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Offline Jane

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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #105 on: July 31, 2017, 02:26:PM »
Quote from: maggie on July 31, 2017, 02:23:PM
I was actually just wondering if JM's mother encouraged her to do that interview and dress the way she did?  It is possible she hoped there may be more in it for her daughter if she showed some flesh?
We will never know the answer but it is a possibility.

It's very much a possibility, Maggie, especially as she'd lost her financially secure future to one of HM's holiday camps.
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« Reply #106 on: July 31, 2017, 02:55:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on July 31, 2017, 02:26:PM
It's very much a possibility, Maggie, especially as she'd lost her financially secure future to one of HM's holiday camps.
Sorry to be thick who was HM?
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« Reply #107 on: July 31, 2017, 02:58:PM »
Quote from: maggie on July 31, 2017, 01:50:PM
I imagine you are thinking that RWB is insinuating the £2000 he borrowed was used to pay the hitman? 

How naive was RWB? I do get the impression he lived in a different time but of course that is just an impression. :)

Considering he came up with the idea of Jeremy riding Junes bike dead in the night wearing a wetsuit. Despite being told of Sheila's prints being found on the shell casings. I think his entire judgment was clouded by dollar signs.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8339.msg397057.html#msg397057
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #108 on: July 31, 2017, 03:00:PM »
Quote from: maggie on July 31, 2017, 02:55:PM
Sorry to be thick who was HM?

Maggie hahaha Her Majesty's prison :))
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« Reply #109 on: July 31, 2017, 03:01:PM »
Quote from: maggie on July 31, 2017, 02:55:PM
Sorry to be thick who was HM?


Heheheee ;D Her Majesty ;D ;D ;D
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #110 on: July 31, 2017, 03:16:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on July 31, 2017, 03:01:PM

Heheheee ;D Her Majesty ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Oh sorry!!  Got you!!  ;D ;D ;D  I was trying to think of a Holiday camp with the initial's HM.  :o :o
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« Reply #111 on: July 31, 2017, 03:17:PM »
Quote from: susan on July 31, 2017, 03:00:PM
Maggie hahaha Her Majesty's prison :))
;D ;D ;D ;D  you as well susan!! ;D ;D ;D ;D  nothing embarrassing about that!! ::) ::) ::)
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #112 on: July 31, 2017, 03:35:PM »
Quote from: maggie on July 31, 2017, 02:02:PM
I do agree Bron, the mother figure is very powerful and can in some instances be very destructive.  Makes you think....

Obviously if you bring you children up properly and with a lot of love they won't have problems in later lives

It's nearly always the way the parents behave that affects children. Badly
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #113 on: July 31, 2017, 03:55:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on July 31, 2017, 03:35:PM
Obviously if you bring you children up properly and with a lot of love they won't have problems in later lives

It's nearly always the way the parents behave that affects children. Badly

The way parents behave ALWAYS affects the children. Badly or well.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #114 on: July 31, 2017, 04:03:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on July 31, 2017, 03:35:PM
Obviously if you bring you children up properly and with a lot of love they won't have problems in later lives

It's nearly always the way the parents behave that affects children. Badly
Jackie I think there may be hope for you yet. Very few people are arguing that there are not special circumstances involved when you delve into his (or David Bain's) past. What we can see is the wool being pulled over our eyes for the past 32 years.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #115 on: July 31, 2017, 04:06:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on July 30, 2017, 07:35:PM
C'mon Jan. Such is the hatred you and others bear this woman, it really wouldn't matter HOW she put it coz there's no way on God's earth that you're prepared to believe her.

she ethere lied to put an innocent man in prison or coluded in the murder of 2 young children if you cant hate some one for ethere of those things what the hell can you hate them for.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #116 on: July 31, 2017, 04:33:PM »
Quote from: nugnug on July 31, 2017, 04:06:PM
she ethere lied to put an innocent man in prison or coluded in the murder of 2 young children if you hate some one for ethere of those things what the hell can you hate them for.

I really don't understand hatred of a person not personally known to one. Although I CAN understand hatred for their action.
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #117 on: July 31, 2017, 04:51:PM »
Quote from: Steve_uk on July 31, 2017, 04:03:PM
Jackie I think there may be hope for you yet. Very few people are arguing that there are not special circumstances involved when you delve into his (or David Bain's) past. What we can see is the wool being pulled over our eyes for the past 32 years.

is that a joke, I think you need to look closely at yourself Steve and wonder why you get taken in by all the books you read
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #118 on: July 31, 2017, 04:52:PM »
Quote from: nugnug on July 31, 2017, 04:06:PM
she ethere lied to put an innocent man in prison or coluded in the murder of 2 young children if you cant hate some one for ethere of those things what the hell can you hate them for.

thank you NUG Nug
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Re: A New Approach
« Reply #119 on: July 31, 2017, 05:22:PM »
Quote from: Adam on July 31, 2017, 01:07:PM
Yes her & Susan Battersby did commit minor cheque book fraud once. Smuggling cannabis. I thought she just dealt with it at Goldsmiths college. Although I've never seen a source.

Neither of those crimes relate to the massacre. However Bamber's caravan break in does.

Anyway, there is no possibility of a 21 year old woman doing her second degree trying to frame an innocent man of killing his family. A month after the massacre. On the assumption she was jilted, devastated, mad & savagely vindictive in the first place. 

There are too many huge & obvious disadvantages.


It might be balancing one set of disadvantages against another .

Career ruined , criminal charges , perhaps being accused of perverting the course of justice , perhaps being accused of being an accessory , versus  a clean slate and being hailed a heroine for helping to jail a suspected child killer.

If you are going to hypothesise you should consider both angles .
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