" Fresh evidence uncovered ",as stated in todays Essex and Colchester Gazette.

[David1819]

? But they had apparently been listening in anyway ?

That exchange was more sophisticated than we have been led to believe.

The BT operator/s were listening in and reporting back to the police. Then later the police wanted it directed to them so they could listen themselves. This alleged call from Sheila at 6.09 is actually the operator putting the WHF phone through to the police.

[Steve_uk]

The BT operator/s were listening in and reporting back to the police. Then later the police wanted it directed to them so they could listen themselves. This alleged call from Sheila at 6.09 is actually the operator putting the WHF phone through to the police.

Oh will you let the Essex and Colchester Gazette know..

[Jan]

The BT operator/s were listening in and reporting back to the police. Then later the police wanted it directed to them so they could listen themselves. This alleged call from Sheila at 6.09 is actually the operator putting the WHF phone through to the police.

Ahh but remember as no calls could be recorded that can't be proven 

[mike tesko]

The BT operator/s were listening in and reporting back to the police. Then later the police wanted it directed to them so they could listen themselves. This alleged call from Sheila at 6.09 is actually the operator putting the WHF phone through to the police.

linked to these events was the switching on and off of different lights inside the farmhouse, at different times during the seige, and the opening and shutting of curtains at different windows, the movement of the anshuzt rifle to the first floor box room window at around 7.15am, and its removal from there afterwards when after 8.10am it somehow founds its own way onto the bed inbetween the bodies of June and Sheila by 9.10am, and then onto Sheila's body in time for PC Bird to photograph it there in her possesssion on the bedroom floor after 10am...

Oh, and then there is the piece of original badly fragmenteed bullet (exhibit PV/20) which became transformed into  whole bullet by mid September 1985...

[David1819]

Ahh but remember as no calls could be recorded that can't be proven 

It was being recorded. But they destroyed the tape later because it also recorded the police making a mess in the kitchen.

[mike tesko]

linked to these events was the switching on and off of different lights inside the farmhouse, at different times during the seige, and the opening and shutting of curtains at different windows, the movement of the anshuzt rifle to the first floor box room window at around 7.15am, and its removal from there afterwards when after 8.10am it somehow founds its own way onto the bed inbetween the bodies of June and Sheila by 9.10am, and then onto Sheila's body in time for PC Bird to photograph it there in her possesssion on the bedroom floor after 10am...

Oh, and then there is the piece of original badly fragmenteed bullet (exhibit PV/20) which became transformed into  whole bullet by mid September 1985...

Lets also not overlook the existence of the timed police radio message logs, and other reports (7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am and 7.45am) which details two bodies in the kitchen at the time of entry by cops, and only a further three bodies upstairs by 8.10am! Something sinister has occurred here, something which simply cannot be sewpt away under any carpet and forgotten about...

[Jan]

It was being recorded. But they destroyed the tape later because it also recorded the police making a mess in the kitchen.

No I meant on bills so you could allegedly not prove a call had happened .

[David1819]

linked to these events was the switching on and off of different lights inside the farmhouse, at different times during the seige, and the opening and shutting of curtains at different windows, the movement of the anshuzt rifle to the first floor box room window at around 7.15am, and its removal from there afterwards when after 8.10am it somehow founds its own way onto the bed inbetween the bodies of June and Sheila by 9.10am, and then onto Sheila's body in time for PC Bird to photograph it there in her possesssion on the bedroom floor after 10am...

Oh, and then there is the piece of original badly fragmenteed bullet (exhibit PV/20) which became transformed into  whole bullet by mid September 1985...

I am not disputing most of that.

[Reader]

How do you know that the operator even made her own witness statement?

You can't be certain, nobody can be!

Her statement is dated 8 August 1985. It contains the sentence "I am not allowed to engage the Direct Emergency Police line so I again checked into this Maldon number and then phoned the Police Headquarters and connected the two thus enabling the Police to listen to the line." As she was busy, she hadn't been continuously monitoring the line, and the rest of her statement is consistent with the information about line check requests in the police records; the one exception is their mention of 999, but a reasonable explanation of that is that the police officer who requested the operator to link the call to their HQ didn't realize what exactly the BT operator had done. There's nothing to suggest that the BT operator's statement was written for her or "edited" in any way.

The dog (Crispy) as we all know was hiding under the bed in an upstairs bedroom

The dog that was found hiding under a bed wasn't necessarily there all the time, so the operator's mention of it doesn't contradict other evidence, even if its barks in a bedroom wouldn't have been audible in the kitchen.

[lookout]

After a 999 call at 06.09,at approximately 06.25 two ambulances had been sent to the farmhouse.

[lookout]

As we know,if someone has been found dead,a doctor's confirmation is needed to verify this and once it has been confirmed,through examination,a hearse is ordered to collect the deceased,not an ambulance.
This is normal procedure in any eventuality.

[Jane]

As we know,if someone has been found dead,a doctor's confirmation is needed to verify this and once it has been confirmed,through examination,a hearse is ordered to collect the deceased,not an ambulance.
This is normal procedure in any eventuality.

Are you saying that everyone was still alive at the times you give?

[lookout]

Are you saying that everyone was still alive at the times you give?

Whoever rang 999 from WHF at the time did.

[Jane]

Whoever rang 999 from WHF at the time did.

Right. So you have a word for word conversation, do you? I only ask, because IF such exists, it goes beyond EP to the ambulance service who would have been told what were the circumstances and keeping quiet about it must make them part of the conspiracy.

[lookout]

Right. So you have a word for word conversation, do you? I only ask, because IF such exists, it goes beyond EP to the ambulance service who would have been told what were the circumstances and keeping quiet about it must make them part of the conspiracy.

Don't be silly----" word for word conversation " indeed. 
Not necessarily a conspiracy,more of a lack of communication. In this case " the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing " and those outside were obviously waiting for orders----as it was an hour later that the firearms team stormed in.