" Fresh evidence uncovered ",as stated in todays Essex and Colchester Gazette.

[guest2181]

There are page numbers 255 onwards on the bottom right of the pages in the logs thread. Do you mean these numbers?

If so, there are a few which cannot be seen as the photocopy is slightly off the page and one page inconveniently has the bottom right corner folded over.

There are two logs and a few extra communication forms which have these page numbers, so they have all been put together at some stage in to a single document, possibly the Mackenzie Report?

Either way, we can see from the other log that not much happened between the timings you gave.

In fact all the statements etc seem to have these similar page numbers, so they are probably just some organisation method by either the defence, CPS or COLP.

[Jan]

Or they simply missed the page out - what do you imagine happened in 3 minutes to fill a whole page?

That is what I am asking

Is not the whole point of numbering log pages to show that they were written in sequence and not changed at all .

I am not insinuating just asking?

I thought police procedures were there for a reason to put them above reproach.

[Jan]

In fact all the statements etc seem to have these similar page numbers, so they are probably just some organisation method by either the defence, CPS or COLP.

Your explanation seems more likely as the page numbers do not appear in the same place at the bottom of each page . So could they be some kind of stamp ?

[guest2181]

That is what I am asking

Is not the whole point of numbering log pages to show that they were written in sequence and not changed at all .

I am not insinuating just asking?

I thought police procedures were there for a reason to put them above reproach.

The numbers were not written at the same time as the logs, they were added later. We can tell this by the fact that both Bonnetts and Wests logs have these concurrent page numbers.

262 could simply be one of the pages with the corner turned over. Or maybe just a blank page which Mike didn't post?

[Jan]

The numbers were not written at the same time as the logs, they were added later. We can tell this by the fact that both Bonnetts and Wests logs have these concurrent page numbers.

262 could simply be one of the pages with the corner turned over. Or maybe just a blank page which Mike didn't post?

I don't expect he did it deliberately because sometimes the answers are in the details .

[guest2181]

Your explanation seems more likely as the page numbers do not appear in the same place at the bottom of each page . So could they be some kind of stamp ?

I notice that Anne's COLP statement also has the same style numbers but on the top right, they also have the 255 onwards sequence.

[guest2181]

I don't expect he did it deliberately because sometimes the answers are in the details .

No, I'm not suggesting that he did, merely that the claim that this indicates forged logs isn't correct.

[Jan]

No, I'm not suggesting that he did, merely that the claim that this indicates forged logs isn't correct.

I also did not realise there were two sets of logs

Because one has timings on the right and one on the left . Just been reading about that as well .

[guest2181]

I also did not realise there were two sets of logs

Because one has timings on the right and one on the left . Just been reading about that as well .

Yes that's correct. One log is by West and the other is by Bonnett.

[Jane]

Yes that's correct. One log is by West and the other is by Bonnett.

H, I thought this had all been thrashed out. The theory put forward -I believe- is that they were written by the same person but one was kept hidden from the jury?

[Jan]

H, I thought this had all been thrashed out. The theory put forward -I believe- is that they were written by the same person but one was kept hidden from the jury?

 No there is a thread about the two different logs that would have been kept .

That is apparently why written on different notes

[Jan]

H, I thought this had all been thrashed out. The theory put forward -I believe- is that they were written by the same person but one was kept hidden from the jury?

AN ANALYSIS OF THE WIRELESS MESSAGE LOG
AND
ESSEX POLICE COMMUNICATION LOG

 

The Wireless Message Log and Essex Police Communications Log have crucial importance in this case. They are the two separate documents used for the recording of different information from an incident in real time as the investigation unfolds. Because they are written as things happen they have a validity and believability about them over and above other documentation in the case.

[guest2181]

H, I thought this had all been thrashed out. The theory put forward -I believe- is that they were written by the same person but one was kept hidden from the jury?

I'm not sure what all of the claims of conspiracies are, but one log was written be West at Chelmsford Police Station and the other by Bonnett at Chelmsford Police Headquarters. They are two separate buildings.

[Jan]

H, I thought this had all been thrashed out. The theory put forward -I believe- is that they were written by the same person but one was kept hidden from the jury?

It may be that only one was shown to the jury but if they said the same thing then that would not necessarily matter .

[guest2181]

It may be that only one was shown to the jury but if they said the same thing then that would not necessarily matter .

Both were at court. Both are referred to in the court transcripts.