Sherlock has solved the case at last ...

[sherlock]

After a very long time considering this case I have now worked out exactly what happened ...

I have considered every possibility with a very open mind indeed ....

There is only one scenario that stands up to scrutiny ....

Here it is .....


Sheila was reading Psalm 51 because she had just murdered her family ....

She wanted to be forgiven by God for the murders ...

That is why she had washed herself ....

It was Sheila that moved the gun that WPC Jeaves saw in the window ....

It was Sheila that was seen moving in the other window ...

Sheila killed herself after the Police were outside the farm - that is why her blood was still wet ...

David Boutflour (and possibly others) planted the silencer ....

The relatives put Julie up to the false confession - which is why she wrongly repeats things AE told her ...

DC Jones was more than happy to coach Julie - he was up for noble cause corruption ....

The relatives did it because they thought Jeremy was guilty and to avoid impending financial ruin ...

This is why Robert Boutflour lied to the jury about the inheritance ....

I have no doubt all the relatives and Sheila and DC Jones were convinced that Jeremy did it ....

But he did not - he is 100% innocent of any involvement in this crime .....


Now I have satisfied myself without any doubt what happened it is time for stage 2 ....

Stage 2 is I am going to prove to the world exactly what happened ....

Jeremy Bamber needs to be released right now .....

[Kaldin]

David Boutflour (and possibly others) planted the silencer ....

Could you explain that a bit more? Are you suggesting that they found the silencer in the cupboard, and came up with a way to implicate Jeremy by making the police believe the silencer had been used? That would actually involve quite a lot of duplicity and a lot of imagination. I doubt anyone would have thought of it, especially the part about putting paint on it.

[Adam]

Sherlock - 2nd June 2017.


Excellent post Adam ...

Like Mike said it is arguably possible that she could have cleaned herself up after 4 murders ...

But it is obvious she could not have cleaned herself up after shooting herself ...

Is there any explanation anyone why her hands and night dress had no traces ?

I would love to hear anybodies theories on how this is possible ...

But for me it looks like it was either Jeremy and / or a hitman or one or more of the relatives ...

Even though Sheila discussed killing her children with her doctor the lack of hand and clothing traces from the last 2 shots cannot be explained by her cleaning herself up - so i agree Adam - it does not look at all likely (or even possible) that Sheila shot herself ...

But why didn't this lack of hand or clothing marks ring alarm bells with Essex Police ?
Or did it ? were they working on this when Julie and the silencer turned up ?
Any ideas on this Adam or anybody else ?

Once again - excellent post Adam ...

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8414.msg401682.html#msg401682

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I wish Sherlock would make up his mind. One minute Nevill rang the police, the next minute he didn't. One minute Bamber is guilty. The next he isn't.

One minute it's AE, AP, a hit man, or RB. The next it isn't.

Hopefully now he's worked out Bamber is the unluckiest man ever he won't disappear from the forum for the next 3 months.

[sherlock]

Could you explain that a bit more? Are you suggesting that they found the silencer in the cupboard, and came up with a way to implicate Jeremy by making the police believe the silencer had been used? That would actually involve quite a lot of duplicity and a lot of imagination. I doubt anyone would have thought of it, especially the part about putting paint on it.

Imagine this :

The relatives think Jeremy did it ...

They are in the farmhouse frantically looking for evidence that he did ...

They find the unmarked silencer (who knows where they found it)

They realise Sheila could not have shot herself with it on the rifle ....

Remember this is before DNA was in use ....

They put a little bit of blood in it / on it ....

They scratched the fireplace with it - leaving red paint on the silencer ...

They placed a grey hair similar to Neville Bambers on it ....

They gave it to Police ....

It now looks like it was used in the murders ...

It was impossible for Sheila to have shot herself with it on ...

It therefore looked like it was Jeremy that did it ....

Even many firm believers in Jeremy's guilt believe the silencer was set up by the relatives ...

Robert Boutflour was devious enough for this ...

