What makes Bamber innocent?

[mike tesko]

Do the missing photographs, 1,2,3,4,5,6,9, and 10, from negative strip 00039 prove that there was no silencer inside the gun cupboard on the morning of the shootings?

This is an important question, since if it wasn't, and the silencer was used during the shootings, then whoever introduced 'that' silencer into 'that' gun cupboard must have had something to do with the killings...

The relatives introduced the silencer, not Jeremy...

Robert Boutflour was the first to make mention of a possible silencer having been use in the shootings, and as a result of his interest in a silencer, it was he who told the cops that one had been recovered from the farmhouse, which caused DS Jones to go and see Peter Eaton, and duly collect one on the evening of 12th August, 1985...

I don't know why Peter Eaton handed a silencer over because he wasn't there at the time of its alleged fine on the 10th August, 1985...

[mike tesko]

One of the problems faced by Essex police at that stage, was that 'all the relatives all owned their own parker hale silencers', and neither Robert Boutflour, nor David Boutflour, or Ann Eaton, knew to whom and to which rifle, the silencer they say was found in the gun cupboard on the 10th August 1985, belonged? Since, unbeknown to them, there were normally two identical looking parker hale silencers kept at the farmhouse, one belonging to Ralph Bambers .22 anshuzt rifle, and the other belonging to Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle...

[mike tesko]

One of the problems faced by Essex police at that stage, was that 'all the relatives all owned their own parker hale silencers', and neither Robert Boutflour, nor David Boutflour, or Ann Eaton, knew to whom and to which rifle, the silencer they say was found in the gun cupboard on the 10th August 1985, belonged? Since, unbeknown to them, there were normally two identical looking parker hale silencers kept at the farmhouse, one belonging to Ralph Bambers .22 anshuzt rifle, and the other belonging to Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle...

Jeremy was adamant that Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle, and his parker hyale silencer were present at the farmhouse at the time of the shootings. You can see this, because Jeremy includes Anthony's rifle in the list of weapons that were inside the farmhouse which police asked him to draft up for them before they attempted to gain entry...

Why would Jeremy make something up, like that?

I don't think he did make that up. I am satisfied that Anthony Pargeters .22 bruno rifle, and his .22 parker hale silencer were there, in the farmhouse, exactly like Jeremy had said. So Why has Pargeter tried to distance his weapon and his own parker hale silencer from the incident?

I think the answer to that is that there is an excellent prospect that his weapon, and his silencer did play a pivotalo role in the shootings that night...

[Jane]

He did, on the basis of information received from Essex police, and input from me regarding the semi nude photograph of Sheila on the bed. Jeremy thought the blue leggings belonged to his mum, but I don't think so, I believe Sheila had been wearing them during the attacks. What puzzles me, is who washed them or rinsed them out? Her knickers were soaking downstairs in the kitchen where the body of her father ended up. A box of 9 tampons in a box on one of the two single beds in Sheila;s bedroom. A solitary empty tampon container found on a sofa in the lounge...

The pathologist confirmed that Sheila was in the first stages of her menstrual cycle, and that she had a tampon inserted at the time of her death...

That's why I think those light blue leggings were being worn by Sheila...

Thank-you, Mike, Then would I be correct in saying that it was you who told Jeremy that police had sexually violated his sister's body. I can't envisage a scenario in which police would admit to him that they'd done so.

I don't believe Sheila was wearing light blue leggings when she went to Tiptree that afternoon and you can take it as read that they wouldn't have belonged to a "twin set and pearls" lady like June.

[mike tesko]

Something which has stuck in my mind ever since I first heard mention of it back in 1989, when Jeremy first told me that there had been some sort of a discussion involving David Boutflour and Anthony Pargeter, regarding a silencer which cops had handed back to the family? From the research I have carried out spanning nearly 30 years, I have not come across any evidence where cops supposedly handed a silencer back to the family (at least not until after the trial, in October, 1986, when parker hale silencers belonging to Robert Boutflour, and David Boutflour, were returned to them, against signature).No, the instance that was originally mentioned to me, occurred I was led to believe after cops had seized a parker hale silencer from Peter Eaton, and prior to Jeremys re-arrest at Dover at the back end of September, 1985...

The only matter that I have been remotely able to link it too, is the possibility that the relatives seized the two parker hale silencers from the scene, but that they only handed one over to the cops at first...
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In this respect, I am suggesting that Peter Eaton handed one of the two silencers over to DS Jones on the 12th August, 1985, and that in the meantime, Anthony Pargeter was 'enquiring' of the whereabouts of his own Parker hale silencer (the one he always had kept at the farm). I believe that David Boutflour may have shown Anthony Pargeter and told him that the cops had handed this silencer back to the family, which was not strictly true, because by that stage the cops didn't or might not have known about the existence of two identical parker hale silencers being kept at the farm. Upon being shown the second silencer, I believe Anthony Pargeter told David Boutflour that the silencer he was showing him, was not the one belonging to him, the one being shown to him belonged to the Bamber owned anshuzt rifle. I believe this exchange of words and the showing of the second parker hale silencer to Anthony Pargeter, sparked off the secondary activity involving the second parker hale silencer being handed over to DC Oakey by Ann Eaton on the 11th September, 1985. I believe from the intense amount of research that I have carried out in this regard indicates in the strongest terms possible, that Peter Eaton handed over the wrong parker hale silencer to DS Jones on the 12th August 1985, he handed over the Anthony Pargeter silencer (DB/1). This mistake was not corrected until the 11th September, 1985, when Ann Eaton handed over the Bamber owned parker hale silencer (DRB/1)...

