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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #195 on: September 23, 2017, 01:24:PM »
Oh well that was OK then - he only got someone else to do it for him.

yes lol that would make all the difference wouldent it.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #196 on: September 23, 2017, 01:26:PM »
She didn't need to work it out, according to her own statement. She said that Jeremy told her that he got McDonald to do it. She said he told her that on the evening of 7th August.

Alright you believe you would have told the police on the 7th August while simultaneously having nothing to do with Bamber. And believe everyone would act in the same way you would.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #197 on: September 23, 2017, 01:28:PM »
She claimed that she did know that he was responsible though - all the time she was carrying on as if it was nothing to do with him.

She suspected perhaps, but she was also fed information to the contrary. After confronting JB he eventually comes out with MM being responsible.

Then she confided in friends and went to the police.

Your description of carrying on as if nothing happened is a bit of a leap. I suspect none of it was 'usual', with the deaths of five people never too far from anyone's mind.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #198 on: September 23, 2017, 01:31:PM »
She suspected perhaps, but she was also fed information to the contrary. After confronting JB he eventually comes out with MM being responsible.

Then she confided in friends and went to the police.

Your description of carrying on as if nothing happened is a bit of a leap. I suspect none of it was 'usual', with the deaths of five people never too far from anyone's mind.

did the friends go to the police.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #199 on: September 23, 2017, 01:32:PM »
Oh well that was OK then - he only got someone else to do it for him.

I fear you are missing the point.

If she wasn't sure for 20 days, and then she eventually confronts JB, who tells her it was MM. Then perhaps this is the catalyst for her to confide in friends and then go to the police.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #200 on: September 23, 2017, 01:34:PM »
Alright you believe you would have told the police on the 7th August while simultaneously having nothing to do with Bamber. And believe everyone would act in the same way you would.

No, I didn't say that. However, all that going out for meals, going away for weekends, staying at his house, inviting him back to her house - now that's pushing it. I just find her behaviour very bizarre.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #201 on: September 23, 2017, 01:36:PM »
She suspected perhaps, but she was also fed information to the contrary. After confronting JB he eventually comes out with MM being responsible.

Then she confided in friends and went to the police.

Your description of carrying on as if nothing happened is a bit of a leap. I suspect none of it was 'usual', with the deaths of five people never too far from anyone's mind.

Thanks for that piece of logic and sanity, H. I've said, time and again, that I can't begin to imagine the conflicting thoughts and feelings Julie must have experienced, but I DO know that there would have been a point at which she realized that nothing in her life would ever go back to what it had been before the murders.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2017, 01:37:PM »
I find comforting somone whaen you full well there tears are fake the most bizarre.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #203 on: September 23, 2017, 01:37:PM »
Adam, do you think that she would have continued to cover it up if Jeremy hadn't dumped her or asked another girl out? How long do you think she would have kept that up? Remember they had the evidence of the silencer, so she would have had every opportunity to come clean then.

From her testimony it seems to me that she would never have accused him if they hadn't broken up, or do you think that she was on the verge of going to the police anyway?

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2017, 01:40:PM »
She suspected perhaps, but she was also fed information to the contrary. After confronting JB he eventually comes out with MM being responsible.

Then she confided in friends and went to the police.

Your description of carrying on as if nothing happened is a bit of a leap. I suspect none of it was 'usual', with the deaths of five people never too far from anyone's mind.

Of course she would have suspected something if Jeremy had been going on about killing his family prior to the murders. She said that Jeremy had told her it was McDonald, and that he knew all about it and put him up to it. She didn't need to "suspect" anything after that.

She did carry on as normal - if going out for meals and staying with Jeremy was normal for her.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #205 on: September 23, 2017, 01:40:PM »
No, I didn't say that. However, all that going out for meals, going away for weekends, staying at his house, inviting him back to her house - now that's pushing it. I just find her behaviour very bizarre.

All upon Bamber's invites & requests.

I'm surprised it only took her 20 days to betray
Bamber.

He had her for 20 days & the opportunity to convince her with bravado & tell he was watertight & no one would believe her if she told anyone.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2017, 01:40:PM »
I fear you are missing the point.

If she wasn't sure for 20 days, and then she eventually confronts JB, who tells her it was MM. Then perhaps this is the catalyst for her to confide in friends and then go to the police.

According to her statement, Jeremy told her it was McDonald on 7th August, not 20 days later.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #207 on: September 23, 2017, 01:41:PM »
All upon Bamber's invites & requests.

I'm surprised it only took her 20 days to betray Bamber. He had the opportunity to convince her with bravado & tell he was watertight & no one would believe her.

She was free to turn down requests. Anway, it was her who begged him not to leave her. I've never understood the logic in not saying anything on the grounds that I wouldn't be believed.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #208 on: September 23, 2017, 01:44:PM »
She was free to turn down requests. Anway, it was her who begged him not to leave her. I've never understood the logic in not saying anything on the grounds that I wouldn't be believed.

She did. But Bamber persuaded her.

Yes you've said you would have instantly broken away from Bamber & told the police. Rather than in 20 days.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #209 on: September 23, 2017, 01:45:PM »
She did. But Bamber persuaded her.

Yes you've said you would have instantly broken away from Bamber & told the police. Rather than in 20 days.

No, I didn't say that. I said it would be normal to run the other way, which I still think, and I said that I would make excuses not to be anywhere near him.