[sherlock]

Sherlock - 2nd June 2017.


Excellent post Adam ...

Like Mike said it is arguably possible that she could have cleaned herself up after 4 murders ...

But it is obvious she could not have cleaned herself up after shooting herself ...

Is there any explanation anyone why her hands and night dress had no traces ?

I would love to hear anybodies theories on how this is possible ...

But for me it looks like it was either Jeremy and / or a hitman or one or more of the relatives ...

Even though Sheila discussed killing her children with her doctor the lack of hand and clothing traces from the last 2 shots cannot be explained by her cleaning herself up - so i agree Adam - it does not look at all likely (or even possible) that Sheila shot herself ...

But why didn't this lack of hand or clothing marks ring alarm bells with Essex Police ?
Or did it ? were they working on this when Julie and the silencer turned up ?
Any ideas on this Adam or anybody else ?

Once again - excellent post Adam ...

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8414.msg401682.html#msg401682

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I wish Sherlock would make up his mind. One minute Nevill rang the police, the next minute he didn't. One minute Bamber is guilty. The next he isn't.

One minute it's AE, AP, a hit man, or RB. The next it isn't.

Hopefully now he's worked out Bamber is the unluckiest man ever he won't disappear from the forum for the next 3 months.

I have considered this case from every possible angle ...

In the post you refer to I posed 4 unanswered questions ....

Now I am sure the last 2 shots left very little if any residue on Sheila ....


Sheila had told her Pyschiatrist she wanted to kill her "Devil" children ...

And that is exactly what she did in a psychotic religious breakdown ...

You will be glad Adam that I have finally made my mind up ...

I will not be disappearing from the forum anytime soon ....

You have ALL helped me to work this case out ...

I will be staying on the forum so you can all help me prove what happened to the Appeal Court ....

[Kaldin]

Imagine this :

The relatives think Jeremy did it ...

They are in the farmhouse frantically looking for evidence that he did ...

They find the unmarked silencer (who knows where they found it)

They realise Sheila could not have shot herself with it on the rifle ....

Remember this is before DNA was in use ....

They put a little bit of blood in it / on it ....

They scratched the fireplace with it - leaving red paint on the silencer ...

They placed a grey hair similar to Neville Bambers on it ....

They gave it to Police ....

It now looks like it was used in the murders ...

It was impossible for Sheila to have shot herself with it on ...

It therefore looked like it was Jeremy that did it ....

Even many firm believers in Jeremy's guilt believe the silencer was set up by the relatives ...

Robert Boutflour was devious enough for this ...

This is the sticking point. How did they know Sheila could not have shot herself with it on? They would have known that she didn't of course, but they couldn't have known that she couldn't have.

How did they get the blood into the silencer?

[Kaldin]

I have considered this case from every possible angle ...

In the post you refer to I posed 4 unanswered questions ....

Now I am sure the last 2 shots left very little if any residue on Sheila ....


Sheila had told her Pyschiatrist she wanted to kill her "Devil" children ...

And that is exactly what she did in a psychotic religious breakdown ...

You will be glad Adam that I have finally made my mind up ...

I will not be disappearing from the forum anytime soon ....

You have ALL helped me to work this case out ...

I will be staying on the forum so you can all help me prove what happened to the Appeal Court ....

I understand your feelings about it. Sometimes, someone will say something to convince you either way, and it seems that's happened to you. Do you know what it was in particular which convinced you?

[sherlock]

This is the sticking point. How did they know Sheila could not have shot herself with it on? They would have known that she didn't of course, but they couldn't have known that she couldn't have.

How did they get the blood into the silencer?

They were all very familiar with guns and rifles ...

The rifle with silencer is very long indeed ...

It would have been obvious to them ....

Anthony's identical rifle and silencer might well have still been at the Farm at the time ...

It might have ben looking at Anthonys rifle and silencer when they realised it was impossible ....

[Adam]

I have considered this case from every possible angle ...

