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Offline Hardy Boy

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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2025, 10:09:AM »
I had never seen such a window either. Although had never checked 

Bamber went searching for one in a big house. No surprise he found a window he could manipulate.

As with the 'last number dialled' portable phone, Julie's WS says he told her about the window.
I agree 100 per cent, he was upto something regarding the widows, we talk about not seeing a widow that would close from the outside, this was a old farmhouse with old windows and catches, held by screws that could loosen.  How many of us have climbed in and out windows in their life’s never mind in the last six months.  He had no need to use the windows and no excuse, he had a key and if June and Neville went out, they put a Key in the coal shed.

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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2025, 10:16:AM »
Bamber did not seen surprised that such a window existed in his police interview.

He didn't even ask 'which window'?
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2025, 10:19:AM »
All the other doors were bolted and the other windows were properly locked. The police had to smash a door down.

This was enough for the police to say WHF looked secure from the inside although the bottom handle of the kitchen window would not be in it's pegs. 
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2025, 10:22:AM »
Bamber did not seen surprised that such a window existed in his police interview.

He didn't even ask 'which window'?
He can’t deny he used the windows as a means of getting in,  he relied on the exiting the window.  He used Knifes and hacksaw blades in the past, and  if he found a way in, why can’t he find a way out.  Practice makes perfect and that’s what he was doing. 

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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2025, 10:28:AM »
EP & the relatives physically checked the kitchen window.

The prosecution had over a year to do there own checks. But may have just taken EP's word.

The defence had over a year to do there own checks. Suspect they did check.

Julie's WS was just repeating what Bamber told her.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2025, 10:32:AM by Adam »
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2025, 03:07:PM »
I cant see why Bamber would be championing a none starter like the window if it had been put to bed in 1986, he mentioned it 16 years later at the coa.

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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2025, 03:07:PM »
Surely Mark Newby et al would advise him against it.
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2025, 03:32:PM »
I cant see why Bamber would be championing a none starter like the window if it had been put to bed in 1986, he mentioned it 16 years later at the coa.

How will it help him?
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2025, 07:30:PM »
How will it help him?

That is the point.

If the judge dismissed it at trial why did he use it as a ground in 2002?

40 years later he is still trying to champion it to his advantage.

Surely his legal team would have advised him against such a strategy.
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2025, 08:25:PM »
That is the point.

If the judge dismissed it at trial why did he use it as a ground in 2002?

40 years later he is still trying to champion it to his advantage.

Surely his legal team would have advised him against such a strategy.

I can't see how the kitchen window will get a referral.

But appreciate you are being optimistic on it after the PSOR on other grounds.
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2025, 08:34:PM »
I can't see how the kitchen window will get a referral.

But appreciate you are being optimistic on it after the PSOR on other grounds.

Stop being a tit and trying to insult me. Put the fragile ego aside a second.

I am looking it from Bambers perspective.
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2025, 08:43:PM »
Bamber does throw a lot of rubbish at the case. Usually properganda. This keeps him in the media.

Some of it becomes a ground in an eventual failed CCRC submission.

On here Snow is running with the aga theory & ILB with the kitchen window. Both are rubbish.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2025, 08:44:PM by Adam »
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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2025, 09:18:PM »
Bamber does throw a lot of rubbish at the case. Usually properganda. This keeps him in the media.

Some of it becomes a ground in an eventual failed CCRC submission.

On here Snow is running with the aga theory & ILB with the kitchen window. Both are rubbish.
I dont think any of those points are rubbish, Adam!
If the windows were secured as documented by Taff, just how 'did' JB exit the White House?

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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2025, 09:19:PM »
I dont think any of those points are rubbish, Adam!
If the windows were secured as documented by Taff, just how 'did' JB exit the White House?
He probably had a knack after so many years it might have been hard for an outsider to accomplish.

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Re: Significance of the Aga burns theory
« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2025, 09:26:PM »
He probably had a knack after so many years it might have been hard for an outsider to accomplish.
To secure both catches, Steve? Barlow couldn't do it!