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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6000 on: May 07, 2025, 08:20:PM »
Claims made in news that suspect's hard drive contains evidence that suggests Madeleine is dead.
The German legal authorities are holding their cards close to their chest.

Is this a new story? https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-timeline-suspect-hard-drive-b1079034.html
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6001 on: May 08, 2025, 09:59:AM »
Grim read that.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6002 on: May 08, 2025, 10:22:AM »
I find it remarkable that there's always media coverage around the anniversary of her disappearance. 

I do not believe CB had anything to do with her disappearance.  The authorities clearly do not have any evidence.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6004 on: May 10, 2025, 09:37:PM »
New Channel 4 Documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxj2n-VRGH4
It seems the unseen evidence in the documentary Madeleine McCann: the Unseen Evidence remains unseen. https://youtu.be/RH23Q8br9Jw
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6005 on: May 10, 2025, 10:02:PM »
Christian Brueckner is one seriously sick person.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6006 on: May 11, 2025, 07:39:AM »
It seems the unseen evidence in the documentary Madeleine McCann: the Unseen Evidence remains unseen. https://youtu.be/RH23Q8br9Jw
Gobby Pat Brown, fuming, flustered and blowing her usual gasket when shown to be wrong. She might be clued up on Bamber but knows bugger all about the McCann case, her hatred of them shining through in every video she does, simply because they had her accusative book removed from sale on Amazon.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6007 on: May 11, 2025, 04:12:PM »
Gobby Pat Brown, fuming, flustered and blowing her usual gasket when shown to be wrong. She might be clued up on Bamber but knows bugger all about the McCann case, her hatred of them shining through in every video she does, simply because they had her accusative book removed from sale on Amazon.
I usually agree with you Curiosity, but did you watch both videos? Brown was libelled and received a grudging apology from the Sun newspaper. The detail discussed is crucial, the allegation being that Tannerman was invented specifically to give Gerry McCann an alibi, whilst Smithman was ignored unbelievably because that could implicate him. The fact that the McCanns dismissed Smithman so casually speaks volumes to my mind.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6008 on: May 11, 2025, 06:38:PM »
I usually agree with you Curiosity, but did you watch both videos? Brown was libelled and received a grudging apology from the Sun newspaper. The detail discussed is crucial, the allegation being that Tannerman was invented specifically to give Gerry McCann an alibi, whilst Smithman was ignored unbelievably because that could implicate him. The fact that the McCanns dismissed Smithman so casually speaks volumes to my mind.
Pat Brown's claim is that Gerry McCann carried a drugged-up, deceased Madeleine down Rua da Escola Primaria (the Smith sighting who couldn't describe exactly what he looked like) to the shore where he found an upturned boat, hid her body beneath it, then when the search had cooled off a day or so later, retrieved her in dead of night and along with one of the other Tapas 7 for support, walked all the way eastwards along the shore to the base of Rocha Negra, climbed up further to conceal Madeleine's by now festering body under rocks in a shallow gully.

Weeks later when the McCanns took possession of a hire car, they returned to said location to uncover her rotting corpse once again and drive miles away to Brown's god-knows-where location, Gerry this time well-prepared with suitable spade to finally dispose of his daughter's remains.  All too far-fetched and highly unlikely in my view.

Jane Tanner's sighting was genuine enough, and much later discovered to be a Dr.Totman carrying his daughter from the holiday village creche - https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-spent-four-12495545

Andy Redwood of Op.Grange then wanted public watching Crimewatch to focus attention on Smithman. That could easily have been Brueckner whose Jaguar or VW campervan was parked conveniently in an unlit shore location further west for a quick getaway back to his yellow and white rented lair in the Rocha Negra foothills.

I would much rather put my trust in the Bundeskriminalamt to solve this case rather than a subscriber/donation-obsessed, self-proclaimed YouTube profiler.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6009 on: May 11, 2025, 06:53:PM »
Pat Brown's claim is that Gerry McCann carried a drugged-up, deceased Madeleine down Rua da Escola Primaria (the Smith sighting who couldn't describe exactly what he looked like) to the shore where he found an upturned boat, hid her body beneath it, then when the search had cooled off a day or so later, retrieved her in dead of night and along with one of the other Tapas 7 for support, walked all the way eastwards along the shore to the base of Rocha Negra, climbed up further to conceal Madeleine's by now festering body under rocks in a shallow gully.

Weeks later when the McCanns took possession of a hire car, they returned to said location to uncover her rotting corpse once again and drive miles away to Brown's god-knows-where location, Gerry this time well-prepared with suitable spade to finally dispose of his daughter's remains.  All too far-fetched and highly unlikely in my view.

