The 3 o'clock phone calls & what Mugford knew.

[Jane]

Suspect Jeremy felt Julie was under his spell suffciently. It is correct he did not say to anyone else he committed the crime. However Wilke's book states that Jeremy unexpectedly said to a friend one evening 'only I know what really happened that night'.

When Mugford threatened to go to the police Jeremy said they would never believe her as he was watertight.

And he would have been correct, up to a point, because he had supper with them and why would an innocent person believe their story to be anything other than watertight.

[maggie]

Suspect Jeremy felt Julie was under his spell suffciently. It is correct he did not say to anyone else he committed the crime. However Wilke's book states that Jeremy unexpectedly said to a friend one evening 'only I know what really happened that night'.

When Mugford threatened to go to the police Jeremy said they would never believe her as he was watertight.

Hearsay, Adam as you know. What spell was Julie under, are you inferring that you believe Jeremy is a psychopath?  That is always the belief of guilters because we can be pretty sure if he wasn't he couldn't have carried out that crime without turning a hair.  Bit of a quandary for people really seeing as he hasn't ever displayed the slightest sign of any personality disorder.  I'm sure though you still believe you know better.

[Adam]

Sorry Jeremys words were 'I'm the only person who really knows what happened that night'.

It was said to Liz Rimmington.

Is Wilkes lying ? If so why has'nt Rimmington sued ?

If Rimmington told Wilkes this, is she lying ? I thought she was Jeremys friend.

[Alias]

Sorry the words were 'I'm the only person who really know what happened that night'.

It was said to Liz Rimmington.

Is Wilkes lying ? If so why has'nt Rimmington sued ?

If Rimmington told Wilkes this, is she lying ? I thought she was Jeremys friend.

He could have been referring to the phone call from Neville.

[Adam]

He could have been referring to the phone call from Neville.

So Jeremy withheld information from  the police ?

This was said to Rimmington before the funerals. At the time everyone believed it was murder/suicide.

The major word in Jeremys sentance is 'really'.

[maggie]

This was said to Rimmington before the funerals. At the time everyone believed it was murder/suicide.

The major word in Jeremys sentance is 'really'.

Strange Adam you haven't answered my question about how JB was able to murder in cold blood when he doesn't have a personality disorder.  How do you think he could do that?

[Alias]

So Jeremy withheld information from  the police ?

This was said to Rimmington before the funerals. At the time everyone believed it was murder/suicide.

The major word in Jeremys sentance is 'really'.

He could still have been referring to the phone call from Neville. Ann Eaton started taking notes of everything Jeremy did or said from the very morning after the murders - it cannot have escaped him that people were out to get him.

[lookout]

Sheilas' blood was bound to have been on the silencer,as when police were "arranging" bodies,etc,,they'd have experimented as to whether a silencer was used on Sheila,by firstly attaching it,putting it against her bloodied neck,,then detaching it and putting it on the bed. I don't know who put it back into the cupboard,,but whoever it was,didn't own up.

[Alias]

Sheilas' blood was bound to have been on the silencer,as when police were "arranging" bodies,etc,,they'd have experimented as to whether a silencer was used on Sheila,by firstly attaching it,putting it against her bloodied neck,,then detaching it and putting it on the bed. I don't know who put it back into the cupboard,,but whoever it was,didn't own up.

Sorry, that is very speculative.

[Adam]

Maggie, you would have to ask Jeremy that. He may tell you ! But he had a motive & opportunity. It was either him or Sheila.

He did not seem upset afterwards, going on holidays, buying drugs, having expensive meals,  selling off household  items & having affairs.

Since the conviction it is in his interests to pass any personality test. It supports the  'how could I have done it' claim.

[maggie]

Maggie, you would have to ask Jeremy that. He may tell you ! But he had a motive & opportunity. It was either him or Sheila.

He did not seem upset afterwards, going on holidays, buying drugs, having expensive meals,  selling off household  items & having affairs.

Since the conviction it is in his interests to pass any personality test. It supports the  'how could I have done it' claim.

Imo you believe he's a psychopath because he has to be to prove your theories but you know everything points away from that fact.

[lookout]

Sorry, that is very speculative.

I get carried away sometimes,Alias.

[Adam]

Sorry Jeremys words were 'I'm the only person who really knows what happened that night'.

It was said to Liz Rimmington.

Is Wilkes lying ? If so why has'nt Rimmington sued ?

If Rimmington told Wilkes this, is she lying ? I thought she was Jeremys friend.

Is Rimmington lying, automatically meaning this section in Wilke's book is untrue.

It would not surprise me. After all Mugford, Battersby, Barbara Wilson, Essex Police & the relatives are all lying. Why not include Rimmington & Wilkes in the list ?

[Alias]

I get carried away sometimes,Alias.

Hehe 

[nugnug]

well barbra wilson has changed her story from what she said at the trial she must be lying.

one way or the other.