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Offline Caroline

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #150 on: August 02, 2017, 01:04:PM »

For clarification ask
 Ngb that should shut you up and just so you are aware I am talking to two companies that are both interested interested in putting together a mini series on the WHF murders because of the amount of evidence that is NOT in the public arena

I'm asking YOU! You live in fantasy land! Don't believe a word of it!  ::)
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #151 on: August 02, 2017, 01:24:PM »
I'm still waiting for proof Jeremy helped himself to potatoes without Nevilles consent
I don't know if I am included in your question as I did comment on the original post.  As far as I was concerned I didn't claim Jeremy 'helped himself' to potatoes or anything else without Nevill's consent.  I'm sure Nevill was well aware of what Jeremy did and if he didn't like it he was quite capable of stopping it., as far as we know he didn't stop it therefore he can't have been bothered about it.  :-\
 

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #152 on: August 02, 2017, 01:35:PM »
I don't know if I am included in your question as I did comment on the original post.  As far as I was concerned I didn't claim Jeremy 'helped himself' to potatoes or anything else without Nevill's consent.  I'm sure Nevill was well aware of what Jeremy did and if he didn't like it he was quite capable of stopping it., as far as we know he didn't stop it therefore he can't have been bothered about it.  :-\
 

Thank you Maggie it was obviously to Jane
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #153 on: August 02, 2017, 01:37:PM »
I'm asking YOU! You live in fantasy land! Don't believe a word of it!  ::)


I don't live in a fantasy that's you Mrs forum hopper

If you had any intelligence you would know the answer
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #154 on: August 02, 2017, 02:00:PM »
I don't know what Julie committing minor cheque book fraud with Susan Battersby as a 19 year old in 1984 , has got to do with Bamber massacring his family. Apart from it would deter Julie from approaching the police after the massacre, as Bamber knew about the cheque book fraud.

Ditto the caravan break in which Bamber got Julie to be a look out. Julie told the police about the caravan break in. The judge also said that the caravan break in showed Bamber trusted Julie enough to involve him in his crimes.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #155 on: August 02, 2017, 02:03:PM »
Really this says it all

In her 17th December 1985 statement she states that by the 1st September she had said to Jeremy; “I would really love to hurt him and told him that I tried to stab the teddy bear that he had given me as a present.”  Julie goes on to state that that night “We didn’t sleep well and at one point I got a pillow and put it over his head, I took it off and he asked me why I did it, and I said if he were dead he would always be with me.”

Abnormal behaviour from the prolific liar and a actress

The poor members of the jury when they saw Mugford was set to receive £25,000 if she convinced the jury Jeremy was responsible for the murders

Jackie
Just my opinion but I would have thought that if Jeremy was not convicted Julie would have got nothing Jeremy would have got the big handout not her

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #156 on: August 02, 2017, 02:07:PM »
I don't know what Julie committing minor cheque book fraud with Susan Battersby as a 19 year old in 1984 , has got to do with Bamber massacring his family. Apart from it would deter Julie from approaching the police after the massacre, as Bamber knew about the cheque book fraud.

Ditto the caravan break in which Bamber got Julie to be a look out. Julie told the police about the caravan break in. The judge also said that the caravan break in showed Bamber trusted Julie enough to involve him in his crimes.

Adam why do you introduce the word "minor" into the cheque book fraud.?  Fraud is fraud and that is the end of that and quite a serious criminal offence I may add.  Maybe Julie was the instigated of the caravan robbery and she trusted Jeremy enough to confide in him none of us know the answer as most of what is written and spoken about on here is either hearsay or a persons opinion. 

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #157 on: August 02, 2017, 02:39:PM »

I don't live in a fantasy that's you Mrs forum hopper

If you had any intelligence you would know the answer



I do know the answer  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #158 on: August 02, 2017, 03:02:PM »


I do know the answer  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


We'll post it then
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #159 on: August 02, 2017, 03:07:PM »
Adam why do you introduce the word "minor" into the cheque book fraud.?  Fraud is fraud and that is the end of that and quite a serious criminal offence I may add.  Maybe Julie was the instigated of the caravan robbery and she trusted Jeremy enough to confide in him none of us know the answer as most of what is written and spoken about on here is either hearsay or a persons opinion.
Totally agree with you Susan.

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« Reply #160 on: August 02, 2017, 03:12:PM »
I don't know what Julie committing minor cheque book fraud with Susan Battersby as a 19 year old in 1984 , has got to do with Bamber massacring his family. Apart from it would deter Julie from approaching the police after the massacre, as Bamber knew about the cheque book fraud.

Ditto the caravan break in which Bamber got Julie to be a look out. Julie told the police about the caravan break in. The judge also said that the caravan break in showed Bamber trusted Julie enough to involve him in his crimes.
There you go minimizing Julie's behaviour to prove your point.  Whichever way you look at it and whatever JB may or may not have done I would bet Julie was no shrinking violet.  She was probably quite a tough cookie who for some reason didn't seem to be able to make good choices.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #161 on: August 02, 2017, 03:14:PM »

We'll post it then

I'm waiting for you to reveal it to the forum.
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« Reply #162 on: August 02, 2017, 03:17:PM »
nope .

It was a letter about her immunity - found another one which lists  drug abuse,  fraud,  drug dealing and burglary .
Do you have a link Jan?

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #163 on: August 02, 2017, 03:32:PM »
Adam why do you introduce the word "minor" into the cheque book fraud.?  Fraud is fraud and that is the end of that and quite a serious criminal offence I may add.  Maybe Julie was the instigated of the caravan robbery and she trusted Jeremy enough to confide in him none of us know the answer as most of what is written and spoken about on here is either hearsay or a persons opinion.

It was Bamber's choice to rob his family & stage the scene.

He said he would be the number one suspect but no one will be able to prove it. He also said he did it to highlight poor security. However then contradicted himself by saying he shouldn't have spent all the money.

Julie was just dragged along in the middle of the night to act as look out.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #164 on: August 02, 2017, 03:35:PM »
Not sure what security Bamber thought he was protecting at the caravan site.

Why would burglars rob a caravan site office ? Chances are there would be nothing of any value. Anything of any value would be in a safe.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.