I know that I am right about all of this...

The Bamber owned parker hale silencer (DRB/1) was fingerprinted by DS Eastwood, and DS Davidson, on the 13th September, 1985, and 'it' was not sent to the lab' to be checked for blood and fibres, until the 20th September, 1985. What all this means, is that the key flake of blood attributed to Sheila (A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP2/1) was not found inside the parker hale silencer bearing the identifying mark, DRB/1, but rather it had been recovered from the Anthony Pargeter owned parker hale silencer, marked DB/1...

The source of the key blood evidence in the form of the flake of blood, has been switched from DB/1 to DRB/1 at the stroke of a pen (on several occasions, which required alteration so that both parker hale silencers could be merged into the same one)...

[mike tesko]

Thank-you, Mike, Then would I be correct in saying that it was you who told Jeremy that police had sexually violated his sister's body. I think you have got the wrong end of the stick, in the sense that I did no such thing. Jeremy had by that stage received new photographs of his fathers body in the kitchen with his pyjama bottoms down around his ankles, and the other photographs, including the one with the banner on the roof at whf saying 'Mick was here', or words to that effect. I believe Jeremy had already got in his mind to complain before I obtained the image of Sheila on the bed which I recounted to him, over the phone on the evening that I came into possession of that photograph, and in the accompanying letter I addressed to Jeremy in the same A4 envelope that I posted the image of Sheila to him, which prison security intercepted. I don't have to keep explaining what I did regarding the possession I had of that photograph, the matter is well documented and Jeremy does not doubt my word that everything I have recounted to him about what I did, I thought that I was doing in Jeremys best interests. In any event, on the same evening of the day that I came into possession of the photograph which proves Sheila was on the bed, prior to her body becoming photographed on the bedroom floor, and during 'that' booked phone call, Jeremy himself had urged me to send 'it' in to him. He didn't tell me not to send the photograph by 'Rule 37A' method, and thats what he got upset about, about me using the privileged mail system between an inmate and his legal advisor. Anyway, I didn't invite or suggest to Jeremy that he should seek to make a complaint about the manner with which cops behaved at the farmhouse interfering with the bodies of the victims. So don't blame me for something I certainly did not do... I can't envisage a scenario in which police would admit to him that they'd done so But, how strange, don't you think that Ralphs pyjama bottoms were down around his ankles, and Sheila was on the bed with the hem of her nightie pulled up above the top of her thighs?  To me, I think Jeremy is right to believe that such behaviour involving members of his family does amount to sexual abuse, and that bad apple cops did abuse the bodies of the victims, and showed little respect, if any for the farmhouse itself in the aftermath of the tragedy....

I don't believe Sheila was wearing light blue leggings when she went to Tiptree that afternoon No, she must have put them on for knocking around in at the farmhouse that evening, since I do not believe that she walked around without any knickers on, with it being that time of the month for her, without something beneath the hem of her nightie for a number of different reasons including decency and comfort...and you can take it as read that they wouldn't have belonged to a "twin set and pearls" lady like June.

[sami]

Sheila caused corresponding marks in the shape of her right hand upon her mothers throat whilst trying to kill her mother off with her bare hands...

mike could the marks have been by june putting her hand up to the throat shot

[John]

The bottom line, is that now there exists an opportunity for Jeremy's legal team to become engaged in the process of establishing 'contact' between Sheila Caffell, and her mother, during the occasion after blood had already been spilt, that Sheila had tried to throttle her mother by grabbing her by the throat, at which time blood which was present there became transferred onto the top part of Sheila's right hand...

What other reason would Sheila have been trying to throttle her mother, minutes before her mother's death?

The only blood on Sheila was Sheila's blood and Sheila never throttled anyone.  Fantasies don't count!

[John]

Sheila caused corresponding marks in the shape of her right hand upon her mothers throat whilst trying to kill her mother off with her bare hands...

A load of cobblers. 

[John]

In response to those who say that if Sheila had been stood upright at all that there would have been more blood on the front of her nightdress, my response is 'not necessarily'. I am told that when she got shot in the kitchen, that she went to ground very quickly and appeared not to be breathing. There was very little external blood flow from the solitary wound that was inflicted at 'that' time, and her body remained there on the kitchen floor for about half an hour without moving. This having been the case, there was very little if any opportunity for much of her blood to run down the front of her nightdress...

