The 3 o'clock phone calls & what Mugford knew.

[nugnug]

i would think she would of tried to move her head.

[Steve_uk]

OK, if you like difficult questions - here is one for you. As Alias has asked - how did Jeremy manage to lead Sheila to their parents bedroom, make her lay down passively and shoot her - TWICE?

Because everything we read about Sheila after she came out of St. Andrew's for the second time depicts her as a gullible,easily-led,vacant girl who wasn't quite with it,which is what must have put the idea into Jeremy's mind in the first place.

[nugnug]

she had mental health problems she wasnt retarded.

[Adam]

Because everything we read about Sheila after she came out of St. Andrew's for the second time depicts her as a gullible,easily-led,vacant girl who wasn't quite with it,which is what must have put the idea into Jeremy's mind in the first place.

I read that around the time Sheila barely had enough co ordination to put sugar in her tea.

[maggie]

Because everything we read about Sheila after she came out of St. Andrew's for the second time depicts her as a gullible,easily-led,vacant girl who wasn't quite with it,which is what must have put the idea into Jeremy's mind in the first place.

So was she being all those things when she attacked the gas man?  Why do you say Sheila was gullible? No one has claimed she was stupid, just mentally ill,  poor Sheila.
Thought it had been in Jeremy's mind for a long time Steve? Long before Sheila's second spell in St Andrews.

[Caroline R]

Because everything we read about Sheila after she came out of St. Andrew's for the second time depicts her as a gullible,easily-led,vacant girl who wasn't quite with it,which is what must have put the idea into Jeremy's mind in the first place.

When someone uses the term 'easily led' they aren't talking about by the hand in the middle of the night by a gunman to their death!! The suggestion is absurd!!

[Caroline R]

I read that around the time Sheila barely had enough co ordination to put sugar in her tea.

 

[Steve_uk]

So was she being all those things when she attacked the electric man?  Why do you say Sheila was gullible? No one has claimed she was stupid, just mentally ill,  poor Sheila.
Thought it had been in Jeremy's mind for a long time Steve? Long before Sheila's second spell in St Andrews.

Yes I must check the exact date but to my mind the occasion of Ann Eaton's birthday in September 1984 was certainly a danger signal when she received a birthday card from Jeremy. This would be because Jeremy had pencilled in the Christmas period of that year to burn down the White House,whose plan was only thwarted when he realized Sheila would not be staying there after all.

[nugnug]

I read that around the time Sheila barely had enough co ordination to put sugar in her tea.

acording the relative who vested interest in jeremys conviction.

its rather funny that nobody else including her husband noticed this.

[Alias]

she had mental health problems she wasnt retarded.

How well put!

[lookout]

I read that around the time Sheila barely had enough co ordination to put sugar in her tea.

That was probably because of the cannabis mixed with prescription drugs causing the shakes.
Remember though,that the actual shootings were also shaky and frenzied with aimless firings,that if she'd been further away from her targets,,she'd have missed them. Let's face it,,she couldn't have been any nearer anyway.

[nugnug]

nobody mentions her cordination exept the relatives.

her husband never mentioned it and he knew her a lot better than they did.

[grahameb]

I read that around the time Sheila barely had enough co ordination to put sugar in her tea.

And that was said by Ann Eaton. Who by the way hadn't even seen her since the last Christmas. So how would she had known?

[Adam]

That was probably because of the cannabis mixed with prescription drugs causing the shakes.
Remember though,that the actual shootings were also shaky and frenzied with aimless firings,that if she'd been further away from her targets,,she'd have missed them. Let's face it,,she couldn't have been any nearer anyway.

Shootings shaky & frenzied ? All the bullets except one hit the target. She was co ordinated enough to get close enough to her targets to not miss. Also able to reload twice & batter Neville.

[Caroline R]

Shootings shaky & frenzied ? All the bullets except one hit the target. She was co ordinated enough to get close enough to her targets to not miss. Also able to reload twice & batter Neville.

Hardly likely to miss at that distance!!