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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #480 on: October 26, 2024, 01:00:PM »
At the moment I am leaning toward him putting a boiler suit over his clothing, farm overalls.

Once home just putting back in his wardrobe.

If the overalls are already battered and speck of blood will not be noticeable.

He also had a month to wash his clothes.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #481 on: October 26, 2024, 01:00:PM »
The easiest thing to do was -

Cycle back in his massacre clothes.

Put the clothes in the washing machine - a quick wash.

Ring Julie, shower, put new clothes on. Ring Chelmsford Police.

Hang the clothes up.

Leave to meet the police
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« Reply #482 on: October 26, 2024, 01:01:PM »
The farm had an incinerator.

And no doubt small burning bins.

Please provide the source.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #483 on: October 26, 2024, 01:02:PM »
The easiest thing to do was -

Cycle back in his massacre clothes.

Put the clothes in the washing machine - a quick wash.

Ring Julie, shower, put new clothes on. Ring Chelmsford Police.

Hang the clothes up.

Leave to meet the police

That is an easy thing to do in fairness, I agree.

Although your clothes stink when you do that.

Would have had to have been back in the wardrobe ASAP.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #484 on: October 26, 2024, 01:06:PM »
Please provide the source.

Quite why you'd question why a farm would have an incinerator or not escapes me, and I'm a city boy.
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« Reply #485 on: October 26, 2024, 01:07:PM »
Believe the clothes would not be too wet after the wash.

It was not a heavy load. The less you put in, the more the final drying spin will work
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« Reply #486 on: October 26, 2024, 01:07:PM »
Quite why you'd question why a farm would have an incinerator or not escapes me, and I'm a city boy.

Thank you.
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« Reply #487 on: October 26, 2024, 01:10:PM »
With the clothes washed and put away in his Goldhanger cupboard, he had the choice of disposing them later.

Of which he had lots of opportunities.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #488 on: October 26, 2024, 01:12:PM »
Osea is a holiday park she mentions.

She means she knows Bambers route is populated.

She most probably knows goldhanger and darcy intimately and the sea wall area.

I think De Ath needs to clarify for herself.


Wasn't her caravan at Osea Leisure?

How would she know what was JB's route? Which route? To where?

What makes you think she'd have had intimate knowledge of Goldhanger and D'arcy? It's a lot of sea wall from Osea to Goldhanger, and even more from Goldhanger to D'Arcy, going nowhere, from there, other than Tollesbury Marshes. then having to repeat the journey in the opposite direction.

Clarification would be good.

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #489 on: October 26, 2024, 01:13:PM »
With the clothes washed and put away in his Goldhanger cupboard, he had the choice of disposing them later.

Of which he had lots of opportunities.

Possibly.

I would want them gone ASAP off the scene.

Post massacre he was hardly alone. Julie brett, other people etc.
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« Reply #490 on: October 26, 2024, 01:17:PM »
In 2024 I would want the clothes disposed of ASAP.

In 1985, not so much.

On the massacre night he could only do so much. Clothes washed, hanging up & available to keep/dispose was enough.
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« Reply #491 on: October 26, 2024, 01:23:PM »
In 2024 I would want the clothes disposed of ASAP.

In 1985, not so much.

On the massacre night he could only do so much. Clothes washed, hanging up & available to keep/dispose was enough.

Forensics in regards to Bamber at WHF was a none starter in many regards. Finding fingerprints of him around the house would not mean anything. He was there all the time. Even if they had found his blood there. He could have offered up an innocent explanation for it being there.

Any blood on any clothing found could just be claimed to have come from a workplace accident if it was a small amount
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #492 on: October 26, 2024, 01:24:PM »
At the moment I am leaning toward him putting a boiler suit over his clothing, farm overalls.

Once home just putting back in his wardrobe.

If the overalls are already battered and speck of blood will not be noticeable.

He also had a month to wash his clothes.
Very risky, with so many at Bourtree Cottage, including police.

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #493 on: October 26, 2024, 01:25:PM »
In 2024 I would want the clothes disposed of ASAP.

In 1985, not so much.

On the massacre night he could only do so much. Clothes washed, hanging up & available to keep/dispose was enough.
But where were they disposed of?

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #494 on: October 26, 2024, 01:26:PM »
Washing machines do have a tumble dry option.

I have heard these are not very good. Even in 2024.

So doubt he would muck about with that. If it was an option.

I have never read that he had a tumble drying. So have to assume he hung up damp clothes.
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