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[Caroline]

My soul tells me the same if you must know. Middle-aged and elderly have no place in prison.

Eh? Where should they be? So no matter what the crime, once someone is deemed middle  aged or elderly, they should be released?

[lookout]

Eh? Where should they be? So no matter what the crime, once someone is deemed middle  aged or elderly, they should be released?

I originally meant the relatives and Mugford after 30 odd years----------that they wouldn't be imprisoned or shouldn't be if found to have perjured their ways through the trial.
I don't like to hear of elderly people in jail, no but I DIDN'T say they should be released----you said that !

[Roch]

I originally meant the relatives and Mugford after 30 odd years----------that they wouldn't be imprisoned or shouldn't be if found to have perjured their ways through the trial.
I don't like to hear of elderly people in jail, no but I DIDN'T say they should be released----you said that !

Their names carry a taint and that is likely to be their only 'sentence'.

[lookout]

Their names carry a taint and that is likely to be their only 'sentence'.

My thoughts too. 

[Caroline]

I originally meant the relatives and Mugford after 30 odd years----------that they wouldn't be imprisoned or shouldn't be if found to have perjured their ways through the trial.
I don't like to hear of elderly people in jail, no but I DIDN'T say they should be released----you said that !

As usual, you are full of contadictions and not making much sense - Juile Mugford isn't elderly (by the way).

[Caroline]

Their names carry a taint and that is likely to be their only 'sentence'.

Only for the few who believe Bamber innocent.

[lookout]

As usual, you are full of contadictions and not making much sense - Juile Mugford isn't elderly (by the way).

Middle-aged 

[Caroline]

Middle-aged 

I think this is the silliest argument yet!

[lookout]

I think this is the silliest argument yet!

Well of course you would.

[Jane]

Well of course you would.

So what's the age limit you believe should exempt people from prison?

[lookout]

So what's the age limit you believe should exempt people from prison?

Depending on their overall state of health, not beyond 60. A rehabilitation unit would be better served as a correctional building for those prisoners/offenders whose mental/ physical health is impaired rather than a prison cell and everything that goes with it.
Old age is horrendous if you haven't got good health and prison isn't the place to improve it. To start with those who commit crime be it petty or heinous already suffer mental health issues or they wouldn't commit crime would they ? We all hopefully know right from wrong, but these people don't it's as simple as that and prison is no place to learn.
The whole prison system needs overhauling anyway, but left to who's in charge  I can't see that happening any time soon if Birmingham's anything to go by.

 

[Jane]

Depending on their overall state of health, not beyond 60. A rehabilitation unit would be better served as a correctional building for those prisoners/offenders whose mental/ physical health is impaired rather than a prison cell and everything that goes with it.
Old age is horrendous if you haven't got good health and prison isn't the place to improve it. To start with those who commit crime be it petty or heinous already suffer mental health issues or they wouldn't commit crime would they ? We all hopefully know right from wrong, but these people don't it's as simple as that and prison is no place to learn.
The whole prison system needs overhauling anyway, but left to who's in charge  I can't see that happening any time soon if Birmingham's anything to go by.

Where is there evidence that those who commit crime.........................suffer mental health issues? If they think they're too clever to get caught, it may suggest personality disorders, but such don't constitute mental illness.

[lookout]

Personality disorder doesn't constitute mental illness ??
 It's how it reads to me !

[Jane]

Personality disorder doesn't constitute mental illness ??
 It's how it reads to me !

How d'ya make that out? We may not like each other's personalities, but there's sod all squared that either of us can do about it because there's no pill which will cure it. Those who are mentally ill don't necessarily have personality disorders when they're well. Mental illness, if it can't be cured, can be controlled. A personality disorder is part of who a person is.

[lookout]

How d'ya make that out? We may not like each other's personalities, but there's sod all squared that either of us can do about it because there's no pill which will cure it. Those who are mentally ill don't necessarily have personality disorders when they're well. Mental illness, if it can't be cured, can be controlled. A personality disorder is part of who a person is.

Personality Disorder does count as a mental illness. Personality without the disorder is part of a person's makeup.