In the post you refer to I posed 4 unanswered questions ....

Now I am sure the last 2 shots left very little if any residue on Sheila ....


Sheila had told her Pyschiatrist she wanted to kill her "Devil" children ...

And that is exactly what she did in a psychotic religious breakdown ...

You will be glad Adam that I have finally made my mind up ...

I will not be disappearing from the forum anytime soon ....

You have ALL helped me to work this case out ...

I will be staying on the forum so you can all help me prove what happened to the Appeal Court ....

I am pleased you believe it was an industrial frame.

Do you believe the police only created another 32 pieces of evidence that it wasn't Sheila, after the silencer results came back ?

[lookout]

This is why it had been said by the judge " that it was either Sheila or Jeremy ",which is not the right and proper verdict to reach when you have one dead and the other sentenced to full life ( on no specific evidence ) just because he was the last one standing and nobody liked the man.

The prisons would be well overstretched if full of those who were " greedy,drank champagne,wore Boss suts,womanised,and generally enjoyed the high-liife " !!

[sherlock]

I understand your feelings about it. Sometimes, someone will say something to convince you either way, and it seems that's happened to you. Do you know what it was in particular which convinced you?

1) WPC Jeaves statement - There was someone moving in the house when Jeremy was outside ...

2) David Boutflours obvious guilty conscience about the silencer in interviews he has given

3) Psalm 51 was relevant - the relevance of washing could only have been known by Sheila - no one else ...


I have considered every single possible possibility and ruled them all out one by one ...

There is only one scenario that fits ALL the evidence.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
 Sherlock Holmes

[sherlock]

I am pleased you believe it was an industrial frame.

Do you believe the police only created another 32 pieces of evidence that it wasn't Sheila, after the silencer results came back ?

I also believed that Hillsborough was an industrial frame ...

You know what Adam - it was ...

The Boutflours, Julie and DC Jones do not actually amount to an industrial frame ...

Just a small tight knit group of financially desperate and wrong people ...

There is not 1 piece of evidence it was not Sheila that is not explained by her having a wash ...

If you think there is then please list even one ...

[Kaldin]

1) WPC Jeaves statement - There was someone moving in the house when Jeremy was outside ...

2) David Boutflours obvious guilty conscience about the silencer in interviews he has given

3) Psalm 51 was relevant - the relevance of washing could only have been known by Sheila - no one else ...


I have considered every single possible possibility and ruled them all out one by one ...

There is only one scenario that fits ALL the evidence.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"
 Sherlock Holmes

Can I just point out that it's "Jeapes", not "Jeaves"? Sorry. 

I agree that Sheila could have washed her hands before killing herself. Whether she did so is unknown.

[sherlock]

This is why it had been said by the judge " that it was either Sheila or Jeremy ",which is not the right and proper verdict to reach when you have one dead and the other sentenced to full life ( on no specific evidence ) just because he was the last one standing and nobody liked the man.

The prisons would be well overstretched if full of those who were " greedy,drank champagne,wore Boss suts,womanised,and generally enjoyed the high-liife " !!

The relatives did not like Jeremy at all for the reasons you say ...

DC Jones did not like Jeremy for the reasons you say ...

Julie hated Jeremy for different reasons ...

They got together and convinced themselves that Jeremy had done it ...

It was all too easy - they all wanted to believe it ...

Confirmation bias can be a very misleading thing - they all suffered from it because they really did not like him at all ...

People tend to believe what they want to believe - it is even easier if you are going to become rich instead of poor if your hunch is right - which is the position the relatives were in ...

[Stephanie]

I also believed that Hillsborough was an industrial frame ...

You know what Adam - it was ...

The Boutflours, Julie and DC Jones do not actually amount to an industrial frame ...

Just a small tight knit group of financially desperate and wrong people ...

There is not 1 piece of evidence it was not Sheila that is not explained by her having a wash ...

If you think there is then please list even one ...

Or one financially desperate wrong ' en