Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.

[Jane]

Without telling tales out of school,it was Scales who'd first broached the subject of notes yesterday,followed by David's post then the subject continued 24hrs later but feel free to blame me,as per.

I don't respond to David as I have him on ignore. Ergo, I have no idea what he says. I responded to one of Scales' posts in which I believe that I said the subject, whatever it was, had been discussed AD NAUSEUM........................NOW, and here, I AM going to change the subject because this one is becoming boring and I'm not afraid of admitting when I change a subject. A friend of mine has just informed me that, residing at Her Majesty's pleasure in Ford Open Prison, Sussex, are 3 High Court Judges and 67 -yes, sixty seven- solicitors. I thought you might enjoy sticking that in you arsenal of anti establishment views.

[Caroline]

I'd take more water with it next time if I were you.

Why should a note be required ?

Unbelievable! 

[lookout]

I don't respond to David as I have him on ignore. Ergo, I have no idea what he says. I responded to one of Scales' posts in which I believe that I said the subject, whatever it was, had been discussed AD NAUSEUM........................NOW, and here, I AM going to change the subject because this one is becoming boring and I'm not afraid of admitting when I change a subject. A friend of mine has just informed me that, residing at Her Majesty's pleasure in Ford Open Prison, Sussex, are 3 High Court Judges and 67 -yes, sixty seven- solicitors. I thought you might enjoy sticking that in you arsenal of anti establishment views.

Nothing shocks nor surprises me anymore as in the Liverpool Echo on a regular basis,there are police involved in all kinds of horrors. It's becoming quite a regular occurrence,so judges and solicitors aren't much better anyway,as two solicitors who dealt with separate conveyancing in the past both ended up in prison and a third who I knew of who was just coming up to retirement, also ended up doing time instead of landscaping his enormous garden.

[Steve_uk]

Nothing shocks nor surprises me anymore as in the Liverpool Echo on a regular basis,there are police involved in all kinds of horrors. It's becoming quite a regular occurrence,so judges and solicitors aren't much better anyway,as two solicitors who dealt with separate conveyancing in the past both ended up in prison and a third who I knew of who was just coming up to retirement, also ended up doing time instead of landscaping his enormous garden.

I would have thought you're pretty safe engaging them with conveyancing, though I wouldn't trust them with much else.

[Jane]

I would have thought you're pretty safe engaging them with conveyancing, though I wouldn't trust them with much else.

My conveyancer -a girl at a call centre- tried to take me down a road which would have cost me double figure thousands....................until a real solicitor took over and it cost me a couple of hundred.

[Steve_uk]

My conveyancer -a girl at a call centre- tried to take me down a road which would have cost me double figure thousands....................until a real solicitor took over and it cost me a couple of hundred.

Well I was fobbed off at the doctor's surgery with a nurse three years ago which ultimately cost a life. I know these legal advisors can dispense the wrong advice which might hit you in the wallet but how can you possibly play Russian roulette with someone's life?

[Jane]

Well I was fobbed off at the doctor's surgery with a nurse three years ago which ultimately cost a life. I know these legal advisors can dispense the wrong advice which might hit you in the wallet but how can you possibly play Russian roulette with someone's life?

How strange you should say that, Steve. The doctor friend who I was speaking with today, retired from  NHS 20 years ago because he said he found it impossible to have to spend more time on paper work than on patients. He said he could foresee tragedies. He's been proved right.

[Steve_uk]

How strange you should say that, Steve. The doctor friend who I was speaking with today, retired from  NHS 20 years ago because he said he found it impossible to have to spend more time on paper work than on patients. He said he could foresee tragedies. He's been proved right.

Jane I don't want to disparage nurses but they are not doctors and should not set themselves up as such; neither should teaching assistants pretend to be teachers. I'm sure there are more examples.

[Jane]

Jane I don't want to disparage nurses but they are not doctors and should not set themselves up as such; neither should teaching assistants pretend to be teachers. I'm sure there are more examples.

