Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[Jane]

It is documented in the public domain that the phone in the kitchen was 'off the hook' from 3.42am, onward! It is in the public domain, that at 5.47am, the phone became mysteriously 'engaged'! It is in the public domain that at 6.05am, the operator patched the call in question through to the control room via the '999' open line system! Which other call did the operator patch through to the control room using the '999' open line system? Are you suggesting it was another different call? The 'off the hook' kitchen phone, became mysteriously 'engaged', at 5.47am, and it was this call which the operator patched through to the control room at 6.05am! There was no other call from the farmhouse after the 5.47am, one, other than at around 8.15am, when DCI Harris used the kitchen phone to call ACC 'Peter' Simpson to update him regarding the whereabouts of Sheila Caffell whose body had gone AWOL from the kitchen scene after 8.10am!

There are enough alleged calls flying around as it is, ALL with varying times and lengths of call and from various people -still it helps to confuse, if nothing else- why would anyone wish to add to their number?

[mike tesko]

No cop is that clever that when they falsify evidence no-one can reconstruct what they have done, or what they did!

It is absolutely crystal clear that cops framed Jeremy Bamber for doing something they themselves were responsible for doing involving the killing of Bambers sister, and the stage managing of his sisters death scene on the main bedroom floor, using a rifle which was found leaning against a box room window, that only fired one of the two bullets which wounded, and killed her!

[mike tesko]

There are enough alleged calls flying around as it is, ALL with varying times and lengths of call and from various people -still it helps to confuse, if nothing else- why would anyone wish to add to their number?

How did cops know that one of the two ambulances was needed urgently at the farmhouse, and the other ambulance to remain on standby in nearby Pages Lane?

[mike tesko]

How did cops know that one of the two ambulances was needed urgently at the farmhouse, and the other ambulance to remain on standby in nearby Pages Lane?

They knew this because Sheila told them that she had shot at least one of the others!

[guest7363]

How did cops know that one of the two ambulances was needed urgently at the farmhouse, and the other ambulance to remain on standby in nearby Pages Lane?

Was the ambulances used Mike?

[mike tesko]

Was the ambulances used Mike?

That's the funny thing, because at 7am when both ambulances and their crews arrived at the scene neither of both ambulances were sent directly to the farmhouse! Not until after 8.30am, when Sheila's body which had gone AWOL from the kitchen after 8.10am, was relocated in the main bedroom on the bed! Ambulance crews entered the farmhouse after 8.30am, and slightly before the police surgeon, Dr Craig at 8.44am, and this was why Craig did not bother to carry out a physical examination of Sheila's body! The ambulance crew had presumeably already declared her dead beforehand!

[Jane]

How did cops know that one of the two ambulances was needed urgently at the farmhouse, and the other ambulance to remain on standby in nearby Pages Lane?

Ambulances along with fire arms teams doesn't require much thinking about. Fairly routine, I'd think.

[guest7363]

That's the funny thing, because at 7am when both ambulances and their crews arrived at the scene neither of both ambulances were sent directly to the farmhouse! Not until after 8.30am, when Sheila's body which had gone AWOL from the kitchen after 8.10am, was relocated in the main bedroom on the bed! Ambulance crews entered the farmhouse after 8.30am, and slightly before the police surgeon, Dr Craig at 8.44am, and this was why Craig did not bother to carry out a physical examination of Sheila's body! The ambulance crew had presumeably already declared her dead beforehand!

Thats the first I've heard of this, is there any statements to view and was the ambulance crew used at trial?

[mike tesko]

That's the funny thing, because at 7am when both ambulances and their crews arrived at the scene neither of both ambulances were sent directly to the farmhouse! Not until after 8.30am, when Sheila's body which had gone AWOL from the kitchen after 8.10am, was relocated in the main bedroom on the bed! Ambulance crews entered the farmhouse after 8.30am, and slightly before the police surgeon, Dr Craig at 8.44am, and this was why Craig did not bother to carry out a physical examination of Sheila's body! The ambulance crew had presumeably already declared her dead beforehand!

Ambulance crews were made to wait an hour and a half after arriving at the scene, before they were allowed to tend to the victims...

[Jane]

Ambulance crews were made to wait an hour and a half after arriving at the scene, before they were allowed to tend to the victims...

There wasn't much they could do for dead bodies.

[mike tesko]

The head of the regional ambulance service also attended the incident...

[mike tesko]

There wasn't much they could do for dead bodies.

Sheila wasn't dead, and did not die until 9.13am, as a result of being shot with the anshuzt rifle from the box room window after 8.10am...

Considering that Sheila got shot in the kitchen by 7.35am, and that by 8.10am there were only three bodies upstairs by that stage, it should be obvious that although cops thought she had been killed in the kitchen upon entry, as per timed police radio log references which were passed and recorded contemporaneously, 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am and 7.45am, her body ended up dead on the bedroom floor in possession of a rifle which at 7.15am, WPC Jeapes and a PC Brown had seen resting against what turns out to be, a first floor box room window, situated between the main bedroom, and a bedroom in which the two child victims were brutally shot to death in overkill style!

The shooting incident in the kitchen, therefore, of Sheila by a cop, is pivotal evidence which serves to establish Jeremy Bambers total innocence in these killings, in particular, the killing of his own sister! Since, because cops shot his sister in the kitchen, a shooting which is covered by an 'OFFICERS REPORT' bearing the reference 1612, how did her body end up on the main bedroom floor, in time for PC Bird (second SOCO team) to photograph her body there after 10pm, in possession of the aforementioned rifle which two and three quarter hours earlier (7.15am) had been resting against a window in another upstairs room of the farmhouse?

[mike tesko]

The head of the regional ambulance service also attended the incident...

Who held this position, on the morning of the tragedy?

[Jane]

Sheila wasn't dead, and did not die until 9.13am, as a result of being shot with the anshuzt rifle from the box room window after 8.10am...

So you keep saying. I guess, now you've accepted Sheila didn't shoot herself, if you're going to remain determined that Jeremy didn't do it, it provides an excellent opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.

[mike tesko]

Ambulance crews were made to wait an hour and a half after arriving at the scene, before they were allowed to tend to the victims...

Ambulance crews were deployed to the scene and given information which had been passed to the operator by way of a '999' call, by Sheila Caffell! She is understood to have told the operator that she had just shot her dad. Upon arrival at the incident the ambulance crews were prevented from going directly to the farmhouse because of safety issues! At 7am, firearm officers did not know the whereabouts inside the farmhouse of Sheila, nor did they know if she still had control of a loaded gun! It was not until about 7.15am when cops finally persuaded her to show the weapon she had been using at a window, before they would let the ambulance crew come to tend to the wounded and the dying!

They tricked Sheila into showing the anshuzt rifle at a first floor box room window!