ESSEX BOYS MURDERS

[David1819]

if i was on jury i dont think on the evdence presnted i would of found them guilty.

where did they cliam to be that night.

In a pub up the road from the crime scene. They only said this once the cell phone data was disclosed to their defence.

[sami]

In a pub up the road from the crime scene. They only said this once the cell phone data was disclosed to their defence.

thanks david, i had forgotten that fact

[buddy]

is he the one who was convicted of supplying coke from a west london cab office.i think its him.thats interesting.i think many people are split,leach tucker's mate thinks the police have got right people

I don't know much about him Sami. He used to visit my son with a friend. My son couldn't stand him.
 he blames Leah's dad who was a copper with connections, but I doubt that.
I do believe that Steele was not involved though.

[sami]

I don't know much about him Sami. He used to visit my son with a friend. My son couldn't stand him.
 he blames Leah's dad who was a copper with connections, but I doubt that.
I do believe that Steele was not involved though.

yes buddy i sure its him,being tates brother the news of his arrest was splashed all over the uk.the blundell brother ,top tier villains also believe them to be innocent

[buddy]

yes buddy i sure its him,being tates brother the news of his arrest was splashed all over the uk.the blundell brother ,top tier villains also believe them to be innocent

It's a big leap from drug smuggler to killer Sami.

[sami]

It's a big leap from drug smuggler to killer Sami.

yes i agree,buddy.its like that episode of minder where arthur is accused in the disappearence and murder of his wife,the constable says arthur he's not capable of murder and the sergeant replys is that what they taught you at hendon ,some men are capable of murder and others are not

[David1819]

It's a big leap from drug smuggler to killer Sami.

No it is not. Specially when in involves shooting other drug smugglers.

[David1819]

i heard somthing about keneth noye being behind it.

but thats was just after noye had been convicted in the press were blaming him for more or less everything gangster related.

They are just rumors and gossip. The only suspects that have evidence against them are the ones convicted.

[David1819]

The only thing I'm not sure about is why they protest innocence. They killed people who nobody liked and many people think they done society a favour getting rid of them.

I can think of several possible reasons.

A) They cannot admit to anything without implicating one another. So nether wants to grass on the other.

B) They are career criminals having committed triple murder and have zero parole prospects.

Probably a combination of both.

[David1819]

DC BROWN:
Right okay well if that is it you've got the notice, I don't intend to, I don't intend to say anymore about the possession with intent to supply at the moment. The time by my watch is now 2335 hrs an you're now going to be arrested for being involved in the murder of Pat TATE, Craig ROLFE and Tony TUCKER. You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in Court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Do you wish to make any comment to the fact that you've now been arrested for that murder or a series of murders

Darren NICHOLLS:
No comment

[Lucy522]

DC BROWN:
Right okay well if that is it you've got the notice, I don't intend to, I don't intend to say anymore about the possession with intent to supply at the moment. The time by my watch is now 2335 hrs an you're now going to be arrested for being involved in the murder of Pat TATE, Craig ROLFE and Tony TUCKER. You do not have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in Court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence. Do you wish to make any comment to the fact that you've now been arrested for that murder or a series of murders

Darren NICHOLLS:
No comment

See this reads to me,
We won't mention your involvement in drug dealing IF  you assist us with the murders,
Nicholls saw the opportunity to save his own arse and he took it

[sami]

The only thing I'm not sure about is why they protest innocence. They killed people who nobody liked and many people think they done society a favour getting rid of them.

I can think of several possible reasons.

A) They cannot admit to anything without implicating one another. So nether wants to grass on the other.

B) They are career criminals having committed triple murder and have zero parole prospects.

Probably a combination of both.

yes david one could also add personal safety .tate,tucker,n rolf were hated by many but they still have family and friends that might want a few words with the pair.tates son must be a grown man.

[David1819]

See this reads to me,
We won't mention your involvement in drug dealing IF  you assist us with the murders,
Nicholls saw the opportunity to save his own arse and he took it

To me. If he was not involved in the murders, his reaction to being charged with the murders would be denying the charge. not "no comment" 

[Steve_uk]

The only thing I'm not sure about is why they protest innocence. They killed people who nobody liked and many people think they done society a favour getting rid of them.

I can think of several possible reasons.

A) They cannot admit to anything without implicating one another. So nether wants to grass on the other.

B) They are career criminals having committed triple murder and have zero parole prospects.

Probably a combination of both.

What I don't understand is how hardened men were unsuspectingly lured to this dead end and met their deaths like lambs to the slaughter.

[sami]

What I don't understand is how hardened men were unsuspectingly lured to this dead end and met their deaths like lambs to the slaughter.

good point steve,they fully trusted steele and police later found tates revolver in the attic .people say he never went anywhere without it.yet he never had it when found dead.ive read barry dorman's statement.he's an ex copper and close friend of tates.he says they all made a trip to amsterdam where steele was waiting and gave them their money back ,tate than gave £2000 and all were laughing and joking,friends again,this was one week before the murders.imo its clear that steel although pretending to make up had decided their fate .he never forgot or forgave them for the threats.in his mind if they can do it once they can do it again.and he told them about a fake coke deal he was flying in.fully aware their greed would make his plan successful