Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.

[Rob_]

That was 22 points.

Rob automatically says AE would not need any information prior to the frame of the century.

Yes Adam all anyone needed to know was that a silencer in the cupboard with Sheila's blood in it would convict JB and notice I said anyone.

[David1819]

Yes Adam all anyone needed to know was that a silencer in the cupboard with Sheila's blood in it would convict JB and notice I said anyone.

Exactly. And it only worked because RIvlin QC never let the jury consider deliberate contamination.

[Rob_]

Exactly. And it only worked because RIvlin QC never let the jury consider deliberate contamination.

I hope this case David was the first and last time Rivlin QC defended anyone?

[lookout]

I hope this case David was the first and last time Rivlin QC defended anyone?

So do I ! I could have done better myself.

[killingeve]

Yes Adam all anyone needed to know was that a silencer in the cupboard with Sheila's blood in it would convict JB and notice I said anyone.

I think you mean Sheila's blood groupings shared by about 8% of the white British population.

At a minimum any 'planter' would need to know Sheila's groupings and have access to blood with those groupings. 

Forget David's diluted period blood theory because I can assure you 100% that conventional serological analysis of blood, used in this case, requires good quality dried blood of a certain quantity. 

[killingeve]

Exactly. And it only worked because RIvlin QC never let the jury consider deliberate contamination.

What do you think he was indirectly saying at trial when he asked Mr Bouflour snr and jnr if they had ever incurred cuts when handling firearms? 

[killingeve]

So do I ! I could have done better myself.

Of course you could!  Your explanation for Sheila's blood groupings in the silencer is that she removed it during the shootings and her own blood dripped into it! 

Your problem with the above is that Sheila did not incur any blood producing wounds until she received her own gunshot wounds in the main bedroom.  Therefore how could she possibly have removed the silencer, gone downstairs and put it back in the cupboard?

[lookout]

Of course you could!  Your explanation for Sheila's blood groupings in the silencer is that she removed it during the shootings and her own blood dripped into it! 

Your problem with the above is that Sheila did not incur any blood producing wounds until she received her own gunshot wounds in the main bedroom.  Therefore how could she possibly have removed the silencer, gone downstairs and put it back in the cupboard?

The blood in that silencer was a mixture of Nevill, June's and------because we know nothing about the covered wound below Sheila's abdomen ? her blood " group " as well, therefore risking contamination to the silencer which hadn't been a TRUE match to anyone.

Initially, a silencer had been found under the bed in Nevill and June's bedroom. Information is held !

[lookout]

This " withheld " information has and still is threatening the whole legal system. It's an archaic system and cases like this are still conducted behind closed doors to generally protect the innocent which is so wrong.

Innocent until proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt !

[killingeve]

The blood in that silencer was a mixture of Nevill, June's and------because we know nothing about the covered wound below Sheila's abdomen ? her blood " group " as well, therefore risking contamination to the silencer which hadn't been a TRUE match to anyone.

Initially, a silencer had been found under the bed in Nevill and June's bedroom. Information is held !

The jury heard all about the mixed blood theory and rejected it rightly so in my opinion.  Mr Bamber did not receive any contact shots and the expert, Mr Fletcher, said Mrs Bamber might have received one contact shot but he thought it unlikely.  How then did the blood groupings represent Mr and Mrs Bamber's?

You're right no one at rial mentioned the dressed wound on Sheila's abdomen.  Too late to assist Bamber now since it was something that could have been adjudicated on at trial.  I can only assume the defence did not seek to advance knowing it would not stand up under cross examination. 

[killingeve]

This " withheld " information has and still is threatening the whole legal system. It's an archaic system and cases like this are still conducted behind closed doors to generally protect the innocent which is so wrong.

Innocent until proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt !

Take it up with your MP.

[JackieD]

Take it up with your MP.

You are so irrelevant

https://youtu.be/_ZzxpKgaPgI

[JackieD]

Take it up with your MP.

We are here to discuss a potential miscarriage of justice not to take instructions from the likes of you

[lookout]

You are so irrelevant

https://youtu.be/_ZzxpKgaPgI

When all else fails, eh ? 

[killingeve]

You are so irrelevant

https://youtu.be/_ZzxpKgaPgI

It might be boring but its kept Bamber behind bars for over 36 years and it will continue to do so.