I totally agree, Steve, albeit with the rider that, for the most part, I believe they do sterling work. Sadly, it seems that circumstances may be forcing them to make decisions that really aren't theirs to make.

[lookout]

I would have thought you're pretty safe engaging them with conveyancing, though I wouldn't trust them with much else.

Embezzlement

[lookout]

Well I was fobbed off at the doctor's surgery with a nurse three years ago which ultimately cost a life. I know these legal advisors can dispense the wrong advice which might hit you in the wallet but how can you possibly play Russian roulette with someone's life?

I've just been on the phone with my g/daughter whose partner was treated with a " chest infection " last November--------which turned out to be Sepsis ! He was hospitalized for a while but since being discharched,which was before Christmas,he didn't feel right so went back to the GP who told him to take Paracetamol.
The poor lad has what appears to be Lymphoma------with every gland in his body swollen and he's lost about 2 stone in weight because he can't keep anything down. An emergency CT scan was ordered and he has a biopsy on Monday,under general anaesthetic,so the outlook is a long-haul of chemo and radiotherapy.
So the " chest infection " turned out to be something worse if they'd taken the trouble to look in the first place !!
His white blood count at the time would have been sky high.

[Steve_uk]

I've just been on the phone with my g/daughter whose partner was treated with a " chest infection " last November--------which turned out to be Sepsis ! He was hospitalized for a while but since being discharched,which was before Christmas,he didn't feel right so went back to the GP who told him to take Paracetamol.
The poor lad has what appears to be Lymphoma------with every gland in his body swollen and he's lost about 2 stone in weight because he can't keep anything down. An emergency CT scan was ordered and he has a biopsy on Monday,under general anaesthetic,so the outlook is a long-haul of chemo and radiotherapy.
So the " chest infection " turned out to be something worse if they'd taken the trouble to look in the first place !!
His white blood count at the time would have been sky high.

I picked up a leaflet in Boots the other day stating that any unexplained pain which doesn't go away for a protracted period could be cancer and should be investigated. I won't go into personal circumstances but had I been aware of this three years ago it might have saved a life. I also think there's a hidden agenda whereby these scans are rationed due to resources and that in itself is a scandal.

[maggie]

Jane I don't want to disparage nurses but they are not doctors and should not set themselves up as such; neither should teaching assistants pretend to be teachers. I'm sure there are more examples.

I really dispute that Steve. A Registered Nurse is a highly trained and highly skilled individual.  Nursing is one of the few true professions and should be recognised as such.
A good Sister in charge of a ward should know everything about every patient and understand every part of their diagnosis and treatment.  Most doctors recognise Ward Sisters know far more about their patients and treatment required than they do. 

[lookout]

Jane I don't want to disparage nurses but they are not doctors and should not set themselves up as such; neither should teaching assistants pretend to be teachers. I'm sure there are more examples.

I saw a " junior " doctor last week and I told him in my" Miss Faversham" way that I was sorry I wasted his time,because he kept leaving the room to speak with " his colleague next door !" So I then said he'd have done well listening to what I had to say.
It's a frightening situation for anyone when their GP doesn't know what's going on.

[Steve_uk]

I really dispute that Steve. A Registered Nurse is a highly trained and highly skilled individual.  Nursing is one of the few true professions and should be recognised as such.
A good Sister in charge of a ward should know everything about every patient and understand every part of their diagnosis and treatment.  Most doctors recognise Ward Sisters know far more about their patients and treatment required than they do.

I have nothing but praise for how my mother was treated by the nursing staff in her last few weeks but my anger is reserved for the nurse at the doctor's surgery setting herself up as a doctor and misdiagnosing my mother's cancer as a kidney infection. On the second occasion I took her to the surgery after insistence that there was something wrong the doctor himself failed to diagnose the cancer. A scan which might well have detected it was not forthcoming until it was too late.