Is there a budding Sir Patrick Moore or Brian May out there?

[mike tesko]

With Neville Bamber, being that 'unidentified male' that Bews, Myall and Jeremy had seen standing at the parents bedroom window, at some time around 4.00am to 4.02am, it destroys the prosecution's case, for example, that Neville Bamber had not made a telephone call to Jeremy, as claimed by Jeremy, when in fact he had done, and did! Furthermore, Neville had then phoned the police himself at 3.26am, ' Daughter has gone berserk', etc, etc, etc...

This has other consequences, since the dripped blood in the vicinity of the parents bedroom window, around the foot of the bed, and on the bedroom carpet below where Sheila Caffell's body ended up eventually, may have been dripped there from the body of Neville Bamber after he attended his badly wounded wife June Bamber who had been shot a total of 7 times during the tragedy, 5 times non fatally!  I can envisage Neville attending to his wife and getting her blood upon his person, and him being the person at the parents bedroom window dripping his wife's blood on parts of the carpet in that vicinity and elsewhere, and that June Bambers body never left the bed at all, until senior officers moved it to the main bedroom door during the secretive 'informatives' they performed accompanied by the first team of SOCO from police Headquarters, DC Oakey and DC Henderson...

[mike tesko]

Guilters would want it to be any room except 'Box Room' / room dividing Twins Room.


'Free Jeremy Bamber supporters' would want it to be the 'Box Room' / room dividing Twins Room.All I would want it to be, is the actual room that Bews was / is referring to, a problem soon rectified by showing Bews a plan of the premises, and photographs showing front, back and sides, and asking him outright 'tell us in plain English which window you are talking about, on which side of the farmhouse'?

Why?

4 different police officers noticing something in that room, 'Box Room' / room dividing Twins Room. but, to my knowledge News and Myall never took issue with the glass of the box room window having a 'trick of light' feature associated to it?

Sheilla body was found feet away from door way of that Room. it's debates whether or not Sheila's body was found originally only feet away on the parents bedroom floor, considering that her body has been talked about as being present Downstairs in the kitchen, and on top of the bed in the parents bedroom, before it ended up on the bedroom floor!

Does not take a genius to realise the 'Box Room' / room dividing Twins is key. I always thought it did, but initially for different reasons.

The evidence which is of interest involving the box room and it's window, is the fact that the rifle appeared there at the box room window, before it eventually got photographed in the possession of Sheila Caffell's body on the parents bedroom floor! Somewhere in-between these two locations, the rifle was said by various police officers to have been resting at the parents bedroom window, it was resting on the bed in-between the bodies of June Bamber and Sheila Caffell', and so somebody other than Jeremy Bamber had moved and repositioned the rifle during the operation to stage her death scene there on the parents bedroom floor!

 If it be true, for example, that the person who staged Sheila's death scene as a suicide 'is her killer', look no further than the police, themselves!!!

[Nigel]

All I would want it to be, is the actual room that Bews was / is referring to, a problem soon rectified by showing Bews a plan of the premises, and photographs showing front, back and sides, and asking him outright 'tell us in plain English which window you are talking about, on which side of the farmhouse'?

Yes it would be good to know which room he meant, very very good.

Whether it is either one of the two box rooms, or Sheilla's room.
I've managed to just about hone it down to these three possible rooms!

Would also be interesting to know which room the 12 jury members thought it was, but I don't think that will ever be possible.

[mike tesko]

Seems to me, that Bews, Myall and Saxby, are at the heart of everything wrong in this case! Since, (a) they weren't present at Witham police station to answer Jeremy's call there at about 3.28am / 3.29am, (b) they were deployed to the incident (3.35am) prior to Jeremy contacting PC West at 3.36am and raising the alarm, (c) Bews and Myall saw a person moving around in the bedroom via the parents bedroom window, but chose to remain silent about it, because to speak out about it would collapse the prosecution's case against Jeremy (d) the contents of Bews situation report from the scene to the police control room, immediately after the sighting of the figure stood at the parents bedroom window, when Bews requested that the firearms team be deployed to the incident (e) the various police messages that were passed from the scene to the control room by the occupants 'CA07' where mention is made of two bodies found upon entry to the premises, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, a murder and a suicide (f) the message they relayed from the scene to the control room at 8.10am, that the other three victims bodies had all been found upstairs!

