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Offline Kaldin

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #240 on: September 24, 2017, 04:01:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on September 24, 2017, 03:15:PM
I have answered the question, you don't seem to be able to grasp the simple concept of 'Julie was there in front of them, willing and able to identify the twins'. She was THERE!!!!!!!!!

She didn't just happen to be there, she put in a request to see the bodies.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #241 on: September 24, 2017, 04:02:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on September 24, 2017, 04:01:PM
She didn't just happen to be there, she put in a request to see the bodies.

Exactly
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #242 on: September 24, 2017, 04:03:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on September 24, 2017, 04:00:PM

Answer the question for gods sake
Answer how far away the others were located

The people were dead, stone dead and did not need to be identify Ed immediately

Try grasping that

Seriously, it's pointless even answering you. They needed someone to identify the twins, someone was willing to do so at the scene - end of! She didn't put her hand up screaming 'pick me' - you're (as usual) making something out of nothing!
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #243 on: September 24, 2017, 04:03:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on September 24, 2017, 04:01:PM
She didn't just happen to be there, she put in a request to see the bodies.

No she didn't!
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #244 on: September 24, 2017, 04:03:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on September 24, 2017, 03:55:PM
Why shouldn't I disapprove of her? She covered up for him for a whole month and she carried on sharing her life with him. If she'd run off to London in a state, not seen him after that, and then come forward a month later, I might have understood that, but she didn't.

You can disapprove & say you believe you would have acted differently in her situation & at her age.

Obviously because you believe this is not a valid reason for having any kind of stance on the case.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #245 on: September 24, 2017, 04:04:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on September 24, 2017, 04:03:PM
Seriously, it's pointless even answering you. They needed someone to identify the twins, someone was willing to do so at the scene - end of! She didn't put her hand up screaming 'pick me' - you're (as usual) making something out of nothing!

You  provide the proof the twins had to be identified immediately
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #246 on: September 24, 2017, 04:06:PM »
It wasn't a murder scene there was no rush you provide the proof
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #247 on: September 24, 2017, 04:07:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on September 24, 2017, 04:04:PM
You  provide the proof the twins had to be identified immediately

The autopsies!  ::)
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #248 on: September 24, 2017, 04:07:PM »
Quote from: Adam on September 24, 2017, 04:03:PM
You can disapprove & say you believe you would have acted differently in her situation & at her age.

Obviously because you believe this is not a valid reason for having any kind of stance on the case.

I don't need your permission to disapprove of her. Any decent person would have acted differently to her - she must have been as hard as nails.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #249 on: September 24, 2017, 04:08:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on September 24, 2017, 04:06:PM
It wasn't a murder scene there was no rush you provide the proof

In order to carry out an autopsy, you have to identify the deceased - they needed to tell the twins apart!
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #250 on: September 24, 2017, 04:10:PM »
Julie requested to go and identify them. She wasn't asked to.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #251 on: September 24, 2017, 04:12:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on September 24, 2017, 04:10:PM
Julie requested to go and identify them. She wasn't asked to.

So what ?
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #252 on: September 24, 2017, 04:23:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on September 24, 2017, 04:03:PM
No she didn't!

Yes she did - it's in her statement.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #253 on: September 24, 2017, 04:29:PM »
Quote from: Kaldin on September 24, 2017, 04:10:PM
Julie requested to go and identify them. She wasn't asked to.

I didn't say she was 'asked' to, she 'offered' ONLY after Colin and Jeremy has refused. You make it sound like she couldn't wait.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #254 on: September 24, 2017, 04:31:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on September 24, 2017, 04:29:PM
I didn't say she was 'asked' to, she 'offered' ONLY after Colin and Jeremy has refused. You make it sound like she couldn't wait.

She couldn't. She wanted to go and see them as she felt "she had to see the bodies, and she specifically asked DS Jones if she could.
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