colin norris

[gringo]

    Closing submissions in the Colin Norris/Campbell appeal are Wed 4th and Thurs 5th. One way or the other we will know imminently. An overturning of the conviction will have repercussions throughout the Criminal Justice system, in my opinion. There have been calls for reform and much discussion around the way that complex medical/scientific evidence is presented in trials. From the earlier linked booklet again below;

 Lessons
Colin Norris’ case raises important questions.
• Conclusion-driven police investigations carry
an inherent risk that a miscarriage of justice
will occur. Investigators are statutorily
required to ‘pursue all reasonable lines of inquiry,
whether these point towards or away from the
suspect’29. Throughout the five years Operation
Bevil was in existence, senior police repeatedly
ignored this duty leading to the wrongful
conviction of an innocent man,
• The adversarial English criminal trial provides
an ineffective forum for testing complex
medico-scientific evidence. In 2013, the Law
Commission proposed pre-trial hearings be
established to assess the reliability of expert
evidence. Had such a system been in place in
2008, the paucity of research into non-diabetic
hypoglycaemia would have been apparent.
The proposal was supported on all sides of the
criminal justice system including prosecution
and defence lawyers. The then Secretary of
State for Justice (Christopher Grayling)
peremptorily dismissed the proposal on the
spurious ground that it would cost too much.

[Steve_uk]

    There is no ambiguity, Steve. The so called "documentary" that you link is "true crime drama" bullshit. You rely on information from the any source that confirms your own knee-jerk bigotry. In the booklet linked earlier in the thread the type of misinformation spread by "true crime" drama and the those who watch them was specifically referenced;

ITV Real Crime
"In 2008, ITV broadcast a 45 minute film Angel of Death
about Colin. The programme has been repeated on
Freeview channels and is easily available on internet
sites.
Angel of Death comprised a welter of inaccurate,
unsubstantiated claims about Colin and the facts of
his case concentrating solely on WYP’s distorted
version of events. These included the fiction that early
police enquiries on the wards led them to arrest
Colin. No evidence exists to support this assertion.
The film omitted mention of the defence case. Instead,
a psychiatrist who had never met Colin opined at
length how he could tell he was guilty purely from is
‘body language’ in filmed police interviews. Likewise,
Det. Ch. Supt Chris Gregg never met Colin but was
able to expound extensively about his supposed
innermost thoughts.
The ‘facts’ broadcast in this film are often deployed to
disparage Colin on social media. The dissemination
of misinformation about Colin’s case is particularly
prevalent among followers of the current fashion for
so-called ‘true crime’ stories."

     Ethel Hall's death was 3 weeks after the so called 5.15 prediction. There is no ambivalence. True Crime you-tube videos are not sufficient grounding for opining and debating on possible MOJ's, Steve. You have demonstrated this in spades.

There's more to the case than Ethel Hall. Let's wait and see.