Questions about Neville's 'mysterious' call to Bamber:

[sami]

He could also have done the same if it had been Jeremy too ?  There were plenty of rifles in the place to use for bashing if not shooting.
3 adults would have overcome 1 man,but two adults against an unstable woman with a rifle is no match.

he did,it is clear he was not shot the first 4 times in the kitchen.so he went to kitchen to arm himself but never made it to the guns,because it was jb he was fighting in the kitchen,not sheila,3 adults 2 adults thats all nonsense ,neville alone woukd have diarmed sheila even with 4 bullets in him

[lookout]

he did,it is clear he was not shot the first 4 times in the kitchen.so he went to kitchen to arm himself but never made it to the guns,because it was jb he was fighting in the kitchen,not sheila,3 adults 2 adults thats all nonsense ,neville alone woukd have diarmed sheila even with 4 bullets in him

Neville only had 1 arm free.How much could he have done using i arm ?

[sami]

Neville only had 1 arm free.How much could he have done using i arm ?

yes and had he grabbed the barrel with that hand sheila would not have been able to free it,all he had to do then is to sweep her feet from underneath her ,fight over

[lookout]

yes and had he grabbed the barrel with that hand sheila would not have been able to free it,all he had to do then is to sweep her feet from underneath her ,fight over

And how do you think Neville would have tackled Jeremy,bearing in mind that Jeremy didn't have a mark on him ?

[sami]

And how do you think Neville would have tackled Jeremy,bearing in mind that Jeremy didn't have a mark on him ?

he could not win against jb with that arm.apart from his face how can you say with out any doubt that there were on marks on jb's body,because no one examined him ,he may also have worn a mask.he would be trying to fend jb off with 1 hand , jb could easily grab his wrist or hand and bash him with the rifle with the other hand,which is what i think he did, easy

[Jane]

And how do you think Neville would have tackled Jeremy,bearing in mind that Jeremy didn't have a mark on him ?

But there is no proof that he didn't because no one got a good look at him, plus he'd undoubtedly have worn protective clothing of some sort..................and I don't mean a wetsuit.

[lookout]

he could not win against jb with that arm.apart from his face how can you say with out any doubt that there were on marks on jb's body,because no one examined him ,he may also have worn a mask.he would be trying to fend jb off with 1 hand , jb could easily grab his wrist or hand and bash him with the rifle with the other hand,which is what i think he did, easy

Didn't JM say that there were no marks on JB's body ? Afterall, she couldn't wait to " sleep with the murderer " and if anyone would have seen signs of a fight/struggle,she would. 

[Jane]

Didn't JM say that there were no marks on JB's body ? Afterall, she couldn't wait to " sleep with the murderer " and if anyone would have seen signs of a fight/struggle,she would.

Perhaps there were no marks that she saw.

[sami]

Didn't JM say that there were no marks on JB's body ? Afterall, she couldn't wait to " sleep with the murderer " and if anyone would have seen signs of a fight/struggle,she would.

oh so you believe jm when it suits you,othertimes she's a liar 

[lookout]

Perhaps there were no marks that she saw.

Give me a break !! She'd have been all over him like ivy. Besides,it would have been well broadcast iif he'd been covered in cuts and bruises-------------------but he wasn't,because it WASN'T him !

[Jane]

Give me a break !! She'd have been all over him like ivy. Besides,it would have been well broadcast iif he'd been covered in cuts and bruises-------------------but he wasn't,because it WASN'T him !

Exactly WHY would she "have been all over him like ivy", Lookout. Didn't she say in a WS they hadn't had sex since "it" happened?

[lookout]

Exactly WHY would she "have been all over him like ivy", Lookout. Didn't she say in a WS they hadn't had sex since "it" happened?

That doesn't alter the fact that she'd have seen his body when they were in bed,sex or not.I can't imagine that either would have worn pyjamas mid-August.

[guest7363]

That's assuming Neville would get to her before she had a chance to shoot at him

Well he had time to pick up a phone and dial Bamber, tell him Sheila/sister is going berserk with a gun so i would naturally think he had chance.  Even after taking four shots upstairs he managed to get downstairs again. We are talking about a former RAF pilot here David, fearless, brave and used to planning to detail?  6'4" tall, farmer and Magistrate having to deal with Sheila running about his farmhouse in her nightie and no footwear not used to shooting, not used to shooting quick, not used to reloading, yes he had chance to get to her, anxiety no matter what time of the day or night would have kicked his adrenalin in and his survival instinct, especially after making a frantic phone call to his son, or so we are lead to believe.  That's why I believe he was taken by surprise in the bedroom, with no chance or time to make a phone call and he made his way downstairs to get his shotgun, his only defence after taking four quick shots?

[Jane]

That doesn't alter the fact that she'd have seen his body when they were in bed,sex or not.I can't imagine that either would have worn pyjamas mid-August.

Possibly not. But it doesn't rule out, that if he was trying to hide something, he MAY have.................unless he'd been well protected. In any case, as he'd been working on the farm, why might one scratch have been different from another?

[sami]

That doesn't alter the fact that she'd have seen his body when they were in bed,sex or not.I can't imagine that either would have worn pyjamas mid-August.

if the scenario in post,rely,' 49' had occurred what sort of marks woud you expect on jb