Bamber 'wanting to hear a friendly voice'. At 3am.

[Stephanie]

A contradiction in terms,didn't you just say he had no trouble rattling off to the police when questioned ? Assuming he didn't stop for breath ? Now you're saying he hesitated.
I can also contradict what I said by saying that there would be a certain amount of hesitation because he had to think about what he said and how he said it.
It's generally liars who've got it all worked out,so innocent or guilty,this is something you can't go by.

I am not referring to your belief in his innocence Lookout. I know you are the type of person, even if you saw it with your own eyes, you'd probably say you saw something else.

I am referring to your contradictions. The contradiction you yourself point out!

[Stephanie]

xxxx. You have never even set eye's on him. 

I have not suggested I have. I have not set eyes on him in the way to which you refer no, but I have seen the numerous photographs and media footage. And SH told me things about him.

But for your information, I have spoken to many of Jeremy Bamber's supporters over the years. Some of which are still campaigning for him today. Am I am not referring to Jackiepreece nor Aunt Agatha. Though I did have contact with Aunt Agatha on facebook many moons ago. She was in fear for her safety at the time, if memory serves me correct and used a male name instead of her own.

I should add, that I was contacted by them, not the other way round. I also recall speaking to someone called Yvonne and another women, whose name I don't recall just now. Think her surname was Lee or Leigh. I can't recall.. But I do recall the conversations we had at the time. Her name was Leigh Palmer.

There are others to whom I have spoken, who were once very much involved with Jeremy Bamber and had met him but who no longer believe he is innocent. I am not prepared to name them as they are victims imo.

The Jeremy Bamber I have heard about is not the Jeremy Bamber you describe.

[David1819]

Isn't it against forum rules to call another poster a xxxx?

Maybe if the allegation is unfounded xxx xxxx xx xxx.

I have witnessed over the years how Jeremy Bamber provokes others and I witness how his victims react.

This is a flat out xxx.

You have never visited Jeremy nor have you ever seen him. Hence you cannot have witnessed anything.

Who are these 'victims' of Jeremy's alleged provocation you have witnessed? can any of them please come forward to corroborate the claims? 

Yesterday you were accusing me of harassment! 

That was not me.

[Stephanie]

David,have you read about who the latest Patron is ? Dr.Dennis Eady,who,last year helped free a prisoner after 12 years,Dwaine George, whose sentence was quashed.

And another of the many who refused to accept the guilt of SH. Yes Lookout, I have posted about him before. Dennis Eady is another individual who clearly has a lot of catching up to do. It's a shame he didn't learn lessons from Dr Michael Naughton and Gabe Tan. He and his colleague Julie Price appeared to use SH confession as an opportunity to have a subtle dig at the founder of the innocence project.

Seems the Cardiff Law school are lagging behind and will no doubt learn the hard way; as those before them have done.

[Stephanie]

That was not me.

Yes David, it wasn't you! I made a mistake. Hence why I amended my post accordingly, before you posted the above!

[lookout]

Did Gabe Tan start off at Cardiff too ?

[lookout]

I know she joined up with Michael Naughton,but I don't know where.
I can't possibly know everything there is to know. , but I do know that she'd run rings round a lot of  the boffins in their field.

[Stephanie]

xxxx You have never even set eye's on him. 

And if you perceive me to 'lie' David, what are your reasoning's for such unfounded claims? What motivation could I have to lie? You are xxxxxxx.

[Stephanie]

I know she joined up with Michael Naughton,but I don't know where.
I can't possibly know everything there is to know. , but I do know that she'd run rings round a lot of  the boffins in their field.

Gabe Tan was wrong. She too made mistakes; an error in judgement.

You've just mentioned Dennis Eady and now Gabe Tan. Yes, I am in no doubt she would run rings around 'boffins' such as Mr Eady. The man has an awful lot to learn!

[Stephanie]

Did Gabe Tan start off at Cardiff too ?

Why don't you look for yourself?

[mike tesko]

Do other people agree with the 2002 appeal judges.  Or believe that 'wanting to hear a friendly voice' negates the above 15 disadvantages ?

