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Offline sami

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1485 on: May 24, 2016, 10:45:AM »
Morning Sami, 'no, they didn't shoot Sheila's accomplice. At just before 5am that morning cops with guns were not by that stage in position at the scene, and besides cops didn't even know that anybody had been shot by that stage, unless you know something that I don't. No, Sheila's accomplice just walked away from the farmhouse, cops did not know that the 'scruffy looking hunched shouldered man they saw on 'that' occasion, had been Sheila's accomplice, but rest assured that what I am saying is correct. I am surprised no-one has asked me more about him, his 'real identity', that is?
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1486 on: May 24, 2016, 10:47:AM »
Ah, you think there was only one set of threats?

Now, your thinking along the right lines - What about the 'Jimmy Bell' episode, when do you think that happenned?

You know the incident I am now referring too, when Jimmy Bell threw a handful of .22 ammunition at Ralph Bamber, and shouted at him, 'THE NEXT TIME THEY WILL BE FROM A GUN', or words to that effect. Are you pretending you never heard about 'that' threat?
« Last Edit: May 25, 2016, 01:05:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1487 on: May 24, 2016, 12:04:PM »
Here is PC 'David' Birds trial testimony:-
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1488 on: May 24, 2016, 12:06:PM »
your in overdrive today mike ;)

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1489 on: May 24, 2016, 12:07:PM »
It was so 'easy' for DI 'Ron' Cook, and PC 'David' Bird to deceive the court about the 'order that photographs were taken it', and 'the jury were 'taken in' by cop deceit...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1490 on: May 24, 2016, 12:08:PM »
your in overdrive today mike ;)

I am in a mood to post up some of the evidence in my possession, because no-one is pressurising me...
« Last Edit: May 25, 2016, 01:08:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1491 on: May 24, 2016, 12:23:PM »
You know the incident I am now referring too, when Jimmy Bell threw a handful of .22 ammunition at Ralph Bamber, and shouted at him, 'THE NEXT TIME THEY WILL BE FROM A GUN', or words to that effect. Are you pretending you never heard about 'that' threat?

I certanly have, it;s been argued here several times.
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1492 on: May 24, 2016, 12:31:PM »
Before I go any further, I would just like to say that 'I don't have long left'. Soon, I will not be here, at least that's what I think...

I have had this 'overwhelming feeling' that my days are numbered...

Anyway, as a result, I promise to post up as much new information as possible so that 'others' who follow on behind me, can if necessary take up 'the cause'. With this in mind, I can tell each and everyone of you, that before my end of days comes to fruition, that I would like to hand over all the material in my possession, to a member of our forum. Somebody, as it were who is not afraid to say what needs to be said. I have'nt yet decided to whom I might trust the 50,000 documents to (some of them originals). It is a huge burden trying to fathom out who might be best placed to even want the burden of all this material in their possession. End of days is looming sharply, I can feel it in my bones...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1493 on: May 24, 2016, 12:49:PM »
Sheila's accomplice just walked away from the farmhouse
Are you saying you think he left the farmhouse via a door or window that wasn't being observed at the time, and then Sheila locked the door or fastened the window after he'd left?

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1494 on: May 24, 2016, 12:53:PM »
Are you saying you think he left the farmhouse via a door or window that wasn't being observed at the time, and then Sheila locked the door or fastened the window after he'd left?
that is funny reader.john suggested he was beamed up to starship enterprise.i cant see any other way

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1495 on: May 24, 2016, 03:23:PM »
It matters little as to the order in which the photos were taken.  Only the police first responders and the culprit himself know where the rifle originally lay.  Jeremy must be raging that he cannot add his tuppence worth to this for fear of incriminating himself.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1496 on: May 24, 2016, 03:29:PM »
It matters little as to the order in which the photos were taken.  Only the police first responders and the culprit himself know where the rifle originally lay.  Jeremy must be raging that he cannot add his tuppence worth to this for fear of incriminating himself.
good point john :)

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1497 on: May 24, 2016, 03:39:PM »
It matters little as to the order in which the photos were taken.  Only the police first responders and the culprit himself know where the rifle originally lay.  Jeremy must be raging that he cannot add his tuppence worth to this for fear of incriminating himself.




On the contrary John,JB is in the " best place " in case he incriminates them------would have been the more correct version.

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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1498 on: May 24, 2016, 04:27:PM »
Are you saying you think he left the farmhouse via a door or window that wasn't being observed at the time, and then Sheila locked the door or fastened the window after he'd left?

Yes, I  understand from what I have been able to find out that he left via a door on the opposite side of the farmhouse to where PC Myall was stationed about 10 minutes before the arrival of PS Adams and his squad of firearm officers who arrived at the scene at 5am prompt...
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Re: What makes Bamber innocent?
« Reply #1499 on: May 24, 2016, 05:21:PM »
It matters little as to the order in which the photos were taken.  Only the police first responders and the culprit himself know where the rifle originally lay.  Jeremy must be raging that he cannot add his tuppence worth to this for fear of incriminating himself.

