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Re: was there a redail feture on the phone.
« Reply #90 on: November 11, 2017, 06:55:PM »
well if a policeman dident use the phone to call the station then who did.


How do you know anybody did?

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« Reply #91 on: November 11, 2017, 06:56:PM »

How do you know anybody did?

maggie told me.

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Re: was there a redail feture on the phone.
« Reply #93 on: November 11, 2017, 07:07:PM »
i thought that as well.
This is part of DCI Ainsley's report to the Director of Public Prosecutions on 23 September 1985:

“In the kitchen, situated on top of a work surface beneath the hatchway leading to the bottle room, was a normal dial telephone, colour white. This was in working order. The handset was found removed from the cradle.  In the company office on the first floor was a blue coloured telephone with a digital display and memory. There is no evidence to suggest this telephone was used on the night in question but it was used by an officer of the Essex Police Tactical Firearms Group after the farmhouse was entered.[9]This telephone will retrieve on the display only the last number dialled which is automatically erased by the next use. Found in the office was a third telephone on a shelf. It is believed that this telephone was from the main bedroom, having been unplugged and the cord wrapped around the set. This cannot be explained but the set and bedroom plug have been checked by telecommunications employees and both are in working order.[10]” 

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« Reply #94 on: November 11, 2017, 07:12:PM »
This is part of DCI Ainsley's report to the Director of Public Prosecutions on 23 September 1985:

“In the kitchen, situated on top of a work surface beneath the hatchway leading to the bottle room, was a normal dial telephone, colour white. This was in working order. The handset was found removed from the cradle.  In the company office on the first floor was a blue coloured telephone with a digital display and memory. There is no evidence to suggest this telephone was used on the night in question but it was used by an officer of the Essex Police Tactical Firearms Group after the farmhouse was entered.[9]This telephone will retrieve on the display only the last number dialled which is automatically erased by the next use. Found in the office was a third telephone on a shelf. It is believed that this telephone was from the main bedroom, having been unplugged and the cord wrapped around the set. This cannot be explained but the set and bedroom plug have been checked by telecommunications employees and both are in working order.[10]”

doesnt say who used it though.

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« Reply #95 on: November 11, 2017, 07:34:PM »
This is part of DCI Ainsley's report to the Director of Public Prosecutions on 23 September 1985:

“In the kitchen, situated on top of a work surface beneath the hatchway leading to the bottle room, was a normal dial telephone, colour white. This was in working order. The handset was found removed from the cradle.  In the company office on the first floor was a blue coloured telephone with a digital display and memory. There is no evidence to suggest this telephone was used on the night in question but it was used by an officer of the Essex Police Tactical Firearms Group after the farmhouse was entered.[9]This telephone will retrieve on the display only the last number dialled which is automatically erased by the next use. Found in the office was a third telephone on a shelf. It is believed that this telephone was from the main bedroom, having been unplugged and the cord wrapped around the set. This cannot be explained but the set and bedroom plug have been checked by telecommunications employees and both are in working order.[10]”

That's from the Campaign Team.

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/telephones

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« Reply #96 on: November 11, 2017, 07:59:PM »
That's from the Campaign Team.

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/telephones


well is as good as anything unless your claiming they made it up.
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Re: was there a redail feture on the phone.
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« Reply #98 on: November 11, 2017, 11:20:PM »
so if a sop dident phone the station who did.

nevile.
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Re: was there a redail feture on the phone.
« Reply #99 on: November 11, 2017, 11:39:PM »
so if a sop dident phone the station who did.

nevile.

There is no evidence that ANYONE called the station!
Few people have the imagination for reality

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« Reply #100 on: November 11, 2017, 11:41:PM »
There is no evidence that ANYONE called the station!

acording to scott lomax there is.

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Re: was there a redail feture on the phone.
« Reply #101 on: November 11, 2017, 11:44:PM »
acording to scott lomax there is.

Did Scott Lomax reference such evidence - NO! HE DID NOT!
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« Reply #102 on: November 11, 2017, 11:50:PM »
One of the officers admitted to using the phone.

ill qaute you here.

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Re: was there a redail feture on the phone.
« Reply #103 on: November 12, 2017, 12:29:AM »
This is part of DCI Ainsley's report to the Director of Public Prosecutions on 23 September 1985:

“In the kitchen, situated on top of a work surface beneath the hatchway leading to the bottle room, was a normal dial telephone, colour white. This was in working order. The handset was found removed from the cradle.  In the company office on the first floor was a blue coloured telephone with a digital display and memory. There is no evidence to suggest this telephone was used on the night in question but it was used by an officer of the Essex Police Tactical Firearms Group after the farmhouse was entered.[9]This telephone will retrieve on the display only the last number dialled which is automatically erased by the next use. Found in the office was a third telephone on a shelf. It is believed that this telephone was from the main bedroom, having been unplugged and the cord wrapped around the set. This cannot be explained but the set and bedroom plug have been checked by telecommunications employees and both are in working order.[10]”

This report was brought up at appeal. It more or less came down to Anisley's report vs Police denying using the phone.

So either Ainsley is making stuff up or the firearms team is lying. take your pick  :-\
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« Reply #104 on: November 12, 2017, 12:31:AM »
i cant see any reason he would lie in his report.