so wheres this forensic breakthrough then.

[lookout]

Lookout, Neville's head was smashed in with the rifle butt but I don't recall any tissue being found on that. It

Because the piece of the butt that broke off was never examined-----come to think, it wasn't spoken of much at all.

[Caroline]

Because the piece of the butt that broke off was never examined-----come to think, it wasn't spoken of much at all.

So tissue and bone would only cling to that one piece of the rifle? 

[Jane]

So tissue and bone would only cling to that one piece of the rifle? 

I'd have thought that tissue and bone would have adhered more to, and been more visible on a broad wooden surface than a more smaller metal one.

[Jane]

Yes but one bullett would not have killed him or stopped him disarming Sheila. That is if she fired one bullet & it was accurrate.

However if Sheila had a shot gun or powerful hand gun... 

Not sure Nevill would have tried to talk Sheila down. Maybe briefly. He would want her disarmed as soon as possible.

That "he would want her disarmed as soon as possible" very much suggests that Nevill did not, as you do, write the weapon off as being "weak". If it just so happened that the woman, whose knowledge of guns could be written on a postage stamp, pulled the trigger and accidentally aimed correctly, he'd be no less dead, mthan if he'd been shot by a marksman.

[Adam]

That "he would want her disarmed as soon as possible" very much suggests that Nevill did not, as you do, write the weapon off as being "weak". If it just so happened that the woman, whose knowledge of guns could be written on a postage stamp, pulled the trigger and accidentally aimed correctly, he'd be no less dead, mthan if he'd been shot by a marksman.

It took 8 bullets (6 in the head) and a brutal beating by Bamber to kill Nevill.

If Sheila somehow fired one accurrate bullet into Nevill's torso when he took the rifle off her, that would not stop him. It would irritate him as he would not be able to go straight back to bed.

[David1819]

It took 8 bullets (6 in the head) and a brutal beating by Bamber to kill Nevill.

If Sheila somehow fired one accurrate bullet into Nevill's torso when he took the rifle off her, that would not stop him. It would irritate him as he would not be able to go straight back to bed.

He was shot twice in the jaw/neck, once in the arm and one bullet grazed his torso. He was then shot another four times in the head later after he was already dead.

Get your facts right.

[Adam]

He was shot twice in the jaw/neck, once in the arm and one bullet grazed his torso. He was then shot another four times in the head later after he was already dead.

Get your facts right.

Jaw, neck. Just as bad as a head shot.

Bamber shot him 4 times in the head after the brutal kitchen beating. Nevill would have been knocked out as Bamber hit him so hard the rifle stock broke. However Nevill would have still been breathing,  so Bamber shot him 4 times in the head.

The slim chance of Sheila hitting Nevill with a torso shot would not have deterred or stopped him.

Nevill ringing Bamber after Sheila started shooting the twins. Get real.

[lookout]

So tissue and bone would only cling to that one piece of the rifle? 

Always supposing that it was the rifle used----yes. As I said, it was more or less ignored so far as evidence was concerned.

[lookout]

Where was the rear staircase off the kitchen ? Where did it lead to ?

[David1819]

Jaw, neck. Just as bad as a head shot.

Bamber shot him 4 times in the head after the brutal kitchen beating. Nevill would have been knocked out as Bamber hit him so hard the rifle stock broke. However Nevill would have still been breathing,  so Bamber shot him 4 times in the head.

The slim chance of Sheila hitting Nevill with a torso shot would not have deterred or stopped him.

Nevill ringing Bamber after Sheila started shooting the twins. Get real.

The pathologist testified that he only had a “little time” left to live after the initial four shots upstairs. The shots to the arm, jaw/neck and torso was all in quick succession.

[Roch]

Regarding the posts the other day, this is the area where the trails go out of view.

[David1819]

Regarding the posts the other day, this is the area where the trails go out of view.

What about them?

[Roch]

What about them?

It's not a very good image but they appear to fade and taper.

[Roch]

What about them?

What I am interested in trying to understand is the exact difference between yours and Caroline's opinion on these marks.

[David1819]

It's not a very good image but they appear to fade and taper.

They seem to smudge yes. I believe this is what created what seems to be be fingers marks but are not.