Video re photographs non-disclosure

[lookout]

Who was it who Sheila thought she was ? That's a Personality Disorder !

[Jane]

Who was it who Sheila thought she was ? That's a Personality Disorder !

No! It isn't. Under the influence of mental illness patients may believe they're someone else. THAT is a symptom of the mental illness, NOT a personality disorder. Personality disorder CANNOT be cured. Mental illness can. When it's under control/cured the patient's own personality surfaces again.

[lookout]

No! It isn't. Under the influence of mental illness patients may believe they're someone else. THAT is a symptom of the mental illness, NOT a personality disorder. Personality disorder CANNOT be cured. Mental illness can. When it's under control/cured the patient's own personality surfaces again.

Personality Disorder comes under the umbrella of mental illness.

[lookout]

It is what it states---------a disorder of your personality which gives out a list as long as your arm on the type of disorder you suffer from.

[Jane]

I don't have a problem ! I am who I am and don't wish or crave to be anyone else.
The problem is " cured " in much the same way as many others, counselling support and medication followed by a determination to get better.
I imagine there are many who suffer this problem by not accepting who they are with a need to emulate others. Depends how easily led one is I suppose.

Which is EXACTLY how those with personality disorders see themselves, ie We're just fine, thank-you. We don't have a problem. We're all capable of change, but only within certain parameters. We can't be OTHER than who we are. SOME may have been forced, from childhood, into becoming other than who they really are -it has NOTHING to do with being "easily led" -they're likely to feel lost. Counselling MAY help, providing they're aware enough that life could be better for them. Medication, unless depression has set in, WON'T. NONE of the aforementioned has anything to do with personality disorder.

[lookout]

Which is EXACTLY how those with personality disorders see themselves, ie We're just fine, thank-you. We don't have a problem. We're all capable of change, but only within certain parameters. We can't be OTHER than who we are. SOME may have been forced, from childhood, into becoming other than who they really are -it has NOTHING to do with being "easily led" -they're likely to feel lost. Counselling MAY help, providing they're aware enough that life could be better for them. Medication, unless depression has set in, WON'T. NONE of the aforementioned has anything to do with personality disorder.

I am fine though and have never wanted nor wished to be anyone else.
Easily led by copying others-------don't you understand ? Some people only have to don a hat and their personality changes. What's that about ? I get told that " I'm no different and haven't changed " My answer usually is " that I should hope not ". Imagine being a different person every time you met someone ?

[lookout]

Also the use of maggots for ulcerated legs.

[lookout]

Hope you're not having spaghetti in tomato sauce for dinner.

[Jane]

I've seen venesection ( blood-letting ) done by leeches.

I believe they're being used again in the very successful treatment of ulcerated legs?

[Caroline]

   You're welcome, Jackie. I think there is more to come yet.

There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".

[Jane]

There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".

PHEW! 'Twas hardly the kind of SOC for a raw rookie to cut his teeth on!!!

[Jan]

There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".

So what is the relevance of this information? He may have been too green round the edges to understand the implication of indexing and recording the scenes fully ? He would have to be guided by others ? Take instructions ? 

[Jane]

So what is the relevance of this information? He may have been too green round the edges to understand the implication of indexing and recording the scenes fully ? He would have to be guided by others ? Take instructions ?

Who do you think took time out from that carnage to "instruct" a rookie? I think it would have been a question of every man getting on with the job they were trained for as best they could.

[Caroline]

So what is the relevance of this information? He may have been too green round the edges to understand the implication of indexing and recording the scenes fully ? He would have to be guided by others ? Take instructions ?

The relevance is that when I received a reply, I promised to post it. The counter argument was that he was an expert - he wasn't and neither you nor I know if he was guided by others or not - he certainly doesn't indicate that he was.

[Caroline]

Who do you think took time out from that carnage to "instruct" a rookie? I think it would have been a question of every man getting on with the job they were trained for as best they could.

I am sure he did that but he was no expert.