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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2017, 11:07:PM »
Let's not forget, please, that it was not so long ago that Jeremy was complaining about cops at the scene, using the bodies of his family as props in a movie scene, during 'informatives' conducted between around 9 and 10am!!

Maybe, there's some truth in what I am suggesting!!!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 11:13:PM »
Let's not forget, please, that it was not so long ago that Jeremy was complaining about cops at the scene, using the bodies of his family as props in a movie scene, during 'informatives' conducted between around 9 and 10am!!

Maybe, there's some truth in what I am suggesting!!!

It simply does not add up, for the silencer to have been on during the struggle between Neville Bamber and the shooter in the kitchen, where the silencer scratched the aga surround, and it is still attached to the rifle barrel when Sheila gets shot and killed and her blood gets inside the silencer - as opposed to the gouge marks on Neville Bambers forearm!!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2017, 11:14:PM »
It simply does not add up, for the silencer to have been on during the struggle between Neville Bamber and the shooter in the kitchen, where the silencer scratched the aga surround, and it is still attached to the rifle barrel when Sheila gets shot and killed and her blood gets inside the silencer - as opposed to the gouge marks on Neville Bambers forearm!!

Something dodgy been going on here, in my view!!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2017, 11:17:PM »
If Bamber is guilty of anything, it was to his knowlege that it was a volatile situation at the farmhouse for an upset Sheila to have access to guns and ammunition at such times! How do I figure this out? Well, you remember me once saying to Jeremy that it was possible that Sheila had an accomplice? And he asks me, 'who'?

And I says, 'why, you of course's, says I, 'You were Sheila's accomplice', and he says, he says, 'You Clever Bastard'!!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2017, 11:23:PM »
If Bamber is guilty of anything, it was to his knowlege that it was a volatile situation at the farmhouse for an upset Sheila to have access to guns and ammunition at such times! How do I figure this out? Well, you remember me once saying to Jeremy that it was possible that Sheila had an accomplice? And he asks me, 'who'?

And I says, 'why, you of course's, says I, 'You were Sheila's accomplice', and he says, he says, 'You Clever Bastard'!!

That's why I think what I think!!!
« Last Edit: March 24, 2017, 11:24:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2017, 11:26:PM »
If Bamber is guilty of anything, it was to his knowlege that it was a volatile situation at the farmhouse for an upset Sheila to have access to guns and ammunition at such times! How do I figure this out? Well, you remember me once saying to Jeremy that it was possible that Sheila had an accomplice? And he asks me, 'who'?

And I says, 'why, you of course's, says I, 'You were Sheila's accomplice, and he says, he says, 'You Clever Bastard'!!
I think Jeremy went further, knowing that his sister was quite incapable of killing anyone in her semi-comatose state and killed them all including her, guiding the last two bullets with his hand on hers to fulfil her wish that "All people are bad and should be killed."


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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2017, 11:28:PM »
One thing I know with 100% certainty and that is that Jeremy had nothing at all to do with the two episodes involving the shooting of Sheila! I know he didn't stage his sister's death scene like cops say he did! I believe this entitles me to defend his innocence, since a great wrong has been done to him!!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2017, 11:29:PM »
I think Jeremy went further, knowing that his sister was quite incapable of killing anyone in her semi-comatose state and killed them all including her, guiding the last two bullets with his hand on hers to fulfil her wish that "All people are bad and should be killed."

No, he didn't, she wasn't shot by two bullets from the same gun!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2017, 11:32:PM »
I liken Jeremy's possible involvement on a par to what David Boutflour did when he showed Sheila how to load and fire guns during a Scottish hunting trip! Jeremy gave lessons to Sheila, according to what June told Pamela, but so did David Boutflour!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2017, 11:34:PM »
No, he didn't, she wasn't shot by two bullets from the same gun!

I know that sooner or later the truth will emerge - bullets don't grow on trees (especially bullet fragments PV/20)!!!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2017, 11:50:PM »
That gun was loaded whilst Sheila shot it. She showed no further interest in guns for the next seven years. I don't know how many guns were involved in the White House Farm murders.

What that malicious article written by a misguided ex-con who has influenced the editorship of the Guardian is doing to Colin I shudder to think.

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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2017, 07:16:AM »
I liken Jeremy's possible involvement on a par to what David Boutflour did when he showed Sheila how to load and fire guns during a Scottish hunting trip! Jeremy gave lessons to Sheila, according to what June told Pamela, but so did David Boutflour!

One has to question when, IF David Boutflour's words haven't been manipulated, the Scottish trip occurred. I believe Sheila to have been in her mid teens. If Colin had been there, surely he'd have mentioned it. I've had the odd piano lesson. I have NO interest in learning to play the piano,ergo, I can't play a note, let alone a tune. We understand from Colin -AND June (of the time it's alleged Jeremy was seen to be TRYING to show her how to load a gun. WHY, in the name of God, would he?)- that Sheila had no interest.

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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2017, 09:20:AM »
That gun was loaded whilst Sheila shot it. She showed no further interest in guns for the next seven years. I don't know how many guns were involved in the White House Farm murders.

What that malicious article written by a misguided ex-con who has influenced the editorship of the Guardian is doing to Colin I shudder to think.

I shudder to think how David Boutflour and the rest of the relatives feel about David Boutflour having shown Sheila Caffell how to load ammunition into a gun, and fire it, and deny any knowlege of him being irresponsible in doing so whilst testifying, but whilst at the same time how the very same relatives spoke of Jeremy having been showing Sheila how to load bullets into a rifle which incidentally she did not fire! Pick on Jeremy selectively, yeah, for sure! But we all now know that David Boutflour and the other relatives had an agenda - 'we must take control of the families fortune, it's ours and no outsider is going to get their hands upon it'!

If Jeremy Bamber played any role whatsoever in these murders (not the alleged suicide of Sheila) it was as I believe in the fact that he was showing a mentally disturbed sister how to load ammunition into a rifle, a rifle which fired some of the bullets during the shootings, but not all! This is how I picture in my mind's eye, his potential influence in the proceedings! But by the same token this also applies to David Boutflour! He too was negligent in showing Sheila how to load ammunition into a gun, and (wait for it) fire it!!!

I have had decades to consider Jeremy Bambers plight!

I believe he did and was showing his sister at one time or another how to load bullets into a rifle! I can't be 100% certain that it was the anshuzt rifle that he might have been showing his sister how to load! But I believe that June Bamber did tell her sister Pamela Boutflour that she had seen Jeremy showing Sheila how to load bullets into a gun! I can't see Pamela Boutflour making up such a story about what her sister (June Bamber) told her regarding this! I accept that insofar as Jeremy's role is concerned in this activity it amounts to hearsay, but from June's perspective regarding what she told her sister I believe it has a ring of truth about it! I believe it!

But, David Boutflour also taught Sheila how to load ammunition into a gun, and shoot it!

Worse still the blighter kept quiet about this whilst testifying during the October 1986 trial, or making witness statements in connection with this case to the police!

It was negligent in my view what both Jeremy Bamber, and David Boutflour did, in showing Sheila how to load bullets into a gun, and beyond that /this in David Boutflour's case, allowing Sheila to fire the gun!!!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2017, 09:25:AM »
I somehow would like to believe that for his part that Jeremy regrets ever showing his sister (Sheila) how to load bullets into any gun!
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Re: Guardian - 24th March 2017
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2017, 09:26:AM »
I somehow would like to believe that for his part that Jeremy regrets ever showing his sister (Sheila) how to load bullets into any gun!

But, he was never asked about this by the police in interview, or during the trial!
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