Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:

[Steve_uk]

Well he had time to pick up a phone and dial Bamber, tell him Sheila/sister is going berserk with a gun so i would naturally think he had chance.  Even after taking four shots upstairs he managed to get downstairs again. We are talking about a former RAF pilot here David, fearless, brave and used to planning to detail?  6'4" tall, farmer and Magistrate having to deal with Sheila running about his farmhouse in her nightie and no footwear not used to shooting, not used to shooting quick, not used to reloading, yes he had chance to get to her, anxiety no matter what time of the day or night would have kicked his adrenalin in and his survival instinct, especially after making a frantic phone call to his son, or so we are lead to believe.  That's why I believe he was taken by surprise in the bedroom, with no chance or time to make a phone call and he made his way downstairs to get his shotgun, his only defence after taking four quick shots?
Yes this is a believable scenario. The idea of Nevill meekly putting the telephone receiver down after Sheila cuts him off with one hand whilst holding the rifle with the other re Scott Lomax is incredible.

[lookout]

if the scenario in post,rely,' 49' had occurred what sort of marks woud you expect on jb

Marks like he'd been in a fight with a fit, 6ft 4 farmer with arms liike hams.

[guest7363]

forgot that one Steve the line went dead?

[Steve_uk]

forgot that one Steve the line went dead?
Yes this is a believable scenario. The idea of Nevill meekly putting the telephone receiver down after Sheila cuts him off with one hand whilst holding the rifle with the other re Scott Lomax is incredible.

[Steve_uk]

Oh dear I've done it again.

[Jane]

Marks like he'd been in a fight with a fit, 6ft 4 farmer with arms liike hams.

'Cept he was hardly "fit". He'd been shot 4 times. One arm was useless. He was probably in considerable pain.

[sami]

Marks like he'd been in a fight with a fit, 6ft 4 farmer with arms liike hams.

one arm like a ham the other would not have been any good,but a least you admit to his physical condition ,so why arent there any marks on sheila,cause she was not involved in the kitchen fight

[guest7363]

Oh dear I've done it again.

Ha ha never mind Steve your post added a lot of weight and one I had forgot about.

[sami]

Well he had time to pick up a phone and dial Bamber, tell him Sheila/sister is going berserk with a gun so i would naturally think he had chance.  Even after taking four shots upstairs he managed to get downstairs again. We are talking about a former RAF pilot here David, fearless, brave and used to planning to detail?  6'4" tall, farmer and Magistrate having to deal with Sheila running about his farmhouse in her nightie and no footwear not used to shooting, not used to shooting quick, not used to reloading, yes he had chance to get to her, anxiety no matter what time of the day or night would have kicked his adrenalin in and his survival instinct, especially after making a frantic phone call to his son, or so we are lead to believe.  That's why I believe he was taken by surprise in the bedroom, with no chance or time to make a phone call and he made his way downstairs to get his shotgun, his only defence after taking four quick shots?

yes i will agree to that,justice,good points

[lookout]

'Cept he was hardly "fit". He'd been shot 4 times. One arm was useless. He was probably in considerable pain.

Sami reckoned that he could still have grappled with " Sheila "

[Jane]

Sami reckoned that he could still have grappled with " Sheila "

Without knowing exactly what the scenario was, the MOST I can see him doing was possibly being able to deflect the barrel of the gun away from his body.

[sami]

Sami reckoned that he could still have grappled with " Sheila "

how can you compare jb with sheila,come on use a bit of common sense.jb could take on half a dozen sheila's by knocking them out one after the other.and cause he was fighting for his life

[lookout]

Without knowing exactly what the scenario was, the MOST I can see him doing was possibly being able to deflect the barrel of the gun away from his body.

Which was probably when he got burned with her cigar,on his " good " arm.

[sami]

Sami reckoned that he could still have grappled with " Sheila "

as i said before if it were sheila he would still be alive today,i firmly believe he had the power to grab the barrel and hold on to it,leaving his face unprotected hence the broken noise and black eyes

[Jane]

Which was probably when he got burned with her cigar,on his " good " arm.

OK, so now we have Sheila toting -and loading- a gun with one hand and holding a cigar in the other? Hmm!!!!