What makes Bamber innocent?

[Caroline]

Now, first of all, don't you or anybody else try to tell me what to say. I have seen the disgusting photographs that these so called decent cops took of Sheila on the bed, you haven't so maybe that does not entitle you to the same view or opinion as me. Yes, the images they took are indecent, and no doubt that's why 7 associated images have been removed from the disclosed material. In so far as to whom did those blue leggings belong too, I don't think they belonged to June Bamber, or had been worn by her during her death struggle. I don't think they belonged to Ralph Bamber, because he was photographed downstairs in his pyjama bottoms. I don't think any of the cops had been wearing them, so that leaves Sheila Caffell. Now, it seems to me that you are not interested in getting at the truth in this case, because it is important to know which of the two females was wearing those blue leggings at the scene. I don't think it was June Bamber because of all the blood running down her legs. On the other hand, I am firmly of the belief that because Sheila Caffells legs appear to have been so clean, that 'she' was the wearer of them. Moving on from this, it needs to be found out, when, and whom had removed those key leggings, and lastly but not least, who had washed them or rinsed them out?

You've seen them? So where are they?

[Caroline]

No, I am not. Jeremy has already complained about these matters himself, he accused cops of using the bodies of his deceased family like 'props' in a stage production'. You should be pointing your finger at the cops, not me...

Jeremy has 'alleged' a lot of things. He has nothing to lose by doing so and some people actually fall for it.

[mike tesko]

Jeremy has 'alleged' a lot of things. He has nothing to lose by doing so and some people actually fall for it.

OK, let's look at it another way then - where are the missing 7 photographic negatives of negative strip 00021 that were taken in the bedroom? Secondly, why hasn't there been a full disclosure of all the officers who partook in that training exercise 'familiars', regarding the actions they took during that hour long period inside 'that' bedroom, before the crime scene was handed over to SOCO?

[mike tesko]

OK, let's look at it another way then - where are the missing 7 photographic negatives of negative strip 00021 that were taken in the bedroom? Secondly, why hasn't there been a full disclosure of all the officers who partook in that training exercise 'familiars', regarding the actions they took during that hour long period inside 'that' bedroom, before the crime scene was handed over to SOCO?

Why has the CCRC 'refused' to let Jeremy have access to the 'crime scene video'?

Who was responsible for taking this key footage?

[mike tesko]

The bottom line, is that now there exists an opportunity for Jeremy's legal team to become engaged in the process of establishing 'contact' between Sheila Caffell, and her mother, during the occasion after blood had already been spilt, that Sheila had tried to throttle her mother by grabbing her by the throat, at which time blood which was present there became transferred onto the top part of Sheila's right hand...

What other reason would Sheila have been trying to throttle her mother, minutes before her mother's death?

[Jane]

No, I am not. Jeremy has already complained about these matters himself, he accused cops of using the bodies of his deceased family like 'props' in a stage production'. You should be pointing your finger at the cops, not me...

Sorry Mike. I had no idea that Jeremy has accused the police of sexually violating the dead body of his sister -indeed, how could he possibly have known unless one of them had bragged about it-  I had thought the worst he'd accused them of was murdering her.

[mike tesko]

Sorry Mike. I had no idea that Jeremy has accused the police of sexually violating the dead body of his sister -indeed, how could he possibly have known unless one of them had bragged about it-  I had thought the worst he'd accused them of was murdering her.

Jeremy complained when he found out that cops had been moving the bodies of his family about between 9 and 10am, before the official crime scene photographs were taken. One of the photographs which upset him, was a photograph of a banner on the roof of the farmhouse which read 'Mick was here' - a reference to Mick Clarke, one of the investigating cops...

[sami]

Jeremy complained when he found out that cops had been moving the bodies of his family about between 9 and 10am, before the official crime scene photographs were taken. One of the photographs which upset him, was a photograph of a banner on the roof of the farmhouse which read 'Mick was here' - a reference to Mick Clarke, one of the investigating cops...

what was this banner written on .and how did they get it on the roof.

[Jane]

Jeremy complained when he found out that cops had been moving the bodies of his family about between 9 and 10am, before the official crime scene photographs were taken. One of the photographs which upset him, was a photograph of a banner on the roof of the farmhouse which read 'Mick was here' - a reference to Mick Clarke, one of the investigating cops...

Please can you confirm whether he did/didn't accuse police of the sexual violation of his sister's body post mortem.

[sami]

Jeremy complained when he found out that cops had been moving the bodies of his family about between 9 and 10am, before the official crime scene photographs were taken. One of the photographs which upset him, was a photograph of a banner on the roof of the farmhouse which read 'Mick was here' - a reference to Mick Clarke, one of the investigating cops...

if thats true its not only immoral but also criminal.on the roof of the house where 5 were dead

[sami]

police do get it wrong now and then,colin stagg,barry geoge,some others but not in this case.having said that i was one of the ones who thought stagg was guilty.after the dog walker identified him and his conviction for nude sunbathing on the common.interestingly when one looks at photos of stagg and the real killer its easy to see the dog walkers mistake .eareily simmilar looking

[mike tesko]

Then we have SOCO's photographing the gun cupboard under the back stairs, where on the 10th August, 1985, three days later, David Boutflour finding a silencer in the cupboard where three days earlier (7th August 1985), no silencer had been...

Only two photographs out of 10 were disclosed, those being photographs, 7 and 8. Negatives 1,2,3,4,5, 6 and 9, an 10 were all missing from negative strip 00039...

[mike tesko]

Please can you confirm whether he did/didn't accuse police of the sexual violation of his sister's body post mortem.

He did, on the basis of information received from Essex police, and input from me regarding the semi nude photograph of Sheila on the bed. Jeremy thought the blue leggings belonged to his mum, but I don't think so, I believe Sheila had been wearing them during the attacks. What puzzles me, is who washed them or rinsed them out? Her knickers were soaking downstairs in the kitchen where the body of her father ended up. A box of 9 tampons in a box on one of the two single beds in Sheila;s bedroom. A solitary empty tampon container found on a sofa in the lounge...

The pathologist confirmed that Sheila was in the first stages of her menstrual cycle, and that she had a tampon inserted at the time of her death...

That's why I think those light blue leggings were being worn by Sheila...

[mike tesko]

Do the missing photographs, 1,2,3,4,5,6,9, and 10, from negative strip 00039 prove that there was no silencer inside the gun cupboard on the morning of the shootings?

This is an important question, since if it wasn't, and the silencer was use during the shootings, then whoever introduced 'that' silencer into 'that' gun cupboard must have had something to do with the killings...

The relatives introduced the silencer, not Jeremy...

[mike tesko]

what was this banner written on .and how did they get it on the roof.

We had a copy of the photograph on the old forum, I believe it was written on a white coloured 'cotten or maybe a paper sheet'. It would help if somebody could lay their hands upon it...