About half an hour after she was shot downstairs in the kitchen (her death having already been described as 'a suicide' before 7.45am), she is known to have recovered consciousness and got to her feet, and gone upstairs to the bedroom where she collapsed into unconsciousness again onto her parents bed.The single wound she sustained downstairs in the kitchen half an hour previously would have become 'plugged' with congealed blood within 15 minutes of her being shot in the first instance...

That must be the most ridiculous story you have ever invented.  It even surpasses your silly claim that Sheila was photgraphed with a single shot to her neck lying on a bed.

You and David Icke would get on well! 

[lebaleb]

The only blood on Sheila was Sheila's blood and Sheila never throttled anyone.  Fantasies don't count!

Psychotic episodes can last days with the person going through manic and calmer phases. It is possible that Sheila had tried to strangle June earlier in the evening and then had calmed down before becoming manic again later. You don't get blood on your hands strangling someone.

[sami]

We had a copy of the photograph on the old forum, I believe it was written on a white coloured 'cotten or maybe a paper sheet'. It would help if somebody could lay their hands upon it...

definitely

[mike tesko]

It will be possible to replicate the manner with which blood that was present on June Bambers throat became transferred onto the top part of Sheila's right hand, in addition to the photographic evidence which already exists, thus further establishing there was direct contact between Sheila and her mother in June Bambers last few moments on this earth. Everyone knows that you don't try to throttle somebody by grabbing them at the throat if you are meaning to help them because they are hurt and injured. The intent has to be to do such a person serious harm. This was what Sheila was responsible for doing to her mother. Her trying to strangle her mother is consistent with trying to harm her mother. This in turn is consistent with the original opinion of the cops, and the pathologist, Peter Venezis, that Sheila was responsible for attacking and killing her mother, and the others...

[mike tesko]

It will be possible to replicate the manner with which blood that was present on June Bambers throat became transferred onto the top part of Sheila's right hand, in addition to the photographic evidence which already exists, thus further establishing there was direct contact between Sheila and her mother in June Bambers last few moments on this earth. Everyone knows that you don't try to throttle somebody by grabbing them at the throat if you are meaning to help them because they are hurt and injured. The intent has to be to do such a person serious harm. This was what Sheila was responsible for doing to her mother. Her trying to strangle her mother is consistent with trying to harm her mother. This in turn is consistent with the original opinion of the cops, and the pathologist, Peter Venezis, that Sheila was responsible for attacking and killing her mother, and the others...

Two highly 'significant features', now spring to mind regarding the handling of the original investigation, when 'cops' and the 'pathologist', Peter Venezis, agreed that the case they were dealing with involved 'four murders'. At this stage, I am going to resist referring to Sheila's death as 'a suicide', because with 100% certainty she had not killed herself.

Firstly, the failing in establishing who's blood was present on all parts of June Bambers throat, and secondly, who's blood was present on the top part of Sheila's right hand, wrist, and right forearm?

I am confident that the defence should be able to get access to the photographic negatives of all the images which have now been disclosed to them, and that it will be possible to establish an accurate comparison of the marks in blood that are present on the top part of Sheila's right hand, and the area on June Bambers throat, where the pathologist has already confirmed that somebody had grabbed her by the throat - evidenced by a series of five linear marks that were visible there. These linear marks will hopefully have been captured in crime scene photographs, and ones taken during autopsy...

In any event, due to the fact that the pathologist agreed with the murder/suicide interpretation of the case at that time. It follows on from this, that he would have been satisfied that the hand that had grabbed June Bamber by the throat and had left those corresponding linear marks, was a hand that belonged to Sheila Caffell, and nobody else. He would have paid attention to the detail in those five linear marks on Junes throat, and looked at the marks in blood that were on the top part of Sheila's right hand, and there is good reason to suggest that he was satisfied that those marks on Junes throat, and the top part of Sheilas right hand,were subject of one action involving both parties. Venezis would have known to look for evidence upon the hands of Ralph Bamber, or Sheila Caffell, for any evidence that either of them, or none of them, had got evidence which was capable of confirming that one or other had during the incident leading up to June Bambers death, attempted to strangle her. For example, if no such evidence had been found on the hands of either dad or daughter, the pathologist would almost certainly have raised the alarm, by saying another person had been involved in June Bambers death, because the killer had tried to strangle June...

Even 30 years down the line, the pathologist, Peter Venezis should be able to confirm the approach he took upon finding these five linear marks upon June Bambers throat, that he has already referred to as a hand mark, and make fresh comparisons with the linear marks that were present upon the top part of Sheila Caffells right hand, and be able to confirm, that Sheila had tried to throttle her mother... 

[lookout]

Re. your last paragraph Mike,that blood * on Sheila's hand also showing the " half-moon " shape grab mark could well have belonged * to June as she battled to release the grip of Sheila's hand around her throat.