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« Reply #135 on: August 01, 2017, 07:49:PM »
But leaving the Oxford Street fraud aside Jeremy was involved in the lot.

I would have to check the city of London police report but I thought there was talk of drug smuggling from Canada ? Before she met Jeremy ? But I am prepared to be corrected

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« Reply #136 on: August 01, 2017, 07:52:PM »
I would have to check the city of London police report but I thought there was talk of drug smuggling from Canada ? Before she met Jeremy ? But I am prepared to be corrected
This is Poppy Meze's allegation, which is uncorroborated.

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« Reply #137 on: August 01, 2017, 09:10:PM »
I would have to check the city of London police report but I thought there was talk of drug smuggling from Canada ? Before she met Jeremy ? But I am prepared to be corrected

That's not true.
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« Reply #138 on: August 01, 2017, 09:12:PM »
Combine the fraud, drugs, robbery and then because of the calls and then not telling the police of Jeremy's plans (alleged) she could have been in an awful lot of trouble . And awful lot .

She sold Jeremy's drugs and the robbery was down to him.
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« Reply #139 on: August 01, 2017, 09:38:PM »
I would have to check the city of London police report but I thought there was talk of drug smuggling from Canada ? Before she met Jeremy ? But I am prepared to be corrected

Smuggling from Canada. Julie was a 19/20 year old student at Goldsmiths college. If she did sell cannabis, it would have been to friends within college.
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« Reply #140 on: August 01, 2017, 11:00:PM »
That's not true.

Unlike some I will apologise if that is not true , however there was a document on here that contained that information . I did not realise it was forged .

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« Reply #141 on: August 02, 2017, 12:07:AM »
Unlike some I will apologise if that is not true , however there was a document on here that contained that information . I did not realise it was forged .

Which document?
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« Reply #142 on: August 02, 2017, 12:19:AM »
Unlike some I will apologise if that is not true , however there was a document on here that contained that information . I did not realise it was forged .

Would this not be where you read it? https://jeremybamber.org/julie-mugford/
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« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2017, 06:57:AM »
Really this says it all

In her 17th December 1985 statement she states that by the 1st September she had said to Jeremy; “I would really love to hurt him and told him that I tried to stab the teddy bear that he had given me as a present.”  Julie goes on to state that that night “We didn’t sleep well and at one point I got a pillow and put it over his head, I took it off and he asked me why I did it, and I said if he were dead he would always be with me.” 

Abnormal behaviour from the prolific liar and a actress

The poor members of the jury when they saw Mugford was set to receive £25,000 if she convinced the jury Jeremy was responsible for the murders
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #144 on: August 02, 2017, 07:27:AM »
Really this says it all

In her 17th December 1985 statement she states that by the 1st September she had said to Jeremy; “I would really love to hurt him and told him that I tried to stab the teddy bear that he had given me as a present.”  Julie goes on to state that that night “We didn’t sleep well and at one point I got a pillow and put it over his head, I took it off and he asked me why I did it, and I said if he were dead he would always be with me.”

Abnormal behaviour from the prolific liar and a actress

The poor members of the jury when they saw Mugford was set to receive £25,000 if she convinced the jury Jeremy was responsible for the murders

Well, I doubt that there was anything too sinister about the bear stabbing -it was actually a very safe and healing way to vent her anger- and it doesn't seem that Jeremy was unduly concerned about her putting the pillow over his face when we have his only reaction -after she'd removed it- as asking her why she'd done it. There is nothing there about him struggling for breath or having to fight her off. At this point I think she was probably still in love with him and was scared of losing him. It must also be remembered that she confessed to having done these things suggesting lack of evil intent. Did she not tell counsel "I was very much in love with him. I'd hoped to marry him"?

Perhaps you could back up that statement by producing the document, the conditions of which state that Julie only would receive £25,000 on condition that "she convinced the jury Jeremy was responsible for the murders".
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« Reply #145 on: August 02, 2017, 11:15:AM »
I'm still waiting for proof Jeremy helped himself to potatoes without Nevilles consent
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #146 on: August 02, 2017, 11:19:AM »
I'm still waiting for proof Jeremy helped himself to potatoes without Nevilles consent

Still waiting for you to tell us which documentary you were involved with?
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« Reply #147 on: August 02, 2017, 12:05:PM »
Still waiting for you to tell us which documentary you were involved with?


For clarification ask
 Ngb that should shut you up and just so you are aware I am talking to two companies that are both interested interested in putting together a mini series on the WHF murders because of the amount of evidence that is NOT in the public arena
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #148 on: August 02, 2017, 12:08:PM »
I'm still waiting for proof Jeremy helped himself to potatoes without Nevilles consent

Cat got your tongue Jane
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #149 on: August 02, 2017, 12:32:PM »
Would this not be where you read it? https://jeremybamber.org/julie-mugford/

nope .

It was a letter about her immunity - found another one which lists  drug abuse,  fraud,  drug dealing and burglary .