On the contrary, it does matter where the rifle was, at all times, especially after Sheila placed it at one of the upstairs window, where it remained without anyone touching it until 9.13am, when during a training exercise, otherwise known as ' familiars', the rifle was brought from the window upstairs to Sheila's body, which only had one gunshot wound to the neck by that stage. Cops had moved Sheila's body from the bed to the floor, the rifle was placed on her body and it discharged the second shot which killed her. The rifle was then put near the main bedroom window until after PC Bird photographed it there (as per photograph 23 of negative strip 0012). After PC Bird took 'that' photograph (23) the rifle was brought from the window by cops and positioned onto Sheila's body, and by around 10.20am, PC Bird took 8 photographs of the rifle on Sheila's body (25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32, on negative strip 0034). Cops staged Sheila's death scene, then photographed the scene, and used the photographs dishonestly to convict Jeremy of the murders. That can't be right, it can't be legal, cops didn't explain to the court which tried the matter that it was they who had put the rifle from the upstairs window onto Sheila's body, and then took the photographs. The court was 'deceived' into accepting that Sheila's body had been left well alone after its first discovery by armed cops who entered the farmhouse soon after 7.30am, and not even the police surgeon, Dr Craig had been allowed to touch her body at 8.44am. Cops told the court that it was DI 'Ron' Cook who had first handled the rifle from Sheila's body at 11.10am, at which stage he said that he had handed the rifle to PI Montgomery (firearm officer) to check it, and make it safe. Cook said, 'he' had then placed the rifle at the bedroom window where PC Bird had photographed it (23, negative strip 0012), but we now know Cook lied, and deceived the court about that, and we also know that PC Bird aided him in deceiving the court about the time he had taken photograph 23  (negative strip 0012), stating that he had photographed the rifle at the bedroom window (23, negative strip 0012) after he had photographed Sheila's body in possession of the rifle, as per photographs, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32 (negative strip 0034). We have now found out that PC Bird came clean about the order with which he had photographed the rifle at the main bedroom window, and on Sheila's body, by making a new witness statement to the COLP investigators on the 31st January, 2001, when he had to tell the truth or be damned. At that stage, the truth relating to the fact that cops staged Sheila's death scene on the bedroom floor became common knowledge for the very first time (fifthteen and a half years later), that Jeremy Bamber 'had not afterall' placed the anshuzt rifle onto his sisters body with her on the bedroom floor, in order to fool cops into thinking that his sister had taken her own life. It wasn't Jeremy after all that tried to trick cops, it was all part and parcel of what the cops themselves had done, so it beggars belief how anyone can say that Jeremy almost got away with the perfect murders, by staging his sisters death on the bedroom floor so that police would accept that she had killed the others, then killed herself. He hadn't staged his sisters body at all, how could he have with the rifle that supposedly killed the others and then herself having been offered up at one of the first floor windows at 7.15am, where it remained until 9.13am. Cops had five dead victims inside the farmhouse by 8.10am, and setting the serious discrepancy to one side as to whether by that (8.10am) time, Sheila's body was downstairs, or upstairs, the fact still remains that the only rifle found upstairs by cops was the one at an upstairs window, how could Sheila have been dead by 'that' (8.10am) stage? The simple truth is that she couldn't possibly have been dead by 'that' (8.10am) time. How had she died? The rifle which had been at an upstairs bedroom window could not by that stage have also been with Sheila's body, either downstairs, or upstairs. She hadn't shot herself, and she hadn't killed herself by 'that' time, and Jeremy certainly could not have shot her either downstairs in the kitchen, or upstairs on the bed, or the floor and staged her body to fake her suicide, what with? Let's ignore the fact that Sheila was downstairs in the kitchen (7.37am, onward until just after 8.10am), or upstairs on the bed from around 8.30am, until just before 9.13am. Let's go with Sheila's body always having been on the bedroom floor with two shotgun wounds to her neck. How could Jeremy have tried to fake her death on the bedroom floor with the rifle that fired 'both' (ha, ha, ha) shots leaning against a window in another room?  Get a life, or get a grip of yourselves, it didn't happen, and it couldn't have happened like the cops said it had happened. They made it up, and what they did has now been fully exposed. But the big question remains. Ask yourselves why cops did what they did, and rather than 'fess up to what they had done, and why, they chose to frame Jeremy Bamber as the killer. They tampered with Sheila's body, moved the rifle from the window onto the body, tampered with the order with which key photographs were taken, tampered with the ballistics, tampered with the hand swabs, tampered with the silencer, etc, etc, etc. The whole god damn case that cops built in order to frame Jeremy as the killer is rotten to the core...
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