The case of Madeleine McCann

[Roch]

I wouldn't go as far as saying he was a 'fan', just that he agreed with Brown's combined assessment of Bamber and New Zealander David Bain.

I think he harbours doubts about the McCann's over and above the criticisms normally aimed at them about leaving the children on their own.

[Curiosity]

There are likely to have been schemes and events set up in the wake of incidents like Jo Cox, Manchester etc. It's a tried and tested method of in use. The UK population are like aphids being milked by ants.  Having said that, I can't fathom how the McCanns have not cracked.  And I don't know what to make of the German suspect. The German police seem absolutely certain.

Wolters and the BKA will need to get a move on with their concealed evidence of murder they claim to have and more before Brueckner's planned release this coming Spring if he gets off these alleged indecent exposure and rape charges in the ongoing Braunschweig trial.

[handymanz]

The ever-loquacious Pat Brown blowing a gasket over ex-con Shaun Attwood and former PC plod Gary Waterman. Not that I agree with her skewed views regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance; i.e. she died by accident/overdose in apartment 5A and the McCanns secretly disposed of her body many miles from PdL after hiring a car weeks later. Brown has got a perpetual beef in her bonnet against the McCanns because they had her book on the case removed from sale on Amazon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImM-DltOV_s&ab_channel=ProfilingwithPatBrown

The link within that attachment you posted had some interesting reading.
https://mega.nz/folder/MiszUIxb#AzAhRycCoPYAabYdJ1-F7w

I think Waterman is saying Julia is Maddie just to get publicity. I agree about Pat Brown, she's no closer to the truth than anyone else.

[Steve_uk]

The ever-loquacious Pat Brown blowing a gasket over ex-con Shaun Attwood and former PC plod Gary Waterman. Not that I agree with her skewed views regarding Madeleine McCann's disappearance; i.e. she died by accident/overdose in apartment 5A and the McCanns secretly disposed of her body many miles from PdL after hiring a car weeks later. Brown has got a perpetual beef in her bonnet against the McCanns because they had her book on the case removed from sale on Amazon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImM-DltOV_s&ab_channel=ProfilingwithPatBrown

She's a criminal profiler, not a sensationalist. She's good at what she does.

[Steve_uk]

Steve is a fan of Pat Brown unless I am mistaken.

She looks at the evidence. Sometimes one is left with a less than satisfactory feeling after her shows, but that's just because the evidence is insufficient to draw a definitive conclusion.

[Steve_uk]

I wouldn't go as far as saying he was a 'fan', just that he agreed with Brown's combined assessment of Bamber and New Zealander David Bain.

Well, I don't mind being called a fan. I don't slavishly dote on her every word.

[Steve_uk]

I think he harbours doubts about the McCann's over and above the criticisms normally aimed at them about leaving the children on their own.

You have to admire her approach. We don't know the whole truth and may not ever. It's very difficult to balance the McCanns right to be deemed innocent until proven guilty and those who wish to speculate on what may have happened:

Tony Bennett: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/21/madeleine-mccann-contempt-case

Bernt Stellander: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=the+sudden+impulse+bernt+stellander+book&sca_esv=63ac0807f30938cd&sxsrf=ADLYWIJ5dPZ73Fq6muj-yBqiad9p05Z4AQ%3A1724094033025&ei=UZbDZt6TAaKlhbIPnaDoIQ&oq=the+sudden+impulse+bert&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiF3RoZSBzdWRkZW4gaW1wdWxzZSBiZXJ0KgIIATIHEAAYgAQYDTINEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEYDTILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogRI5SZQgwtY5RRwAXgBkAEAmAF4oAH5A6oBAzMuMrgBAcgBAPgBAZgCBqAClATCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgINEAAYgAQYsAMYQxiKBcICChAAGIAEGEMYigXCAgUQABiABMICBBAAGAPCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAZgDAIgGAZAGCZIHAzQuMqAH6xw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:f4fb90d0,vid:tRV-XA7ei1g,st:0

[Steve_uk]

Pat Brown and the book in audible form the McCanns took out an injunction to ban: https://youtu.be/Nk4jShWtJBM

[Cambridgecutie]

Pat Brown and the book in audible form the McCanns took out an injunction to ban: https://youtu.be/Nk4jShWtJBM

I will take the likes of PB seriously when I see evidence that those who were in close proximity to apartment 5a shortly before MM disappeared were interviewed as potential witnesses and suspects and ruled out.

[Steve_uk]

I will take the likes of PB seriously when I see evidence that those who were in close proximity to apartment 5a shortly before MM disappeared were interviewed as potential witnesses and suspects and ruled out.

I'm not sure what you mean. She's a criminal profiler. She looks at the cadaver dogs' evidence, the evidence that someone broke into the apartment ( or lack thereof), the possible locations for the concealment of Madeleine's body. How could you interview witnesses who don't come forward?

[Cambridgecutie]

I'm not sure what you mean. She's a criminal profiler. She looks at the cadaver dogs' evidence, the evidence that someone broke into the apartment ( or lack thereof), the possible locations for the concealment of Madeleine's body. How could you interview witnesses who don't come forward?

The McCanns have been absolved of any responsibility into the disappearance of MM, other than leaving her unsupervised in the first place 

Surely if you are carrying out an investigation into the disappearance of a child, or even an adult, the first port of call is to take a close look at those who were known to have been in close proximity around the time of the disappearance?

[Steve_uk]

The McCanns have been absolved of any responsibility into the disappearance of MM, other than leaving her unsupervised in the first place  )

Surely if you are carrying out an investigation into the disappearance of a child, or even an adult, the first port of call is to take a close look at those who were known to have been in close proximity around the time she disappeared?

That might be the official verdict of British police, but Portugal's Supreme Court takes a different stance. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11231591/Gloating-Portuguese-cop-says-McCanns-suspects-disappearance-Madeleine.html

[handymanz]

The McCanns have been absolved of any responsibility into the disappearance of MM, other than leaving her unsupervised in the first place 

Surely if you are carrying out an investigation into the disappearance of a child, or even an adult, the first port of call is to take a close look at those who were known to have been in close proximity around the time of the disappearance?

I've just watched bits of this video. Gerry's mate David Payne looks to be dodgy as.
Start from about 50 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAhVfrj1MrQ

[handymanz]

Also came across this.



https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-rental-car-trips-cell-phone-pings/9ad55a03-60b9-4b80-a727-10068372d993

[Steve_uk]

I've just watched bits of this video. Gerry's mate David Payne looks to be dodgy as.
Start from about 50 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAhVfrj1MrQ

There must have been at least three involved if there was a cover-up. The Tannerman sighting is also suspect.