Mystery, of the missing follower plate markings on the batch of 25 spent cases..

[mike tesko]

Nigel, your 'A STAR'...

What springs to mind instantaneously is that this had something to do with the other 7 bullets all having originated from the batch of Anthony Pargeters batch of .22 ammunition, which as you know consisted of a variety of different types of manufactured .22 ammunitions, including the fact that the 2 rounds used in the shooting of Sheila, albeit 1 of these rounds was fired via the second rifle, whereas the other 1 was fired via the anshuzt rifle...

I think that when the experiment was performed at the Lab' involving volunteers who only loaded 18 bullets into the magazine was because Jeremy told the police that he had loaded up the magazine, so if Sheila had been the shooter, she would have needed to reload at least 15, or more rounds into the ammunition magazine in order to be able to carry out the shootings if it had only been a one gun crime (but I think it was a 2 gun crime)!

[mike tesko]

Here, look at this...

Do you see the tentative link between the eventual death of Princess Diana, and the whf tragedy involving these five deaths, and of course, the involvement of the very same pathologist, Peter Venezis?

[Nigel]

2002 report below..


248. During this conversation the appellant said he saw rabbits outside the
house so he took the .22 rifle from the office/den, loaded it with eight to ten rounds from a box of ammunition that he left in the kitchen and went outside. In fact he fired no shots outside and he then left the gun in the kitchen having removed the magazine and the bullet which was in the breach. The appellant said he had left the farmhouse shortly before 10 p.m. Nobody then appeared distressed and he drove home. He went to bed at about 11 p.m.

Okay so minimum of 8 max 10 according to Jeremy..

So 8 (minimum) + 17 = 25

Still not 18?

[mike tesko]

2002 report below..


248. During this conversation the appellant said he saw rabbits outside the
house so he took the .22 rifle from the office/den, loaded it with eight to ten rounds from a box of ammunition that he left in the kitchen and went outside. In fact he fired no shots outside and he then left the gun in the kitchen having removed the magazine and the bullet which was in the breach. The appellant said he had left the farmhouse shortly before 10 p.m. Nobody then appeared distressed and he drove home. He went to bed at about 11 p.m.

Okay so minimum of 8 max 10 according to Jeremy..

So 8 (minimum) + 17 = 25

Still not 18?

I know about this contradiction - it's what I have been trying to fathom out for nigh on three decades...

The bottom line, is that 18 bullets were originally sent to the lab', and that this either excluded the 2 rounds (PV/19 and PV/20) used in the shooting of Sheila Caffell, or that the 2 bullets attributed as being recovered from the pillow in the main bedroom (DRH/35(a), and DRH/35(b), were themselves excluded, (18 + 2 = 20), plus the 5 loose bullets (DRH/5, DRH/9, DRH/35(a), DRH/35(b), and DRH/36)...

[Nigel]

I know about this contradiction - it's what I have been trying to fathom out for nigh on three decades...

The bottom line, is that 18 bullets were originally sent to the lab', and that this either excluded the 2 rounds (PV/19 and PV/20) used in the shooting of Sheila Caffell, or that the 2 bullets attributed as being recovered from the pillow in the main bedroom (DRH/35(a), and DRH/35(b), were themselves excluded, (18 + 2 = 20), plus the 5 loose bullets (DRH/5, DRH/9, DRH/35(a), DRH/35(b), and DRH/36)...

Is there any possibility the 7 were not sent with the 18 because they (the 7) were fired by a different rifle or differed in some way to the 18?

[mike tesko]

Seems rather odd to me this number 18 appearing twice at the lab....

It must be something to do with the substitution of bullets out of the original batch of 25, that were subsequestly switched, by replacing them with unofficial test fired rounds which they fired via the Anshuzt rifle post the date of the tragedy, because there were only a total of (7) .22 LR Bullets identified in the investigation (18 +  (7) = 25)...

But, whoever did this did not bargain for people like us coming along and noticing this contradiction, inconsistency, etc...