain of all knowledge, nor does it mean I wouldn't criticise her if I thought what she said was wrong.

[Jane]

There's no getting away from this fact. Not one shred of guilt from him in 32 years over this crucial point of fact. Not an iota of regret!

And I guarantee there isn't a single letter in existence (Written to a supporter/or anyone else for that matter) where he has ever mentioned his remorse or carelessness for having left the gun and ammunition out. The facts speak for themselves. What a purely wicked man he is!

I can't escape from the feeling that if someone was TRULY innocent of something, they'd care HUGELY if they knew that some careless or thoughtless act, on their part, had caused grief, injury and/or death to other people.

[Stephanie]

I can't escape from the feeling that if someone was TRULY innocent of something, they'd care HUGELY if they knew that some careless or thoughtless act, on their part, had caused grief, injury and/or death to other people.

He's had 32 years to concoct stories and theories and in those 32 years he's forgotten this crucial and extremely revealing and relevant point! There's no getting away from it. And thankfully the police didn't!

His lack of thought about this gives us a glimpse into the real Jeremy Bamber and shows us he wasn't/isn't concerned and that any genuine emotion is missing.

And as you say Jane, a TRULY innocent individual would care! Jeremy Bamber didn't/doesn't!

[Steve_uk]

Claire Powell's. She who spoke of Sheila's £40,000 drug debt.

I was talking about the supposed gun under the bed of the master bedroom.

[Caroline]

I was talking about the supposed gun under the bed of the master bedroom.

I think that is most likely another myth.

[Stephanie]

I think that is the point Steph is making. She admits she was manipulated by SH and did have a biased view until she realised she was being manipulated. She is speaking from experience!

Indeed Caroline!


SH publicly stated the following on/around 28th Jan 2013

"Most of you will be aware that the CCRC are still investigating my case. They have been for quite a few years now. What most people don’t know is that communication between the CCRC and me, Stephanie, Dr Naughton @ the University of Bristol and Gabe Tan aren’t brilliant. I don’t really want to criticise the CCRC and their protocols and procedures, because that could be seen as biting the hand that feeds you, but dealing with the CCRC is like banging your head against a brick wall.

There is no transparency, no real information, progress reports don’t tell us anything except that they cant tell us anything and they will contact us in due course. Stephanie has made submission after submission to the CCRC, after countless long days of constant investigation and study of the thousands of documents that make up the case papers (although Suffolk police clearly failed to disclose all documentation) Jeremy Bamber claims the same re Essex police all of it relevant, all of it missed or ignored by everyone else who has worked on this case Jeremy Bamber claims the same - notice how they don't blame themselves; it's always someone elses fault. Some of it relates to crucial evidence that easily renders the fibre evidence invalid Jeremy Bamber claims similar in relation to clearing his name(for the second time) but the CCRC seem reluctant to act upon it Jeremy Bamber claims the same and I don’t get it.

When we ask questions we are told that the CCRC don’t give information on a piecemeal basis. What? Why? I have been sitting in prison for over 10 ½ years for a crime I did not commit Jeremy Bamber claims the same (32 years)and you say you are helping but you wont tell me what is going on…….

We also can’t get statements, CCTV and access to evidence until the CCRC have made their decision. It doesn’t make sense. Stephanie’s endless work on this case is so close to fruition regarding the alternative viable suspects The same alternative viable suspects he invented following his arrest - notice he uses my name, not his own namebut now the CCRC are working on it, who can get the CCTV, statements and evidence, you would think they would share the information and we could all work together. Not happening.

Fibre experts in America who have also shared concerns about the fibre evidence were ready and willing to work on this case and we told the CCRC that, but they did nothing and the experts could have been finished by now Jeremy Bamber claims similar in other areas of his case.

There is still possible DNA that is definitely not mine that has yet to be tested A minute spec, of what appeared to be blood coloured, was found during the fibre tests - it was too small for any testing and even if it hadn't have been, SH knew it wasn't his as he made sure he didn't cut himself when climbing through the kitchen window. It most probably wasn't blood. I just don’t get it!

Some people would think I am being foolish for openly criticising the CCRC, but if you were in my position you would be tearing your hair out too. At times you have to make decisions that can be perceived differently by different people, depending on your outlook on life.
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And this is exactly what Jeremy Bamber relies on too. The differing views and opinions of his supporters and their outlook on life. He relies on their bias and their emotions which keep them hanging on to his every word.  His charm puts them off guard. After all, a real killer doesn't act and sound like Jeremy Bamber. But that's exactly what a real killer acts and sounds like...

They are extremely convincing until they are caught in the lie..

SH's public statements convinced many, even after he confessed. His statements about his case, the CCRC, experts, withheld evidence etc etc - it's no different to Jeremy Bambers false pleas. 


I wonder how many of you can tell the myths from the facts in his (SH) statements (Above)?

I wonder how many people have had access to ALL of Jeremy Bambers case files? And I wonder how many of those people have been able to put their bias to one side in order to spot the myths from the fiction?

[David1819]

But RWB and Stan Jones never mentioned the hitman. The bike was a possible mode of transport and suspiciously it had the yellow sulphurous mud of the region still encrusted on the tyres weeks after the murders. The "Sheila on the bed" story was circulating that first morning at Goldhanger, which is when Ann Eaton became aware of it, but Julie didn't know until she quizzed Jeremy that evening after everyone had left. Him wanting to be alone with Julie spoke volumes whether he did chuckle or cough, and Julie must have suspected his involvement in the crimes there and then.

From what I recall Matthew McDonald had been to White House Farm to fix some plumbing and described Jeremy as "a queer fish". I doubt they ever socialized. Wasn't the £2000 a sum that Nevill had lent his son for the world trip, but apparently the latter had paid this to some friend(an air steward?) and therefore Julie would have known he did not have that amount of cash available at that particular moment in time.

Steve. Julie's testimony is perjury why remain in denial?

[Stephanie]

Who did Jeremy Bamber show ALL of his case papers with following his arrest and subsequent conviction; other than solicitors? If anyone?

What questions was Jeremy Bamber asking around this time re his alleged wrongful conviction?

Has anyone ever found this out? Where are those people who he originally shared this information with? If he was innocent, how could they walk away? How does this sit on their conscience?

Or did they suss him out and would prefer people to not know they were manipulated by Bamber?