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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #495 on: October 26, 2024, 01:28:PM »
Very risky, with so many at Bourtree Cottage, including police.

Disagree.

It was murder suicide.

He was giving a WS as a bereaved relative. Not a suspect at all
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #496 on: October 26, 2024, 01:28:PM »
But where were they disposed of?

If he disposed of them, take your pick -

London
Burnham
Amsterdam
Eastbourne
Pevensey
Goldhanger
TD
St Tropez
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #497 on: October 26, 2024, 01:31:PM »
If he disposed of them, take your pick -

London
Burnham
Amsterdam
Eastbourne
Pevensey
Goldhanger
TD
St Tropez
I know, but they have to be stored somewhere in the meantime.

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #498 on: October 26, 2024, 01:34:PM »
All depends on how much blood he got on him

If he was covered then yes drastic measures needed.

If he had overalls on and just specks of blood he may have just chucked them back in wardrobe when he got back or put them in the washer on a short cycle and slung them back in the wardrobe.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #499 on: October 26, 2024, 01:35:PM »
People say your own blood being at a crime scene is the most damning evidence.

Your own blood being on your own clothes is not damning.

Nevill's blood being on Bamber's clothes would be decent evidence.

Suspect most of Nevill's bleeding was in the hours after the massacre. The kitchen attack resulted more in bruises and lacerations.

The rifle was long so there would be no blood spatter onto Bamber when he shot him.

But still a chance drops of Nevill's blood fell onto Bamber's clothes.
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« Reply #500 on: October 26, 2024, 01:36:PM »
I know, but they have to be stored somewhere in the meantime.

In his bedroom cupboard. Dry and washed.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #501 on: October 26, 2024, 01:40:PM »
People say your own blood being at a crime scene is the most damning evidence.

Your own blood being on your own clothes is not damning.

Nevill's blood being on Bamber's clothes would be decent evidence.

Suspect most of Nevill's bleeding was in the hours after the massacre. The kitchen attack resulted more in bruises and lacerations.

The rifle was long so there would be no blood spatter onto Bamber when he shot him.

But still a chance drops of Nevill's blood fell onto Bamber's clothes.

If I recall correctly June Jeremy and Shelia were A. Nevill and the boys were O. May be wrong would have to re check.

But as you say strong possibility only small amounts of blood would drop on him.

The evidence is that he himself suffered no lacerations.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #502 on: October 26, 2024, 01:43:PM »
The long gap between ringing Julie & the police, suggests he had decided to wash his clothes at Goldhanger.

He knew he couldn't leave to meet the police until the wash had finished & he had hung the clothes up.

So he had time to ring Julie.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #503 on: October 26, 2024, 01:44:PM »
Who knows what may have been discovered if the investigation had took a turn much earlier on forensic wise in regards to his clothes. We can never say never.

By the time Bamber was first nicked it was a month on.



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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #504 on: October 26, 2024, 01:45:PM »
DS Jones in his September interviews asked Bamber to "hold out his arms for him"

Pointless exercise due to been a month on, any small laceration would have healed.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #505 on: October 26, 2024, 01:47:PM »
The long gap between ringing Julie & the police, suggests he had decided to wash his clothes at Goldhanger.

He knew he couldn't leave to meet the police until the wash had finished & he had hung the clothes up.

So he had time to ring Julie.

If there is only minor spilling of blood on the garment he chose to wear he can wash it off with a wet cloth.

If he had worn farm overalls, which would probably be battered and covered in grease blood wouldn't even be noticeable if spilled on to the garment. Especially if a very small amount.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #506 on: October 26, 2024, 01:48:PM »
Bamber would have had the same approach to his clothes as to the silencer.

Both put away where they should be. Not part of the crime scene.

The difference was he washed his clothes, but not the silencer.
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« Reply #507 on: October 26, 2024, 01:50:PM »
The other difference was, the relatives had access to the silencer. Although doubt they would have found anything on his clothes.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #508 on: October 26, 2024, 01:50:PM »
Bamber would have had the same approach to his clothes as to the silencer.

Both put away where they should be. Not part of the crime scene.

The difference was he washed his clothes, but not the silencer.

A missing silencer would arouse suspicion to be honest.

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #509 on: October 26, 2024, 01:51:PM »
If there is only minor spilling of blood on the garment he chose to wear he can wash it off with a wet cloth.

If he had worn farm overalls, which would probably be battered and covered in grease blood wouldn't even be noticeable if spilled on to the garment. Especially if a very small amount.

I would just let the clothes spin while I showered, changed & rang Julie.

Nothing beats a machine wash.
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