Jonathan's Jeremy & Sheila scenarios.

[ILB]

JB can easily overpower Sheila but if she resits he cannot shoot her as he needs both hands on the rifle.

The face is the most instinctive place to strike.

If he plucks her in a fireman style carry from bed she will wake she will be bewildered.

He would have to use his weight on her while he shoots her.

[ILB]

He could have used threats and persuasion

Shelia had no signs of defensive injuries that would suggest a struggle.

He also I suppose would be keenly aware not to try and leave any marks upon her but at the same time not so damaging and it could be inferred she had sustained any abrasion while scrapping with Nevill

[Adam]

From her bed?

She can scratch his face

She can kick

I'm not arguing he couldn't overpower her but it's not an easy feat as made out.

She may tried that. In the 10 seconds before he shot her. If she woke.

No evidence on Bamber she did.

[ILB]

She may tried that. In the 10 seconds before he shot her. If she woke.

No evidence on Bamber she did.

That is correct and a fair assessment.

The biggest risk for Bamber in this whole affair was getting a visible facial mark that suggested he had been in some kind of scrap.

Bamber was hyper vigilant about marks though you can argue, he without prompting pointed out according to DB some scratches he had got on his hands.

[Adam]

Remember when I was 8 I went to bed at my father's friends house. The following morning I woke in my own bed at home.

My dad had carried me to the car, driven home, then carried me to my bed. Without me waking.

Sheila was so drowsy, be surprised if she woke at any time.

[ILB]

Remember when I was 8 I went to bed at my father's friends house. The following morning I woke in my own bed at home.

My dad had carried me to the car, driven home, then carried me to my bed. Without me waking.

Sheila was so drowsy, be surprised if she woke at any time.

She will have woken

He's had to use force.

[ILB]

Dont believe " Come on Shelia darling lie down " Bollocks which has been put forward before.

[Adam]

Dont believe " Come on Shelia darling lie down " Bollocks which has been put forward before.

Bamber knew her & was the last person to see her alive. So would have chosen his method.

[Cambridgecutie]

Does CC/KE/Curiosity/Munksa/Jonathan have a different scenario for each account?

Unlike you I have better things to do with my time than dream up multiple profiles and post under such. 

You are a complete and utter plank.  Does anyone else support your bizarre theories? 

Anyone with half a brain can see a) the usernames I use are highly feminised and b) writing is like a fingerprint in terms of word choice, punctuation, sentence length, grammatical structures, syntax, tone etc and this alone tells readers that CC/KE and Curiosity, Munska and Jonathan are not one and the same.

Can the moderators please call time on David's bizzare and disturbing obesessions.  Thank you.

[ILB]

Bamber knew her & was the last person to see her alive. So would have chosen his method.

Of course he knew her it was his sister, but she might have been disturbed by seeing Jeremy in her bedroom at 2am jn the morning.

They were not close.

[Cambridgecutie]

Of course he knew her it was his sister, but she might have been disturbed by seeing Jeremy in her bedroom at 2am jn the morning.

They were not close.

Does anyone ever know anyone even when they present as 'normal'?

Many who claim to have known Paul Doyle found his actions unfathomable and out of character. 

Did the adult children of Gisele Pelicot consider their father was drugging and raping their mother not only for his own perverse gratification but those of random strangers too?

I could go on and on but you get my drift. 

[ILB]

Does anyone ever know anyone even when they present as 'normal'?

Many who claim to have known Paul Doyle found his actions unfathomable and out of character. 

Did the adult children of Gisele Pelicot consider their father was drugging and raping their mother not only for his own perverse gratification but those of random strangers too?

I could go on and on but you get my drift.

Nobody knows anybody.

For all I know my partner may have an elaborate plan to kill me and move in with her new lover.

You only truly know yourself.

[Cambridgecutie]

Nobody knows anybody.

For all I know my partner may have an elaborate plan to kill me and move in with her new lover.

You only truly know yourself.

But if faced with a set of unique circumstances do we know how we would behave? 

[ILB]

But if faced with a set of unique circumstances do we know how we would behave?

No.

In many instances when someone has gone out and killed they probably couldn't have envisaged themselves in such  situation when they woke up in the morning.  It would seem surreal.

[Rob_]

The face is the most instinctive place to strike.

If he plucks her in a fireman style carry from bed she will wake she will be bewildered.

He would have to use his weight on her while he shoots her.

I think the shot is impossible if Sheila resists in any way, Bamber needs one hand on the trigger and the other holding the barrel. Sure he could shoot her but not a contact shot under the chin.