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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #210 on: September 23, 2017, 01:46:PM »
She did. But Bamber persuaded her.

Yes you've said you would have instantly broken away from Bamber & told the police. Rather than in 20 days.

well most people would.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #211 on: September 23, 2017, 01:47:PM »
Adam, do you think that she would have continued to cover it up if Jeremy hadn't dumped her or asked another girl out? How long do you think she would have kept that up? Remember they had the evidence of the silencer, so she would have had every opportunity to come clean then.

From her testimony it seems to me that she would never have accused him if they hadn't broken up, or do you think that she was on the verge of going to the police anyway?

I know you asked the question of Adam, but I don't believe the answer is a simple one. In court, her words were "I was very much in love with him and I'd hoped to marry him." I truly think that there may have been a point at which she hoped the situation could be resolved -I don't know how, I'm not in her head- and HAD they married, I think she'd have kept her mouth shut, at least until she found out about his first affair!!! I think there was probably an element of hoping to wake up to find none of it had happened, and probably MORE than a trace of total disbelief that the man she was in love with could have carried out such a vile act.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #212 on: September 23, 2017, 01:48:PM »
No, I didn't say that. I said it would be normal to run the other way, which I still think, and I said that I would make excuses not to be anywhere near him.

Ok. That's you're vision of what you would have done in her situation & at her age. And you believe someone you have never met before would have done the same.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #213 on: September 23, 2017, 01:52:PM »
Thanks for that piece of logic and sanity, H. I've said, time and again, that I can't begin to imagine the conflicting thoughts and feelings Julie must have experienced, but I DO know that there would have been a point at which she realized that nothing in her life would ever go back to what it had been before the murders.

I just think some of the assertions made are a little too monochrome.
We don't know what Julie thought, felt or knew at any given time.

It's possible that she knew JB was responsible, but also possible that she wasn't certain from the outset and the penny only finally dropped later.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #214 on: September 23, 2017, 01:53:PM »
Bamber never dumped Julie. The relationship had been in decline for 6 months & wasn't helped by Bamber murdering his family.

He just said he 'wanted to live his own life'. Julie wasn't bothered & even agreed that Bamber help her move.

However Bamber then asking another woman out in front of her was a fatal mistake.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #215 on: September 23, 2017, 01:53:PM »
Ok. That's you're vision of what you would have done in her situation & at her age. And you believe someone you have never met before would have done the same.

Yes.

Anyway, it's not as if she actually had to go to the police, they interviewed her several times, so how did she manage to keep up the charade? If Jeremy should have been an actor, so should she IMO.

For those who think she was so besotted with Jeremy that she would have gone along with anything, she said if she had known that he personally killed them, Jeremy knew she would have gone to the police and wouldn't expect her to carry on their relationship. I find it bizarre that she thought it was OK for him to get someone else to do it.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #216 on: September 23, 2017, 01:54:PM »
I just think some of the assertions made are a little too monochrome.
We don't know what Julie thought, felt or knew at any given time.

It's possible that she knew JB was responsible, but also possible that she wasn't certain from the outset and the penny finally dropped.

Hartley, you seem to be under the impression that Jeremy didn't say he was responsible for 20 days. That's not the case according to Julie. She said he told her on 7th August - the day of the murders.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #217 on: September 23, 2017, 01:55:PM »
Bamber never dumped Julie. The relationship had been in decline for 6 months & wasn't helped by Bamber murdering his family.

He just said he 'wanted to live his own life'. Julie wasn't bothered & even agreed that Bamber help her move.

However Bamber then asking another woman out in front of her was a fatal mistake.

So you think that Julie was indifferent to him? Why then would she cover up what he'd done?

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #218 on: September 23, 2017, 01:59:PM »
I just think some of the assertions made are a little too monochrome.
We don't know what Julie thought, felt or knew at any given time.

It's possible that she knew JB was responsible, but also possible that she wasn't certain from the outset and the penny only finally dropped later.

I agree. I believe it's perfectly possible she knew what his plan was. But knowing what a plan is and believing it's going to happen are very different things. Accepting that it's happened is probably the hardest part.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #219 on: September 23, 2017, 02:01:PM »
So you think that Julie was indifferent to him? Why then would she cover up what he'd done?

She didn't.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #220 on: September 23, 2017, 02:04:PM »
Hartley, you seem to be under the impression that Jeremy didn't say he was responsible for 20 days. That's not the case according to Julie. She said he told her on 7th August - the day of the murders.

He told her it was MM. He never admitted to her that he killed them.
JB seems to tell a lot of jokes and make up fantasies. It's quite possible JM didn't believe him and thought he was talking his usual nonsense.

Alternatively, she knew exactly what had happened and was happy to go along with it. In the same way a mobsters wife might provide an alibi.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #221 on: September 23, 2017, 02:04:PM »
Yes.

Anyway, it's not as if she actually had to go to the police, they interviewed her several times, so how did she manage to keep up the charade? If Jeremy should have been an actor, so should she IMO.

For those who think she was so besotted with Jeremy that she would have gone along with anything, she said if she had known that he personally killed them, Jeremy knew she would have gone to the police and wouldn't expect her to carry on their relationship. I find it bizarre that she thought it was OK for him to get someone else to do it.

I thought they interviewed her once. Straight after the massacre. To confirm who she was & that Bamber had phoned her at 3am.

Even that interview only happened because Bamber whisked her to WHF in a police car.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #222 on: September 23, 2017, 02:05:PM »
She didn't.

Yes she did. She was interviewed by the police more than once, and she omitted to tell the truth about what he'd said to her. She also told Jeremy that she would never tell anyone what he had done. That's covering up for him.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #223 on: September 23, 2017, 02:06:PM »
Yes she did. She was interviewed by the police more than once, and she omitted to tell the truth about what he'd said to her. She also told Jeremy that she would never tell anyone what he had done. That's covering up for him.

Where does it say she told Jeremy that ?

Please provide sources of the WS's from Julie covering for him.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #224 on: September 23, 2017, 02:07:PM »
I thought they interviewed her once. Straight after the massacre. To confirm who she was & that Bamber had phoned her at 3am.

Even that interview only happened because Bamber whisked her to WHF in a police car.

Three times I think.