A New Approach

[Stephanie]

It also depends of the levels of psychopathy.

There are numerous reasons I firmly believe Jeremy Bamber to be a psychopath but more importantly if any of us go back and read his police interviews, evidence given in court etc - in other words his factual evidence; if he were telling the truth the facts would have remained the same. They haven't.

There are numerous factual inaccuracies that Jeremy Bamber has clearly manufactured in order to suit his end at that given moment.

And let's not forget, Jeremy Bamber has never publicly commented on Julie Mugfords wealth of evidence against him. Why not?

He's had 32 years to pull apart her witness statements but he's never done so.. He says he has been through his case files with a fine tooth comb and let's not forget he's had decades in which to so.

And say for arguments sake we ignore the label "psychopath" I find Bambers behaviour to be predatory.

An example of this is when he wrote to Caroline after learning she no longer believed he was innocent.

[Steve_uk]

I suppose he's been told to say by Defence counsel that it's all lies. The easiest course of action to take really.

[Adam]

And say for arguments sake we ignore the label "psychopath" I find Bambers behaviour to be predatory.

An example of this is when he wrote to Caroline after learning she no longer believed he was innocent.

Bamber contacts people like Woffinden & Hunter to get more publicity. I assume he contacted Eric Alison as well.

[JackieD]

You're still not getting how she was -in all probability- groomed and you appear -either- not to have the remotest idea of how coercive relationships work, OR to be determined to make Julie responsible for Jeremy's behaviour.

Groomed
What absolute rubbish
She was a fully fledged thief and fraudster with absolutely no conscience

Do you know what conscience means

[Jane]

Groomed
What absolute rubbish
She was a fully fledged thief and fraudster with absolutely no conscience

Do you know what conscience means

I do, but clearly, you don't. I wonder just how much conscience your 'gorgeous fit boy' showed when he robbed his family and involved Julie? THAT'S how she learned the fine art of stealing.

[JackieD]

Just how do you arrive at that conclusion? This was a 'society' funeral. All the great and good of the county were there. Why would she not want to look the part, especially if she felt it would give her some courage?

This is getting beyond ridiculous
Julie had been involved in a 'murder plot' allegedly and she was propping up the murderer who was crying and your saying it's ok for her to want to look good
She should have been at that funeral on her knees

Keep taking the pills Jane J

[Jane]

This is getting beyond ridiculous
Julie had been involved in a 'murder plot' allegedly and she was propping up the murderer who was crying and your saying it's ok for her to want to look good
She should have been at that funeral on her knees

Keep taking the pills Jane J

 Jealous because it wasn't you who was propping him up?  You must remember that Julie is much younger than you.

[Kaldin]

I don't get why some people think Julie didn't have a mind of her own. She committed the cheque fraud without the help of Jeremy, so why would anyone think she robbed the caravan park on the orders of Jeremy? Obviously, it was his idea but could have said no. I just don't understand why some people talk about her as if she was a little child, incapable of making up her own mind. She also sold cannabis at college - that's really not the action of an innocent little victim.

[JackieD]

Jealous because it wasn't you who was propping him up?  You must remember that Julie is much younger than you.

You have completely lost the plot now
Why don't you go and play with Stephanie as you two are so a like

[Stephanie]

This is getting beyond ridiculous
Julie had been involved in a 'murder plot' allegedly and she was propping up the murderer who was crying and your saying it's ok for her to want to look good
She should have been at that funeral on her knees

Why wasn't Jeremy Bamber "at that funeral on his knees?

Interestingly extreme narcissists (which I believe Bamber to be) are pragmatists.

In the words of H G Tudor;

"It is the practical need of fuel which governs all that we do. Contradiction and hypocrisy do not concern us. We can perform a 180 degree turn, a volte face or a complete turnaround and it matters not. Those were yesterday’s words.

[JackieD]

Maggie I completely agree, Kaldin is a wonderful asset to the forum. Now we just need Jan back

[Adam]

I don't get why some people think Julie didn't have a mind of her own. She committed the cheque fraud without the help of Jeremy, so why would anyone think she robbed the caravan park on the orders of Jeremy? Obviously, it was his idea but could have said no. I just don't understand why some people talk about her as if she was a little child, incapable of making up her own mind. She also sold cannabis at college - that's really not the action of an innocent little victim.

She did have a mind of her own.

She used it to spend 20 days with Bamber. Upon his request & pleading.

Then told 5 people, completed a WS & testified.

Oh & she has 'made up her mind' not to retract a word of what she said.

[Jane]

I don't get why some people think Julie didn't have a mind of her own. She committed the cheque fraud without the help of Jeremy, so why would anyone think she robbed the caravan park on the orders of Jeremy? Obviously, it was his idea but could have said no. I just don't understand why some people talk about her as if she was a little child, incapable of making up her own mind. She also sold cannabis at college - that's really not the action of an innocent little victim.

But all of it was FOR Jeremy, or to IMPRESS Jeremy.

[Kaldin]

Why wasn't Jeremy Bamber "at that funeral on his knees?

Interestingly extreme narcissists (which I believe Bamber to be) are pragmatists.

In the words of H G Tudor;

"It is the practical need of fuel which governs all that we do. Contradiction and hypocrisy do not concern us. We can perform a 180 degree turn, a volte face or a complete turnaround and it matters not. Those were yesterday’s words.

Either because he killed them and so wouldn't be upset, or he was just grieving as anyone would at the loss of his family. If he did kill them and Julie knew that (as she later claimed) she should indeed have been on her knees, not holding on to his arm comforting him - she would have known that he wasn't really grieving.

[Kaldin]

But all of it was FOR Jeremy, or to IMPRESS Jeremy.

How do you know that? She made money from the cannabis, and she got some nice things from the cheque fraud. That was nothing to do with Jeremy - she did it with her mate, Susan.