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Offline mike tesko

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I am now report, that evidence is available confirming that Essex police and it's ballistic expert, faked the batch of crime scene ammunition for the sole purpose of presenting these shootings as a one gun crime, and that these introduced at least 3 test fired rounds (bullets) into the batch of 25 crime scene bullets...

It has been well documented here, that I have exposed the way with which, the original piece of badly fragmented bullet that was PV/20...

Here, I demonstrate by a reliance upon the fact that during the autopsies performed by Peter Venezis, he did not recover a total of 3 bullets from the corpses of the twin victims - one of these 3 missing bullets can be accounted for by reference to exhibit DRH/36 which was a loose bullet found inside the twins bedroom, but 2 other bullets were never recovered...

This is astonishing, since with 2 bullets unrecovered, and a total of 25 bullets, or parts of a bullet, or a fragment of a bullet, and only 25 spent cartridge cases found at the scene, and only 25 bullet entry wounds, and a total of only 5 exit wounds, how could a further 2 bullets be unaccounted for?

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A total of 1 bullets which were not recovered from the corpses of the twins during autopsy performed by Peter Venesis on 8th August 1985, remain improperly accounted for, because with these 1 unrecovered bullets there should have been 26 bullet entry wounds, 26 spent cartridge cases, and 26 crime scene bullets!!!!!!!!

1. Bullets not recovered, 1 missing bullet entry wounds, and 1 missing spent cartridge cases!
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But...

A total of 2 bullets which were not recovered from the corpses of the twins during autopsy performed by Peter Venesis on 8th August 1985, remain improperly accounted for, because with these 2 unrecovered bullets there should have been 27 bullet entry wounds, 27 spent cartridge cases, and 27 crime scene bullets!!!!!!!!

2. Bullets not recovered, 2 missing bullet entry wounds, 2 missing spent cartridge cases!

What we are dealing with here, is a massive State cover up, involving Essex police, Special Branch, the Coroner,  the ballistic expert, the blood expert, anfpd of course, the Pathologist, Peter Venezis!
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What we are dealing with here, is a massive State cover up, involving Essex police, Special Branch, the Coroner,  the ballistic expert, the blood expert, anfpd of course, the Pathologist, Peter Venezis!

Let me deal with the involvement of Peter Venezis...

Remember, he is also at the heart of the Princess Diana debacle...
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Let me deal with the involvement of Peter Venezis...

Remember, he is also at the heart of the Princess Diana debacle...

He it was, who recovered a total of 25 bullets, parts of a bullet, or a fragment of a bullet, from the corpses of the five victims, during autopsies that he performed on the bodies of the victims, 7th and 8th August 1985...

What I have discovered, relates to the total number of bullets, etc, that 'he' recovered from the corpses of the twin boy victims - just to hit the nail on the head, these were (1) - PV/29, (2) -  PV/30, (3) - PV/31, (4) - PV/34, (5) - PV/35 and (6) - PV/36
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He it was, who recovered a total of 25 bullets, parts of a bullet, or a fragment of a bullet, from the corpses of the five victims, during autopsies that he performed on the bodies of the victims, 7th and 8th August 1985...

What I have discovered, relates to the total number of bullets, etc, that 'he' recovered from the corpses of the twin boy victims - just to hit the nail on the head, these were (1) - PV/29, (2) -  PV/30, (3) - PV/31, (4) - PV/34, (5) - PV/35 and (6) - PV/36

Here is the current delemna...

Daniel Caffell, shot 5 times, he had 5 bullet entry wounds with no exits wounds - Venezis only recovered 4 bullets, or parts of a bullet, or a fragment of a bullet from this child victim (PV/29,  PV/34, PV/35 and PV/36)! Whilst Venezis, recovered only 2 bullets, or parts of a bullet, or a fragment of a bullet, from Nicholas Caffell (PV/30, and PV/31) - but according to the autopsy diagrams Nicholas endured a solitary exit wound which must relate to bullet DRH/36 found in the twins bedroom...

We therefore have an anomaly, 8 bullet entry wounds inflicted upon the child victims, 8 spent cartridge cases recovered from the bedroom where they slept and died, but only 7 bullets accounted for (6 from the corpses during Venezia's autopsies, and a single loose bullet found in the bedroom where the child victims were found!
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Here is the current delemna...

Daniel Caffell, shot 5 times, he had 5 bullet entry wounds with no exits wounds - Venezis only recovered 4 bullets, or parts of a bullet, or a fragment of a bullet from this child victim (PV/29,  PV/34, PV/35 and PV/36)! Whilst Venezis, recovered only 2 bullets, or parts of a bullet, or a fragment of a bullet, from Nicholas Caffell (PV/30, and PV/31) - but according to the autopsy diagrams Nicholas endured a solitary exit wound which must relate to bullet DRH/36 found in the twins bedroom...

We therefore have an anomaly, 8 bullet entry wounds inflicted upon the child victims, 8 spent cartridge cases recovered from the bedroom where they slept and died, but only 7 bullets accounted for (6 from the corpses during Venezia's autopsies, and a single loose bullet found in the bedroom where the child victims were found!

Seems to me, that these conspirators have 'shot themselves in the foot', since in their haste to frame Jeremy Bamber as the murderer, they dropped a humongous clanger concerning the batch of crime scene ammunition, the no. Of bullet entry wounds, and the no. Of spent cartridge cases recovered at the scene!
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Seems to me, that these conspirators have 'shot themselves in the foot', since in their haste to frame Jeremy Bamber as the murderer, they dropped a humongous clanger concerning the batch of crime scene ammunition, the no. Of bullet entry wounds, and the no. Of spent cartridge cases recovered at the scene!

