The 3 o'clock phone calls & what Mugford knew.

[Caroline R]

Is Rimmington lying, automatically meaning this section in Wilke's book is untrue.

It would not surprise me. After all Mugford, Battersby, Barbara Wilson, Essex Police & the relatives are all lying. Why not include Rimmington & Wilkes in the list ?

You would have to ask Liz Rimmington that. By the way, didn't you say you were 'open minded' when you registered? Guilty supporters are very welcome here but I think we would all prefer that people be honest from the start. Anything else causes suspicion.

[Adam]

well barbra wilson has changed her story from what she said at the trial she must be lying.

At trials people are asked percific questions and have to give straight to the point answers.

When interviewed by the media, Barbara Wilson has more freedom. So can mention new things, which she has recently done.

She has said before that Neville was worried about being attacked. It is doubtful he meant by Sheila,  as he invited her to stay at the house.

[nugnug]

well theres a simple explantion for that nevile already had already been attacked by one of the relatives.

[lookout]

well barbra wilson has changed her story from what she said at the trial she must be lying.

Nugs,,from the start she must have felt the odd one out having given a shining example of what Jeremy was like,,while everyone else,including the police,hated him like poison.  Even comparing him with her own son wishing he was like Jeremy,,so yes,,her arm was well and truly twisted during that docu the other week. It was nearly as quick to have had her mind changed for her as it was changing granny Speakmans' will !!

[Caroline R]

At trials people are asked percific questions and have to give straight to the point answers.

When interviewed by the media, Barbara Wilson has more freedom. So can mention new things, which she has recently done.

She has said before that Neville was worried about being attacked. It is doubtful he meant by Sheila,  as he invited her to stay at the house.

Not when they make a statement!! Wilkes quotes BW talking about the so called 'premonition' but she doesn't mention that he was talking about Jeremy. Recently she claims that he mentioned him by name? So she didn't remember something that was said a short time before the murders but remembers it all these years later? And you think she's credible? Wow!!

[Alias]

At trials people are asked percific questions and have to give straight to the point answers.

When interviewed by the media, Barbara Wilson has more freedom. So can mention new things, which she has recently done.

She has said before that Neville was worried about being attacked. It is doubtful he meant by Sheila,  as he invited her to stay at the house.

Jeremy was at the house every day. If Neville had been so afraid of him, why did he leave firearms strewn all over the farmhouse? Why, in the first place, did he let Jeremy work there?

[Adam]

You would have to ask Liz Rimmington that. By the way, didn't you say you were 'open minded' when you registered? Guilty supporters are very welcome here but I think we would all prefer that people be honest from the start. Anything else causes suspicion.

I am open minded but like to ask difficult questions as I am sure I will get good answers on here.

[Jane]

At trials people are asked percific questions and have to give straight to the point answers.

When interviewed by the media, Barbara Wilson has more freedom. So can mention new things, which she has recently done.

She has said before that Neville was worried about being attacked. It is doubtful he meant by Sheila,  as he invited her to stay at the house.

Well, if you're not exactly putting specific words in BW's mouth, you certainly seem to be implying the thoughts in her mind, which of course neither you nor I can know. What we do know is that not once did she previously mention Jeremy's name NOR did she imply that Nevill had, either.

[maggie]

Not when they make a statement!! Wilkes quotes BW talking about the so called 'premonition' but she doesn't mention that he was talking about Jeremy. Recently she claims that he mentioned him by name? So she didn't remember something that was said a short time before the murders but remembers it all these years later? And you think she's credible? Wow!!

Mmmmmmm  Caroline, seems a bit gullible to me. 

[Jane]

I am open minded but like to ask difficult questions as I am sure I will get good answers on here.
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[Caroline R]

I am open minded but like to ask difficult questions as I am sure I will get good answers on here.

OK, if you like difficult questions - here is one for you. As Alias has asked - how did Jeremy manage to lead Sheila to their parents bedroom, make her lay down passively and shoot her - TWICE?

[Jane]

OK, if you like difficult questions - here is one for you. As Alias has asked - how did Jeremy manage to lead Sheila to their parents bedroom, make her lay down passively and shoot her - TWICE?

...................and what position would he have needed to force Sheila's head into/adopt for himself, to cause the known trajectory of bullets?

[Adam]

OK, if you like difficult questions - here is one for you. As Alias has asked - how did Jeremy manage to lead Sheila to their parents bedroom, make her lay down passively and shoot her - TWICE?

Just answered that in another thread.

[lookout]

...................and what position would he have needed to force Sheila's head into/adopt for himself, to cause the known trajectory of bullets?

Shuffling along on his belly would have been my first thought,,like a soldier doing manouvres. Oh I don't think so.

[Jane]

Shuffling along on his belly would have been my first thought,,like a soldier doing manouvres. Oh I don't think so.

lookout, would that be before or after he'd forced Sheila's head into the required position and if it was after, how could he have guaranteed she'd keep it there?