Sherlock has solved the case at last ...

[Stephanie]

Cain murdered Abel Jane ...

All Christians commit sin - even murder ...

A Christian having a psychotic breakdown is as likely to murder as anyone else having a psychotic breakdown ...

I would agree that a Christian not having a psychotic breakdown is less likely to consider or commit murder than a non believer ....

Any yet more bias

[sherlock]

http://www.bakersfield.com/news/what-s-the-deal-with-psalms-and-in-the-sabrina/article_dd261378-9ccc-11e7-9f6b-33eb8e407a96.html

10 out of 10 David ...

Why are other forum members having trouble accepting what Psalm 51 is about ?

It could not be clearer especially if they use a more modern translation ...

[Jane]

The link I sent you was from the New English Testament ...

"The NET Bible (New English Translation) is a completely new translation of the Bible with 60,932 translators’ notes! It was completed by more than 25 scholars "

It is used and believed by millions of Christians ...

Line 14 of Psalm 51 could not be any clearer it says "MURDER" ...

You can believe what you want Jane ...

But millions of Christians believe the correct translation of line 14 Psalm 51 is "MURDER" ...

That is a fact Jane ...

And millions don't, and millions have never heard that psalm because they've never A) learned all the psalms B) have never thought of murder C) would never have considered that the bible might hold a 'get out of jail free" card for them IF they'd considered it...................however, IF we look at why they MAY, it would take a very controlled and clear mind to A) consider murdering five people B) trawl through the bible to see if there was any forgiveness offered after having done such. NOT the action of a psychotic, wouldn't you agree.

[Stephanie]

10 out of 10 David ...

Why are other forum members having trouble accepting what Psalm 51 is about ?

It could not be clearer especially if they use a more modern translation ...

a prime example of confirmation bias

By "others" you clearly mean those of us who believe Bamber to be guilty

[Stephanie]

10 out of 10 David ...

Why are other forum members having trouble accepting what Psalm 51 is about ?

It could not be clearer especially if they use a more modern translation ...

Caroline's post was clear

Have you surveyed people who believe in Psalm 51? Especially those with murder in mind?

http://www.bakersfield.com/news/what-s-the-deal-with-psalms-and-in-the-sabrina/article_dd261378-9ccc-11e7-9f6b-33eb8e407a96.html

But David replied with one link - showing his confirmation bias

What is clear is you are looking for people to agree with you and your biased opinion

[Stephanie]

The link I sent you was from the New English Testament ...

"The NET Bible (New English Translation) is a completely new translation of the Bible with 60,932 translators’ notes! It was completed by more than 25 scholars "

It is used and believed by millions of Christians ...

Line 14 of Psalm 51 could not be any clearer it says "MURDER" ...

You can believe what you want Jane ...

But millions of Christians believe the correct translation of line 14 Psalm 51 is "MURDER" ...

That is a fact Jane ...

If you are referring to it being "a fact" in relation to SC then you would need to provide her (Shiela"s) evidence to back that up.

You can't therefore is is merely your opinion NOT a fact Sherlock

[lookout]

Biased towards innocence.
Biased towards guilt.

What IS the problem exactly ??

[Stephanie]

Biased towards innocence.
Biased towards guilt.

What IS the problem exactly ??

Instead of ignoring my posts in response to your own, maybe if you were to read them and consider them in relation to your arguments and reply to them, you may then understand what is meant by bias.

Alternatively you could google confirmation bias

What do you think the problem is?

[Stephanie]

What IS the problem exactly ??

Your arguments aren't objective

[sherlock]

And millions don't, and millions have never heard that psalm because they've never A) learned all the psalms B) have never thought of murder C) would never have considered that the bible might hold a 'get out of jail free" card for them IF they'd considered it...................however, IF we look at why they MAY, it would take a very controlled and clear mind to A) consider murdering five people B) trawl through the bible to see if there was any forgiveness offered after having done such. NOT the action of a psychotic, wouldn't you agree.

Why then do you think the bloodstains are on Psalm 51 then ?

Just a huge massive coincidence ?

Not even remotely possible Jane ..

The bloodstains were on Psalm 51 for a very good reason ...

[Caroline]

10 out of 10 David ...

Why are other forum members having trouble accepting what Psalm 51 is about ?

It could not be clearer especially if they use a more modern translation ...

It's not a case of accepting anything - it's irrelevant

[sherlock]

Caroline's post was clear

But David replied with one link - showing his confirmation bias

What is clear is you are looking for people to agree with you and your biased opinion

What is clear is Psalm 51 is about seeking forgiveness after murder ...

The bloodstains were on Psalm 51 ...

I can see the relevance - David can and Steve can ...

I am puzzled why some of you others are struggling with seeing it ?

It really is not that hard to grasp ....

Davids link explains how a murderer gets comfort from Psalm 51 ...

Where is the bias in that ?

[Jane]

Why then do you think the bloodstains are on Psalm 51 then ?

Just a huge massive coincidence ?

Not even remotely possible Jane ..

The bloodstains were on Psalm 51 for a very good reason ...

Clearly not........................with your mindset. The only way I can see that it's feasible is if Sheila had preplanned the whole thing. I wonder just how many theologians she had to approach to find out if there was any passage in the bible which might suggest that God forgives murder. I wonder if she could have found it on the spur of the moment if she'd made a sudden decision? Oh! and what about the psychosis? SURELY, a clear and lucid mother isn't going to murder her parents AND her beloved children, then shoot herself for the fun of it? You appear to have taken something in isolation and run with it. You haven't looked a the whole story, and from what I can ascertain, you're not actually bothered about it as long as you think your 'bit' fits.

[lookout]

Instead of ignoring my posts in response to your own, maybe if you were to read them and consider them in relation to your arguments and reply to them, you may then understand what is meant by bias.

Alternatively you could google confirmation bias

What do you think the problem is?

It's you who's telling supporters that they're bias,not me. As usual,it's your over-use of the word,like projection and psychopath.

[Jane]

What is clear is Psalm 51 is about seeking forgiveness after murder ...

The bloodstains were on Psalm 51 ...

I can see the relevance - David can and Steve can ...

I am puzzled why some of you others are struggling with seeing it ?

It really is not that hard to grasp ....

Davids link explains how a murderer gets comfort from Psalm 51 ...

Where is the bias in that ?

It's not so much that I'm "struggling with seeing it" -it IS an explanation of the text, though whether it's generally accepted or relevant is up for grabs- it's more that I can't build an acceptable and believable story round it, and there HAS to be one. it didn't just happen out of the blue.