[mike tesko]

There can be no doubt whatsoever in this case, that Essex police have disturbed the various crimes scenes inside the farmhouse, and re-arranged it and presented the rearranged results, as though this was how the bodies had been found upon first entry to the premises by the police! They used two teams of SOCO during this exercise, the first SOCO team from headquarters compromising of DC Oakey and DC Henderson, who videod the positions of the bodies, and took photographs of the same, whilst senior officers went about trying to construct a plausible death scene overall, with Sheila being at the hub of this activity, they staged her death to promote the idea that she had taken her own life!

Why did Essex police go to such lengths, if Sheila had in fact taken her own life?

[mike tesko]

There can be no doubt whatsoever in this case, that Essex police have disturbed the various crimes scenes inside the farmhouse, and re-arranged it and presented the rearranged results, as though this was how the bodies had been found upon first entry to the premises by the police! They used two teams of SOCO during this exercise, the first SOCO team from headquarters compromising of DC Oakey and DC Henderson, who videod the positions of the bodies, and took photographs of the same, whilst senior officers went about trying to construct a plausible death scene overall, with Sheila being at the hub of this activity, they staged her death to promote the idea that she had taken her own life!

Why did Essex police go to such lengths, if Sheila had in fact taken her own life?

The absolute truth, is that although a second team of SOCO attended the incident by 9.20am (Cook, Davidson, Hammersley and Bird), they were prevented from taking control of the scene for a further 40 minutes whilst senior officers staged everything inside the farmhouse as they wanted it to be recorded by Cooks second team!

Photographic albums were tampered with, so that any photographs which might tend to support the case for senior officers having done what they did, were removed and kept under lock and key in ACC 'Peter' Simpsons office safe!

[mike tesko]

The absolute truth, is that although a second team of SOCO attended the incident by 9.20am (Cook, Davidson, Hammersley and Bird), they were prevented from taking control of the scene for a further 40 minutes whilst senior officers staged everything inside the farmhouse as they wanted it to be recorded by Cooks second team!

Photographic albums were tampered with, so that any photographs which might tend to support the case for senior officers having done what they did, were removed and kept under lock and key in ACC 'Peter' Simpsons office safe!

The jury had a right to know the truth regarding the dishonest restaging of the various death scenes inside the farmhouse that morning by senior officers, and the first team of SOCO...

[mike tesko]

More importantly, the jury had a right to know about the rifle which had manifested itself at the box room window on the red brick part of the farmhouse, a matter of minutes before the six man raid team commenced it's approach to force an entry to bring the ongoing seige to a conclusion..

How had 'that' rifle at the box room window, managed to be found in the possession of Sheila Caffell's body on the bedroom floor by 10.00am, if Jeremy Bamber was the killer, and he had not only used that rifle to shoot and kill his sister, but how was it at all possible for him to have staged his sister's death scene, there on the parents bedroom floor in possession of 'that' rifle?

[mike tesko]

Yes it would be good to know which room he meant, very very good.

Whether it is either one of the two box rooms, or Sheilla's room.
I've managed to just about hone it down to these three possible rooms!

Would also be interesting to know which room the 12 jury members thought it was, but I don't think that will ever be possible.

Nigel, ponder the following...

Bews states that the window he is referring to, that there was no light coming out from it!

[mike tesko]

Nigel, ponder the following...

Bews states that the window he is referring to, that there was no light coming out from it!

Remember that Jeremy says that the person seen at his parents window was silhouetted by virtue of the fact that either, the landing light was on, and or light filtered into the parents bedroom via the connecting door from the box room ( but the cops only had) the bathroom (red curtains), and the twins room (green curtains) with lights switched on! No mention of the light being switched on in the box room between the twins room and the parents bedroom! Seems to me that the bedroom the cops are referring to (top right) with no light coming from within that first floor room is Sheila Caffell's bedroom, her bedroom door shut tightly closed! Also note, that Bews mentioned the light switched on above the front door (middle window) belonging to upper landing which was the source of the parents bedroom being backlit!

