Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.

[JackiePreece]

I think it unlikely that a potential suicide would leave a note saying "I am going to commit suicide". Their intention would, MORE likely, be couched in other terms.

Thinking again Jane
Let's try sticking to facts
Maybe you could try googling suicide notes

[JackiePreece]

I really dispute that Steve. A Registered Nurse is a highly trained and highly skilled individual.  Nursing is one of the few true professions and should be recognised as such.
A good Sister in charge of a ward should know everything about every patient and understand every part of their diagnosis and treatment.  Most doctors recognise Ward Sisters know far more about their patients and treatment required than they do.

I agree Maggie
My niece trained at Addenbrookes and now works in the transplant wards at Barts
She is very knowledgable and has great responsibilities and a lot of nights does not get home until 12 although she is meant to leave at six

[JackiePreece]

I read that eloquent post Steve. If I didn't know better I might think your name was Carol   

Same

[JackiePreece]

Whats is this. An insight into Robert Boutflours imagination?

On a serious note, you have lost your marbles.

I have been saying that for ages

[maggie]

I agree Maggie
My niece trained at Addenbrookes and now works in the transplant wards at Barts
She is very knowledgable and has great responsibilities and a lot of nights does not get home until 12 although she is meant to leave at six

Sounds as though she has a fantastic career Jackie.  Nursing is a profession on a par with doctors, teachers, lawyers etc..
Health Care Assistants are on a par with Teaching Assistants who are well trained and can be excellent at their job but they are not professionals.
Recent governments have devalued the status of nurses, they deserve proper recognition and respect for the amazing job they do.

[guest1199]

Back to the book, the author refers to cop doc Dr Craig as "Seeing ‘only one gunshot wound at that stage’, he felt reasonably satisfied that she had taken her own life. He pronounced both women dead at 8.44am and the twins at 8.50am" So, the only wound he saw must have been the top fatal wound or he wouldn't have pronounced her dead, with the other non-fatal wound not yet inflicted. This is all a bit strange since I thought it was the other way around.  Please advise.

Hoots!

[JackiePreece]

Sounds as though she has a fantastic career Jackie.  Nursing is a profession on a par with doctors, teachers, lawyers etc..
Health Care Assistants are on a par with Teaching Assistants who are well trained and can be excellent at their job but they are not professionals.
Recent governments have devalued the status of nurses, they deserve proper recognition and respect for the amazing job they do.

I do worry about her as she works so hard and gets very close to her patients who very often don't come out of hospital

[Steve_uk]

What evidence have you got that Jeremy PRETENDED to settle down to farming

Provide evidence of him pretending
How ridulous, you an Adam have a lot in common

Jeremy told some of the hired hands that if anything happened to his parents he would just  "pack up and sell the whole thing off". It's strange that a few months later something did happen (I can't help but think of the remark he made on that first morning-"well I didn't know what was going to happen, did I?"). It's this infantile idiot savant intellect that pervades the case and which makes Jeremy so difficult to analyse. But you're in good company Jackie: he fooled Nevill for a time, he fooled Pamela, Thomas and Betty Howie, and tragically Julie. But it's quite clear to me that his new-found enthusiasm for anything farm-related was solely an expedient for the future time he could be rid of it all.

[Steve_uk]

Jane j you are fully aware of the answer
This has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions
As you know Ngb is very knowledgable in guns and would never support JB if he thought Sheila could not reload the gun

It's not just the physical act of reloading. It's running downstairs to reload and having the time to do that and incapacitate Nevill further and additionally cut off a telephone call, all from a young woman who could barely walk straight..

[Steve_uk]

Very good point scales, I wonder why Mugford wouldn't have mentioned the shoes/boots Jeremy was wearing that night?

She was in Lewisham.

[Steve_uk]

Well apparently he was meant to have had a ferocious fight with Neville

Nevill was sixty-one years old, had recently been ill and had put in long hours at the Farm. He had been shot with pellets in his head. Is it any wonder that there was no physical contact with his son?

[Steve_uk]

I think she would have a pretty good idea what shoes Jeremy was wearing as men do not usually have a large collection of shoes and as someone with inside knowledge would know if he destroyed any shoes

If she had been telling the truth there would probably still evidence of blood four weeks later

But there was evidence four weeks later-spots of blood on a shirt collar hanging up in the wardrobe at Bourtree Cottage, which were too badly decomposed by that stage for John Hayward to analyse conclusively.

[Steve_uk]

Back to the book, the author refers to cop doc Dr Craig as "Seeing ‘only one gunshot wound at that stage’, he felt reasonably satisfied that she had taken her own life. He pronounced both women dead at 8.44am and the twins at 8.50am" So, the only wound he saw must have been the top fatal wound or he wouldn't have pronounced her dead, with the other non-fatal wound not yet inflicted. This is all a bit strange since I thought it was the other way around.  Please advise.

Hoots!

Quite simply Dr. Craig was an elderly gentleman GP probably with failing eyesight and who was just about up to writing prescriptions for antibiotics and flattering old ladies' egos in the surgery.

A professional who is not up to the job. What a surprise!

[guest1199]

Quite simply Dr. Craig was an elderly gentleman GP probably with failing eyesight and who was just about up to writing prescriptions for antibiotics and flattering old ladies' egos in the surgery.

A professional who is not up to the job. What a surprise!

What are you trying to tell me?  Did he see the lower non-fatal wound and mistakenly pronounce Sheila dead, or did he correctly pronounce Sheila dead on the evidence of the top wound, with the non-fatal wound yet to be inflicted? Or did he see only one wound, even though being a cop surgeon for 30 years there were actually two?

Hoots!

[Caroline]

There you go again
You do NOT know JB is guilty

Yes, I do but by your argument, you don't know he's innocent!