As things have stood for going on 32 years, Jeremy Bamber has stood convicted of having committed crimes, involving the shooting dead of 5 members of his own family, who it was claimed at his trial, and ever since, including the failed 2002 appeal, of (he) having fired a total of 25 bullets callously causing these deaths, based upon there having been only 25 bullet entry wounds, the recovery of 25 bullet cartridge cases, and 25 corresponding bullets either from the bodies of victims (20), or the scene (5), and yet everyone has 'OVERLOOKED' the single bullet which the pathologist, Peter Venezis failed to recover from the head of Daniel Caffell...

What this demonstrates is that the State in all its glory, has dropped a humongous clanger, in their haste to prosecute and to convict Jeremy Bamber of these murders, they basically have stitched him up, by tampering with the batches of crime scene ammunition (bullets and spent cartridge cases), the silencers, the blood and paint evidence...

Peter Venesis, pathologist 'is at the heart' of this conspiracy!
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As things have stood for going on 32 years, Jeremy Bamber has stood convicted of having committed crimes, involving the shooting dead of 5 members of his own family, who it was claimed at his trial, and ever since, including the failed 2002 appeal, of (he) having fired a total of 25 bullets callously causing these deaths, based upon there having been only 25 bullet entry wounds, the recovery of 25 bullet cartridge cases, and 25 corresponding bullets either from the bodies of victims (20), or the scene (5), and yet everyone has 'OVERLOOKED' the single bullet which the pathologist, Peter Venezis failed to recover from the head of Daniel Caffell...

What this demonstrates is that the State in all its glory, has dropped a humongous clanger, in their haste to prosecute and to convict Jeremy Bamber of these murders, they basically have stitched him up, by tampering with the batches of crime scene ammunition (bullets and spent cartridge cases), the silencers, the blood and paint evidence...

Peter Venesis, pathologist 'is at the heart' of this conspiracy!

Venezis knows (as I do) that he did not recover the 26th bullet from the corpse of Daniel Caffell!
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Daniel Caffell, shot 5 times, had 5 bullet entry wounds, but Venezis only recovered 4 bullets, part bullets, or fragments of a bullet from this deceased who did not have any exit wounds!
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Two child victims, Daniel (5) and Nicholas Caffell (3), shot according to the evidence as relied upon by the Crown at Bambers trial, a total of 8 times between them, yet only 6 bullets recovered by way of autopsy, and a solitary bullet recovered from the bedroom where they both slept when shot and killed! Nicholas Caffell being the only victim inside that bedroom who spotted an exit wound...
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Mike,

From the 2002 report, they only tested 18 bullets:

100. "Following removal of the bags at the mortuary, Sheila Caffell's hands
and forehead were swabbed. Extremely low traces of lead were detected when the swabs were examined. Such levels being consistent with the levels found from the handling of every day things around the house. These results were compared to hand swabs taken from volunteers at the laboratory who were required to load the magazine with eighteen rounds of ammunition. Significantly higher
traces of lead were found than those recorded on the hands of Mrs Caffell. The scientist Mr Elliott gave evidence that if Sheila Caffell had loaded eighteen cartridges into a magazine he would have expected the hand swabs to have revealed appreciably higher deposits of lead."

Is there a reason they only loaded 18 not 25 bullets?

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Two child victims, Daniel (5) and Nicholas Caffell (3), shot according to the evidence as relied upon by the Crown at Bambers trial, a total of 8 times between them, yet only 6 bullets recovered by way of autopsy, and a solitary bullet recovered from the bedroom where they both slept when shot and killed! Nicholas Caffell being the only victim inside that bedroom who spotted an exit wound...

Question marks now hang over the reputation of the pathologist, Peter Venezis!!!
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Mike,

From the 2002 report, they only tested 18 bullets:

100. "Following removal of the bags at the mortuary, Sheila Caffell's hands
and forehead were swabbed. Extremely low traces of lead were detected when the swabs were examined. Such levels being consistent with the levels found from the handling of every day things around the house. These results were compared to hand swabs taken from volunteers at the laboratory who were required to load the magazine with eighteen rounds of ammunition. Significantly higher
traces of lead were found than those recorded on the hands of Mrs Caffell. The scientist Mr Elliott gave evidence that if Sheila Caffell had loaded eighteen cartridges into a magazine he would have expected the hand swabs to have revealed appreciably higher deposits of lead."

Is there a reason they only loaded 18 not 25 bullets?

thanks

Do you think it was 18 because 7 were fired from the PARGETOR rifle?
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Question marks now hang over the reputation of the pathologist, Peter Venezis!!!

I cannot believe that Venezis has dropped such a fundamental clanger, and that in the 32 years which have elapsed, until now, that he has not sought to rectify this highly significant discrepancy, so as to extrapolate himself from this cover up, and the false case relied upon at Jeremy Bambers 1988 trial, and since!
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Do you think it was 18 because 7 were fired from the PARGETOR rifle?

Nigel, your 'A STAR'...

What springs to mind instantaneously is that this had something to do with the other 7 bullets all having originated from the batch of Anthony Pargeters batch of .22 ammunition, which as you know consisted of a variety of different types of manufactured .22 ammunitions, including the fact that the 2 rounds used in the shooting of Sheila, albeit 1 of these rounds was fired via the second rifle, whereas the other 1 was fired via the anshuzt rifle...
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