[Nigel]

Remember that Jeremy says that the person seen at his parents window was silhouetted by virtue of the fact that either, the landing light was on, and or light filtered into the parents bedroom via the connecting door from the box room ( but the cops only had) the bathroom (red curtains), and the twins room (green curtains) with lights switched on! No mention of the light being switched on in the box room between the twins room and the parents bedroom! Seems to me that the bedroom the cops are referring to (top right) with no light coming from within that first floor room is Sheila Caffell's bedroom, her bedroom door shut tightly closed! Also note, that Bews mentioned the light switched on above the front door (middle window) belonging to upper landing which was the source of the parents bedroom being backlit!

I think you are right.

I have rewatched the video numerous times, but this time in 'slow mo' and Sgt. Bews does appear to motion anti clockwise.

This puts the focus on Sheilla's bedroom.

I wonder why she thought it necessary to close her bedroom door?

It was closed, yes?

Maybe she closed the door on the 'Good Sheila' I have a hunch she saw the four members of her family as salamander type evil reptiles, during her visual hallucination, acute psychotic episode.
This would explain the ferocity of the attack.
Beyond imagination but just my hunch.

[mike tesko]

I think you are right.

I have rewatched the video numerous times, but this time in 'slow mo' and Sgt. Bews does appear to motion anti clockwise.

This puts the focus on Sheilla's bedroom.

I wonder why she thought it necessary to close her bedroom door?

It was closed, yes?

Nigel, yeah it was, but the upper landing light was switched on, as confirmed by reference to the light being switched on above the front door (middle window)! Jeremy stated that his parents bedroom appeared to be backlit at the time of the sighting of the person which presented that person to Jeremy's eyes as a silhouetted figure! It seems that the parents door to the upper landing must have been ajar, and light filtered through into his parents bedroom! This makes absolute sense to me, because in these circumstances, any person close to the parents bedroom window would appear to anyone outside as a silhouetted figure! This did not apply to Sheila's bedroom because her door was shut and therefore there was not light filtering through her bedroom door because it was closed, and in keeping with this Bews said there was no light emitting from that window!

Top right, therefore, has to be a reference to Sheila Caffell's bedroom window, not the parents bedroom window which at that time, in those circumstances was top left!

[Nigel]

So there is more chance of 'Trick of The Light' (I believe there was movement) due to the Moon's location on that part of the house (Front).

[mike tesko]

So there is more chance of 'Trick of The Light' (I believe there was movement) due to the Moon's location on that part of the house (Front).

Well, look at this image, you can see that branches, twigs and leafs cast shadows against that part of the farmhouse where Sheila Caffell's bedroom window is located top right on the first floor! Obviously, in this image the shadows are being cast with the sun as the source of light in the day time sky! But, at night with the moon in that part of the sky it might cast similar shadows against the glass of Sheila Caffell's bedroom window! Now, Sheila's bedroom window was never an issue when Bews, Myall and Jeremy did their recce' of the outer perimeter of the farmhouse! The focal point was the parents bedroom window (top left) and the presence of that person there in the parents bedroom!

Seems somewhat obvious to me that the court particularly the jury never got to consider the implications of this sighting at the parents bedroom window, partly in chief because Rivlin and then Bews confused the real issue!

[Nigel]

Well, look at this image, you can see that branches, twigs and leafs cast shadows against that part of the farmhouse where Sheila Caffell's bedroom window is located top right on the first floor! Obviously, in this image the shadows are being cast with the sun as the source of light in the day time sky! But, at night with the moon in that part of the sky it might cast similar shadows against the glass of Sheila Caffell's bedroom window! Now, Sheila's bedroom window was never an issue when Bews, Myall and Jeremy did their recce' of the outer perimeter of the farmhouse! The focal point was the parents bedroom window (top left) and the presence of that person there in the parents bedroom!

Seems somewhat obvious to me that the court particularly the jury never got to consider the implications of this sighting at the parents bedroom window, partly in chief because Rivlin and then Bews confused the real issue!

Hi Mike
where is there any mention of a sighting in 'Parents bedroom"?

It was far right room 'Sheilla's bedroom" or were there two sightings, it would make sense if there were, more the better......