Guilters believe Bamber was in control of the situation.  Ringing Julie to give her an update she was not expecting, and literally wanting to 'hear a friendly voice' after he had killed his 5 closest relatives'.

Supporters may agree with the 2002 appeal judges & my 15 reasons. But claim Bamber was in a panic and behaved irrationally. It's just bad luck that this irrational action once again badly incriminated him.

First of all, I doubt believe that Jeremy made a 3 am call to Julie Mugford. My recollection of the many occasions we talked about phone calls to the police, from his dad to him, from his call to police, and his call to Julie Mugford,  these calls were received or made somewhere between 7.25am, and 3.45am. Attempts were made to move the times of the calls made by Jeremy to Julie Mugford in an attempt to bolster the prosecutions case. Many of Julie's house mates were drug users, or drug dealers, with Criminal records...

Jeremy couldn't have killed his sister in the bedroom until after 8.10am,  because she was downstairs in the kitchen from 7.37am, to 8.10am, and throughout this period and beyond Jeremy was in the company of police officers in Pages Lane, so he couldn't have killed his sister once her body ended up in the bedroom after 8.am. Since, Sheila was not fatally shot in the main bedroom until 9.13am, I feel certain that Jeremy wouldn't have been interested in hearing a friendly voice at 3 am, or thereabouts. If so, why?

[guest7363]

For all we know he could have been looking to her for an answer to what to do.He'd appeared to somewhat rely on her because she was the stronger person of the two,having been more streetwise than he,etc. JB had had an entirely different background to JM as regards " dysfunction " and the like with her parents having parted company for whatever reason which possibly made JM grow up quicker than she normally would have as it does affect girls in this way.
Because his life had been sheltered in comparison before he moved house,I don't doubt that everything was done for him,as even when he moved,it was JM who was doing the decorating and tidying up,so he had relied on her even then.

His life sheltered and him not being streetwise, come on Lookout he spent months and months travelling Australia/New Zealand on his own, a very big task to undertake and only returning because lack of funds?

[Stephanie]

First of all, I doubt believe that Jeremy made a 3 am call to Julie Mugford. My recollection of the many occasions we talked about phone calls to the police, from his dad to him, from his call to police, and his call to Julie Mugford,  these calls were received or made somewhere between 7.25am, and 3.45am. Attempts were made to move the times of the calls made by Jeremy to Julie Mugford in an attempt to bolster the prosecutions case. Many of Julie's house mates were drug users, or drug dealers, with Criminal records...

Jeremy couldn't have killed his sister in the bedroom until after 8.10am,  because she was downstairs in the kitchen from 7.37am, to 8.10am, and throughout this period and beyond Jeremy was in the company of police officers in Pages Lane, so he couldn't have killed his sister once her body ended up in the bedroom after 8.am. Since, Sheila was not fatally shot in the main bedroom until 9.13am, I feel certain that Jeremy wouldn't have been interested in hearing a friendly voice at 3 am, or thereabouts. If so, why?

Maybe you should look at the times Jeremy gave to the police during his police interviews Mike? Seems he wasn't being straight up with you.

[lookout]

His life sheltered and him not being streetwise, come on Lookout he spent months and months travelling Australia/New Zealand on his own, a very big task to undertake and only returning because lack of funds?

So travelling is supposed to constitute not having been streetwise or sheltered ?
You are what you are and travelling doesn't make any difference whatsoever except to broaden the mind and nothing to do with the way you were born and brought up.You're still the same person you were before you set off.
He returned because his visa would be running out as the Antipodean climes doesn't allow overstaying

[Jane]

So travelling is supposed to constitute not having been streetwise or sheltered ?
You are what you are and travelling doesn't make any difference whatsoever except to broaden the mind and nothing to do with the way you were born and brought up.You're still the same person you were before you set off.
He returned because his visa would be running out as the Antipodean climes doesn't allow overstaying

Boarding school knocks any non streetwiseness out of pupils. They are trained -you love that word, don't you?- to be independent. SOME of the stories about Jeremy's Antipodean adventures MAY be apocryphal but the law of averages says some will have the ring of truth to them. I'm recognizing the wet behind the ears, Mummy's boy who still needs his bottom wiped, that you're presenting Jeremy as being, less and less.