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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?
« Reply #1260 on: November 17, 2019, 01:17:PM »
In the event Jeremy Bamber wins an appeal has a retrial and is accquited. Would JM face any legal proceedings??

Possibly - for perjury, if it could be proved. However, when other defendants are acquitted, the witnesses against them aren't usually prosecuted - in rape cases, for example.

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« Reply #1261 on: November 17, 2019, 01:21:PM »
No, but without Julie's evidence, there was really only the silencer evidence. Everything else was fluff and speculation.



You see, it's this anomaly which concerns me about ANY case. A witness may be found to have said -or not said- something which leads to a convicted person being freed. However, being freed on a technicality doesn't make them innocent. When this sort of thing occurs, I start to get noble cause corruption. I must start to take my own heeding on board that we can never get anything 100% correct.

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« Reply #1262 on: November 17, 2019, 01:29:PM »


You see, it's this anomaly which concerns me about ANY case. A witness may be found to have said -or not said- something which leads to a convicted person being freed. However, being freed on a technicality doesn't make them innocent. When this sort of thing occurs, I start to get noble cause corruption. I must start to take my own heeding on board that we can never get anything 100% correct.

Hmmm, I'm not sure it would be a technicality. If that did happen, would it not be Julie's fault for doing the deal with the NOTW, involving a lot of money? 

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« Reply #1263 on: November 17, 2019, 01:33:PM »
Hmmm, I'm not sure it would be a technicality. If that did happen, would it not be Julie's fault for doing the deal with the NOTW, involving a lot of money?



I can see a determination to blame her for something, not that I'm suggesting it was alright for her to lie. I'd be interested to know if it was her decision or if she was told it would be 'acceptable'?

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« Reply #1264 on: November 17, 2019, 01:35:PM »


I can see a determination to blame her for something, not that I'm suggesting it was alright for her to lie. I'd be interested to know if it was her decision or if she was told it would be 'acceptable'?

Well look, if Julie did a deal with the NOTW whereby she gained a financial advantage dependent on a guilty verdict, do you not see how that could affect her credibility? I'm surprised her evidence was allowed tbh.

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« Reply #1265 on: November 17, 2019, 01:36:PM »
It was blood money - end of. Disgusting.

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« Reply #1266 on: November 17, 2019, 01:40:PM »
Well look, if Julie did a deal with the NOTW whereby she gained a financial advantage dependent on a guilty verdict, do you not see how that could affect her credibility? I'm surprised her evidence was allowed tbh.



I can, indeed, but it doesn't transform a guilty Jeremy into an innocent one.

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« Reply #1267 on: November 17, 2019, 01:42:PM »
Well look, if Julie did a deal with the NOTW whereby she gained a financial advantage dependent on a guilty verdict, do you not see how that could affect her credibility? I'm surprised her evidence was allowed tbh.

Not really, if she had a deal with the NOTW when she came forward with her story, I can see that would make a difference.
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« Reply #1268 on: November 17, 2019, 01:43:PM »
It was blood money - end of. Disgusting.

So was the inheritance.
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« Reply #1269 on: November 17, 2019, 01:44:PM »


I can, indeed, but it doesn't transform a guilty Jeremy into an innocent one.

Without Julie's evidence, what else is there? The silencer - that's about it.

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« Reply #1270 on: November 17, 2019, 01:44:PM »
So was the inheritance.

Inherited by the relatives? I agree. It should have gone to charity.

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« Reply #1271 on: November 17, 2019, 01:47:PM »
Inherited by the relatives? I agree. It should have gone to charity.

I don't think that's for us to say really - if Bamber is guilty, they were next in line.
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« Reply #1272 on: November 17, 2019, 01:49:PM »
I don't think that's for us to say really - if Bamber is guilty, they were next in line.

They made sure of that. I can say it if I like. There was a lot of money to be made with a guilty verdict. The evidence relating to the finding of the silencer was relevant - everything else was fluff.

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« Reply #1273 on: November 17, 2019, 01:53:PM »
They made sure of that. I can say it if I like. There was a lot of money to be made with a guilty verdict. The evidence relating to the finding of the silencer was relevant - everything else was fluff.

Well, that's your opinion - but just because you rubbish Julie's testimony, doesn't make it wrong. Not much of  afence sitter are you?  ;D ;D
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« Reply #1274 on: November 17, 2019, 01:59:PM »
Well, that's your opinion - but just because you rubbish Julie's testimony, doesn't make it wrong. Not much of  afence sitter are you?  ;D ;D

Oh I am. I make no secret of my opinion of Julie Mugford and the relatives. However, I haven't accused them of fabricating evidence, or making things up.