Jane Tanner's sighting was genuine enough
, and much later discovered to be a Dr.Totman carrying his daughter from the holiday village creche - https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-spent-four-12495545

Andy Redwood of Op.Grange then wanted public watching Crimewatch to focus attention on Smithman. That could easily have been Brueckner whose Jaguar or VW campervan was parked conveniently in an unlit shore location further west for a quick getaway back to his yellow and white rented lair in the Rocha Negra foothills.

I would much rather put my trust in the Bundeskriminalamt to solve this case rather than a subscriber/donation-obsessed, self-proclaimed YouTube profiler.
It doesn't explain why the McCanns pooh-poohed the Smithman sighting, at a stage they were apparently still desperate for any leads to their daughter. Totman had become a friend of the family, so hardly an impartial witness. As for Christian B, why is there nothing to link him forensically with the abduction after all this time?

And please, don't forget the blood and cadaver dogs.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6010 on: May 11, 2025, 07:38:PM »
It doesn't explain why the McCanns pooh-poohed the Smithman sighting, at a stage they were apparently still desperate for any leads to their daughter. Totman had become a friend of the family, so hardly an impartial witness. As for Christian B, why is there nothing to link him forensically with the abduction after all this time?

And please, don't forget the blood and cadaver dogs.
There was only a solitary hair of Brueckner's, which the BKA discovered years later could be linked to the violent assault and rape of Diana Menkes. Brueckner was fastidious and forensically aware in the case of Hazel Behan's four-hour rape; leaving his soiled shoes on the balcony outside her apartment and disposing of numerous condoms down the toilet. It appears the PJ didn't even do a proper job in collecting forensic evidence in 5A too, the crime scene being compromised well before being sealed off.

Grime's B&C dogs were only brought in months later and any blood/cadaver traces on the sofa or between floor tiles might have been from previous or later occupants/staff who had been in 5A.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6011 on: May 11, 2025, 07:50:PM »
There was only a solitary hair of Brueckner's, which the BKA discovered years later could be linked to the violent assault and rape of Diana Menkes. Brueckner was fastidious and forensically aware in the case of Hazel Behan's four-hour rape; leaving his soiled shoes on the balcony outside her apartment and disposing of numerous condoms down the toilet. It appears the PJ didn't even do a proper job in collecting forensic evidence in 5A too, the crime scene being compromised well before being sealed off.

Grime's B&C dogs were only brought in months later and any blood/cadaver traces on the sofa or between floor tiles might have been from previous or later occupants/staff who had been in 5A.
I don't think the apartment was open to the general public after the incident. I may be wrong. It's a respectable view to hold that Maddie died in the apartment. It doesn't explain the dogs hitting on the hire car either.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6012 on: May 12, 2025, 04:47:PM »
Christian Brueckner is one seriously sick person.

"Further searches of the compound are reported to have revealed over 75 children's swimming costumes, toys, small bikes, and masks.

Three unlicensed firearms and ammunition were also said to have been found, along with bottles of substances suspected to be chloroform or ether - chemicals that can cause unconsciousness."


It's starting to look rather obvious it was Brueckner.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6013 on: May 12, 2025, 05:55:PM »
"Further searches of the compound are reported to have revealed over 75 children's swimming costumes, toys, small bikes, and masks.

Three unlicensed firearms and ammunition were also said to have been found, along with bottles of substances suspected to be chloroform or ether - chemicals that can cause unconsciousness."


It's starting to look rather obvious it was Brueckner.
Don't let Pat 'Know It All' Brown read that, fgs.

Seems to me his plentiful booty - swimming costumes and prescribed medicines were plundered from resort apartments like the Ocean Club and others along the Algarve coast. While ferreting through holidaymakers' suitcases, drawers and cupboards - "That little costume and those sleeping pills will come in handy for next kiddy I intend to molest!".

Wonder why the BKA didn't save and test all the pills and potions, which could have provided further valuable evidence of his methods of operation.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6014 on: May 12, 2025, 06:16:PM »
Don't let Pat 'Know It All' Brown read that, fgs.

Seems to me his plentiful booty - swimming costumes and prescribed medicines were plundered from resort apartments like the Ocean Club and others along the Algarve coast. While ferreting through holidaymakers' suitcases, drawers and cupboards - "That little costume and those sleeping pills will come in handy for next kiddy I intend to molest!".

Wonder why the BKA didn't save and test all the pills and potions, which could have provided further valuable evidence of his methods of operation.
If he's so good at covering his tracks why keep all the trophies?