Sherlock has solved the case at last ...

[David1819]

What do you think I mean?

Psychobabble! 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychobabble

[sherlock]

Maybe you should read back some of your recent posts and apply the same logic to your own theories as you suggests others do.

Surely you can see your own contradictions?

Maybe it is you who suffers from what you claim others suffer from? Maybe you watch too much TV, for example?

I can see no contradictions ...

I have looked at it from all angles to finally see the truth ...

Please feel free to point out any apparent contradiction and I will explain ...

I watch remarkably little television Stephanie - but I am highly experienced in life and people ...

[Adam]

Jeremy might have realised the significance of the bloodshed part of Psalm 51 - but only Sheila would have realised the significance of the washing part ...

Therefore it was Sheila ...

Sheila had spoken of killing her Devil children - Jeremy had not ...

Bamber had spoken about killing his family.

The bible had blood over it. Although Sheila's hands were clean.

Do you think Sheila killed 4 people in a psychotic rage. Then calmed down enough to read the bible. Then had a shower ?

Have you got evidence Sheila read the bible ?

[sherlock]

EP had a lot to answer for at that time. Just because someone appeared to have been intelligent and no " underdog " ,they immediately disliked JB. As well,JB wasn't afraid to speak out either and stand his ground,which was something else that police don't like as they're used to putting words into the mouths of those who are easily brainwashed.

Wouldn't anyone stand firm and stand up to the law if they knew themselves they were right ? Oh,I see,you wouldn't ! You'd take the psychological abuse and hope for the best ?
 Police don't like being beaten at their game. The fact that JB didn't have a solicitor,nor was offered one ? with his initial interview tells me that he'd felt sure ( naively ) that his story would have been believed and that he'd had nothing to worry about. So far as I can recollect,JB hadn't even " broken down " as many guilty persons do,unless they're macho hardened criminals,of which he wasn't in that category.

Your observations are 100% accurate - I agree with every word of your post 100%

[Stephanie]

We obviously have a lot of work to do to reach agreement Adam - so lets get started

We will need to discuss your points one by one ...

First of all you say :

"Obviously it will involve hundreds of people if Bamber was framed. Thread already created. "

My scenario only involves one or two relatives, Julie and DC Jones

So why do you say it must have involved hundreds of people for it to happen ?

Surely you can see this is self explanatory?

[Stephanie]

Your observations are 100% accurate - I agree with every word of your post 100%

Then you are CLEARLY bias! 

[lookout]

Your observations are 100% accurate - I agree with every word of your post 100%

It's only through personal experience that you know and can safely write about this,as if not,you're no wiser towards the workings of the law and end up like JB has done.

[Jane]

EP had a lot to answer for at that time. Just because someone appeared to have been intelligent and no " underdog " ,they immediately disliked JB. As well,JB wasn't afraid to speak out either and stand his ground,which was something else that police don't like as they're used to putting words into the mouths of those who are easily brainwashed.

Wouldn't anyone stand firm and stand up to the law if they knew themselves they were right ? Oh,I see,you wouldn't ! You'd take the psychological abuse and hope for the best ?
 Police don't like being beaten at their game. The fact that JB didn't have a solicitor,nor was offered one ? with his initial interview tells me that he'd felt sure ( naively ) that his story would have been believed and that he'd had nothing to worry about. So far as I can recollect,JB hadn't even " broken down " as many guilty persons do,unless they're macho hardened criminals,of which he wasn't in that category.

Whilst I see nothing resembling psychological abuse on the part of the police, I see much pxxx taking and arrogance in Jeremy's responses, along with numerous "no comments". I feel perfectly certain it wouldn't have gone unnoticed -it may have been a contributory factor in why my friend's late husband believed him guilty- and it wouldn't have gone in his favour. Naturally, I can't say what I'd have done in that position, but I'm very certain I wouldn't have acted the way Jeremy did.

[sherlock]

Then you are CLEARLY bias! 

Because I happen to agree 100% with another poster ?

Lookout is obviously experienced in how people are ...

So am I ...

That is why I can see Lookout is 100% right on this one ...

I will agree or disagree with anyone based on my personal experience knowledge and beliefs ...

Look at what Lookout has said and you might learn something about people and life ...

[Jane]

It's only through personal experience that you know and can safely write about this,as if not,you're no wiser towards the workings of the law and end up like JB has done.

So how many times have you been taken into custody and questioned?

[sherlock]

Surely you can see this is self explanatory?

No I cannot - please explain ...

Why would hundreds of people be needed for a frame that only took a very few people ?

[sherlock]

Whilst I see nothing resembling psychological abuse on the part of the police, I see much pxxx taking and arrogance in Jeremy's responses, along with numerous "no comments". I feel perfectly certain it wouldn't have gone unnoticed -it may have been a contributory factor in why my friend's late husband believed him guilty- and it wouldn't have gone in his favour. Naturally, I can't say what I'd have done in that position, but I'm very certain I wouldn't have acted the way Jeremy did.

Many people would not behave like he did ..

I would have done - if I was innocent ...

We are all different and react differently ...

I understand 100% every one of his reactions ...

[Adam]

No I cannot - please explain ...

Why would hundreds of people be needed for a frame that only took a very few people ?

You are just referring to one piece of evidence. Which may have needed several police. Unless Jones had access to -

Sheila's blood in the fridge

Equipment to correctly insert the blood into the silencer.

The kitchen crime scene photos.

Evidence on the rifle nozzle.

Evidence on who received contact shots.

[Stephanie]

No I cannot - please explain ...

Why would hundreds of people be needed for a frame that only took a very few people ?

Mike Tesko would most probably be able to explain this for you, you're best to ask him.

Or you could always refer to your own theory posted here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8685.msg415474.html#msg415474

[sherlock]

Bamber had spoken about killing his family.

The bible had blood over it. Although Sheila's hands were clean.

Do you think Sheila killed 4 people in a psychotic rage. Then calmed down enough to read the bible. Then had a shower ?

Have you got evidence Sheila read the bible ?

According to a relative who set him up with the silencer and who we know lied to the Jury about the inheritance money ...

The Bible fell on the blood on the floor ...

Yes I do - this is 100% consistent with psychotic breakdown ...

Sheila was a self confessed white witch and spoke with her psychiatrist in a way that showed a huge interest in religion ...